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Old 06-12-2007, 09:15 PM
Mathew.McGill@gmail.com
 
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Default Want To Move My Old Drive To New Computer

I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
prepared.

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Old 06-13-2007, 12:07 AM
Bill
 
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:15:21 -0700, Mathew.McGill@gmail.com wrote:

>I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
>computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
>major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
>through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
>let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
>prepared.


Here it is, it't rather lengthy. I've used this info to move several
hard drives with Windows 98SE and 2000. Haven't tried it with XP, but
it should work.

HTH
Bill
______

So, you've decided to move your drive with Windows 2000 (or XP) to a
new system, or upgraded your motherboard, and you now get the dreaded
blue screen of death before the operating system gets to the desktop.
All you get is a STOP 0x0000007B error (INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE).
What now???? Well, here's what you need to do...
Well, the first thing you need to do is to get the system working
again, so, put the system back in the original working configuration.
If you changed the motherboard, change it back to the original. If you
moved the drive to a new system, place it in the old one.
Now, for people that understand what they are doing, and how to do it,
here are the "quick" steps:

1 - Extract 'Atapi.sys,' 'Intelide.sys,' 'Pciide.sys,' and
'Pciidex.sys' from '%SystemRoot%\Driver Cache\i386\Driver.cab' (or
SPx.CAB if it exists, where x is the latest service pack)
2 - Copy those four files to the following location:
'%SystemRoot%\System32\Drivers' (do not replace files already there)
3 - Merge the registry file found below (copy the text to notepad and
save as a .reg file), or better, download it here
4 - THAT'S IT! Move it to the new system (or change the motherboard),
and your system should start up.

STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS FOR THOSE THAT NEED IT:

1 - Click START, go to RUN, type in "CMD" (without quotes), hit ENTER
2 - At the command prompt, type in:
"CD %SystemRoot%\Driver Cache\i386" (without quotes) hit ENTER
"dir/w" (without quotes) hit ENTER
If you are running Windows 2000, check for SPx.CAB (where x is the
highest number), in the following steps, use the SPx.CAB instead of
DRIVER.CAB
(If you are asked to OVEBWRITE any file, choose NO)
"expand driver.cab -f:atapi.sys %SystemRoot%\System32\Drivers"
(without quotes) hit ENTER
"expand driver.cab -f:intelide.sys %SystemRoot%\System32\Drivers"
(without quotes) hit ENTER
"expand driver.cab -fciide.sys %SystemRoot%\System32\Drivers"
(without quotes) hit ENTER
"expand driver.cab -fciidex.sys %SystemRoot%\System32\Drivers"
(without quotes) hit ENTER
"exit" (without quotes) hit ENTER
3 - You should now be back at the Desktop, you need to download the
registry file from HERE, save it to someplace you will remember,
preferably your desktop. After it is downloaded, DOUBLE-CLICK on it,
you will be asked if you wish to MERGE the contents with you registry,
CHOOSE YES.
4 - THAT'S IT! Your system is prepared to be moved to another
system/have the motherboard changed.


HERE IS THE REGISTRY FILE (COPY IT INTO NOTEPAD, AND SAVE IT AS A .REG
FILE.

********* START COPY AFTER THIS LINE *************
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\primary_ide_channel]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\secondary_ide_channel]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\*pnp0600]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\*azt0502]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\gendisk]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="disk"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#cc_0101]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_0e11&dev_ae33]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1039&dev_0601]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1039&dev_5513]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-1!CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1042&dev_1000]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_105a&dev_4d33]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1095&dev_0640]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1095&dev_0646]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1097&dev_0038]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_10ad&dev_0001]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_10ad&dev_0150]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_10b9&dev_5215]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_10b9&dev_5219]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_10b9&dev_5229]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_1106&dev_0571]
"Service"="pciide"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_1222]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_1230]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2411]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2421]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_7010]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_7111]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_7199]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="intelide"
;Add driver for Atapi (requires atapi.sys in drivers directory)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\atapi]
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"Group"="SCSI miniport"
"Start"=dword:00000000
"Tag"=dword:00000019
"Type"=dword:00000001
"DisplayName"="Standard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller"
"ImagePath"=hex(2):53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6 d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,44,00,\
52,00,49,00,56,00,45,00,52,00,53,00,5c,00,61,00,74 ,00,61,00,70,00,69,00,2e,\
00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00
;Add driver for intelide (requires intelide.sys in drivers directory)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\IntelIde]
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"Group"="System Bus Extender"
"Start"=dword:00000000
"Tag"=dword:00000004
"Type"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6 d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,44,00,\
52,00,49,00,56,00,45,00,52,00,53,00,5c,00,69,00,6e ,00,74,00,65,00,6c,00,69,\
00,64,00,65,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00

