Matt wrote:
> I think the 300GB Raptor's are a little out of my price range at
> nearly £200.
>
> I'm thinking of getting the 150GB Raptor now and getting a slower
> 750GB Caviar in a few months time for the data I will have built up by
> then. The only downside for me is the noise on these Raptor drives. I
> found a review earlier on the Raptor 150GB and someone recorded the
> noise it made. I've put the link below:
>
> http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/...0-20-27dba.mp3
>
> Would you say this is the level of sound you hear? If so I don't think
> I could stand the noise it makes whilst seeking.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Matt
That sounds like either a milling machine or the old slow-dying Quantum
drive in my wurk puter 5 years ago.
"JR Weiss" <jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Matt" <mattb95@hotmail.com> wrote...
>> You mentioned a RAID 0 failure earlier. Are these as common as a typical
>> mechanical failure in a hard drive, or should I be braced for some
>> downtime?
>
> From reports I've read, logical failures from the controllers are more
> likely than mechanical failures. With RAID 0 it is a particular problem
> because you have NO backup! In RAID 1 you can rebuild from the good HD,
> and in RAID 5 you can rebuild from the remaining HDs.
>
> The failure I had was a transient one (embedded Promise controller in an
> older MoBo), and I was able to recover both HDs by reformatting them (they
> are the same Raptor 74s I still run). After running fine for 6 months, I
> didn't expect a failure, either,but... I did not trust that controller in
> RAID 0 any more, though I had no failures after that after switching to
> RAID 1.
>
> Bottom line is that your chances of failure are significantly more than
> double with RAID 0. The stats are still very small, but the results if
> you get caught are bad...
>
JR........I have found a direct correlation between <1>the amount of time
from your last backup and <2>the time for a failure of a RAID 0 array. The
longer <1> is, the shorter <2> is..............:-)
"Matt" <mattb95@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>Hey guys. I'm interested in getting a hard drive aimed towards the
>performance end of the consumer market. I'm keen to get a WD hard
>drive as I have had good experiences in the past.
>
>To that end, a WD Raptor 10,000rpm 150GB drive for £115 sounds like a
>good idea. However, I would like more capacity if possible. Would I
>get the same performance out of two 500GB 7,200rpm WD Caviar drives in
>a RAID setup for less money?
>
>My motherboard is the Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Matt
Widen your horizons... There are more drive manufacturers than just WD...
Micro Mart this week did a round up of four 1Tb drives
WD Green Power 1Tb... £128... 6/10
Samsung HD103UJ F1 Spinpoint... £93... 9/10
Maxtor DiamondMax 22... £97... 8/10
Hitachi DeskStar 7K1000... £102... 8/10
The Samsung F1 Spinpoint drives (500Gb and 1Tb) are the current leaders in
almost every review I have seen in the last few months... You can have a 1Tb
Spinpoint for under £100 and its just as fast as a Raptor, especially with
32Mb of cache!
As for RAID... According to the GigaByte website, your mobo doesn't have
onboard RAIOD controller... unless you want to spend as much on a hardware
RAID card as you do on the drives themselves, forget it. You won't see any
noticable speed improvement.
My advice: Buy a 1Tb Spinpoint and have done with it!
Rarius
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> The Samsung F1 Spinpoint drives (500Gb and 1Tb) are the current
> leaders in almost every review I have seen in the last few
> months... You can have a 1Tb Spinpoint for under œ100 and its just
> as fast as a Raptor, especially with 32Mb of cache!
And the cow jumped over the moon.
>
>
> Subject: Re: WD Raptor or WD Caviar in RAID setup?
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> The Samsung F1 Spinpoint drives (500Gb and 1Tb) are the current
> leaders in almost every review I have seen in the last few
> months... You can have a 1Tb Spinpoint for under £100 and its just
> as fast as a Raptor, especially with 32Mb of cache!
Load times are the most noticeable hard drive performance index.
> "Rarius" <rarius@rarius.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The Samsung F1 Spinpoint drives (500Gb and 1Tb) are the current
>> leaders in almost every review I have seen in the last few
>> months... You can have a 1Tb Spinpoint for under £100 and its just
>> as fast as a Raptor, especially with 32Mb of cache!
>
> Load times are the most noticeable hard drive performance index.
>
> http://techreport.com/articles.x/14200/5
>
> Yours is near the bottom of the list in every test.
>
> The Raptors are near the top.
Hmm... Me thinks you misrepresent the data.
Doom load time...
Raptor WD 35.66
Raptor X 36.03
Spinpoint F1 36.22
Far Cry load time...
Raptor WD 33.59
Raptor X 35.40
Spinpoint F1 35.84
Yes... the Raptors are slightly faster (1% - 5%)... You just won't notice
that! The Spinpoint is over 8x more storage!!!!
Rarius
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>> "Rarius" <rarius@rarius.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> The Samsung F1 Spinpoint drives (500Gb and 1Tb) are the current
>>> leaders in almost every review I have seen in the last few
>>> months... You can have a 1Tb Spinpoint for under £100 and its just
>>> as fast as a Raptor, especially with 32Mb of cache!
>>
>> Load times are the most noticeable hard drive performance index.
>>
>> http://techreport.com/articles.x/14200/5
>>
>> Yours is near the bottom of the list in every test.
>>
>> The Raptors are near the top.
>
>
> Hmm... Me thinks you misrepresent the data.
You left out the worst results.
You get what you pay for. The Samsung F1 Spinpoint hard drives are
frequently DOA (mentioned 26 times in the first 100 reviews) and carry
an unspecified or short warranty.
> You left out the worst results.
>
> You get what you pay for. The Samsung F1 Spinpoint hard drives are
> frequently DOA (mentioned 26 times in the first 100 reviews) and carry
> an unspecified or short warranty.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152102
>
> Excellent 59 reviews 56%
> Good 10 reviews 9%
> Average 7 reviews 6%
> Poor 11 reviews 10%
> Very poor 21 reviews 19%
>
> Western Digital Raptor.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011
>
> Excellent 398 reviews 77%
> Good 72 reviews 14%
> Average 27 reviews 5%
> Poor 7 reviews 1%
> Very poor 15 reviews 3%
I have had IBM/Hitachi, WD and Maxtor all DOA in the past... I never had a
Samsung DOA... don't doubt your figures, but every brand has bad batches,
just I personally have never had a bad Samsung. We use dozens of them at
work, all with no problem.
I have looked back through recent editions of PCFormat, MicroMart and
CustomPC magazines and all of them recommend the Samsung over anything else
at the moment.
Custom PC May 2008
The Spinpoint F1 is in the top 3 on almost every test, beating the
Raptors in every loadtime test. To quote... "Not surprisingly, this gave
the fastest sustained read speed of 96MB/s."
Custom PC Aug 2008
"The 1TB Samsung F1is equally as fast [as the VelociRaptor], costs half
the price and stores three times as much data"... Note the VelociRaptor is
faster than the RaptorX too!
"That said, in everyday use - image editing and loading games - the
VelociRaptor is no faster than the Samsung"
I never said that the WD Raptors were rubbish.. I only offered the Samsung
as an alternative worth looking at.
Rarius
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