;Add driver for pciide (requires pciide.sys and pciidex.sys in drivers
directory)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\PCIIde]
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"Group"="System Bus Extender"
"Start"=dword:00000000
"Tag"=dword:00000003
"Type"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6 d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,44,00,\
52,00,49,00,56,00,45,00,52,00,53,00,5c,00,70,00,63 ,00,69,00,69,00,64,00,65,\
00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00


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Old 06-13-2007, 01:03 PM
TVeblen
 
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Default Re: Want To Move My Old Drive To New Computer


<Mathew.McGill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181679321.108047.212160@g37g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
> computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
> major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
> through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
> let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
> prepared.
>

I've always been a big fan of clean installing the OS. I believe it is
faster in the end, all things considered. Particularly if you keep notes to
remember all the settings and configurations you've chosen. OS's get
cluttered with lots of old and unneeded stuff over the years and even the
religious use of any good registry cleaners don't get all of it.
You will want to back up all of your personal data regardless of which
method you use. Anything can happen and almost certainly will if you don't
back up your data (according to Murphy).
This all assumes you own the OS and have the disk. If you are trying to move
the OEM OS that came with the old computer to the new one your success will
be dependant on the brand and what they have done to prevent such a crime
against MS.
Good Luck.


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Old 06-13-2007, 05:17 PM
Mathew.McGill@gmail.com
 
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On Jun 13, 8:03 am, "TVeblen" <formerl...@110.net> wrote:
> <Mathew.McG...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1181679321.108047.212160@g37g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...>I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
> > computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
> > major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
> > through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
> > let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
> > prepared.

>
> I've always been a big fan of clean installing the OS. I believe it is
> faster in the end, all things considered. Particularly if you keep notes to
> remember all the settings and configurations you've chosen. OS's get
> cluttered with lots of old and unneeded stuff over the years and even the
> religious use of any good registry cleaners don't get all of it.
> You will want to back up all of your personal data regardless of which
> method you use. Anything can happen and almost certainly will if you don't
> back up your data (according to Murphy).
> This all assumes you own the OS and have the disk. If you are trying to move
> the OEM OS that came with the old computer to the new one your success will
> be dependant on the brand and what they have done to prevent such a crime
> against MS.
> Good Luck.


Some time ago, I have decided to actually purchase (own) all my
software. Furthermore, deny those who want to copy them. I just
thought it would be a matter of time before Microsoft would stop
looking the other way.

My present computer is an old 350MHz AMD-K6 though I'm running XP,
office 2003, Visio 2003 and Norton. As you might suspect everthing
just kind'a clunks along... especially with Norton installed. It's
just that it took me so darn long to load all that stuff in, and just
as long for all the updates to catch-up.

Well, thanks Bill for your response. I've posted this question
elsewhere and will go for what I think I could handle in my comfort
zone.

Thanks fellas

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Old 06-13-2007, 05:34 PM
Mathew.McGill@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: Want To Move My Old Drive To New Computer

I forgot to mention that some years ago, I transferred a friends drive
to another computer and was able to resolve the driver issues...
Thruthfully, the motherboards were not that different. However, what
we descovered is that if any Office application found itself on
another computer, it will erase itself. In otherwords, it will only
run once and upon closing your document, that application program will
not be found. I don't believe it's a full uninstall because all the
document icons remained the same. The operating system at the time was
98.

Will this happen to me again?

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Old 06-13-2007, 10:51 PM
Robin Bignall
 
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:03:53 -0500, "TVeblen" <formerlyBP@110.net>
wrote:

>
><Mathew.McGill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1181679321.108047.212160@g37g2000prf.googleg roups.com...
>>I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
>> computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
>> major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
>> through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
>> let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
>> prepared.
>>

>I've always been a big fan of clean installing the OS. I believe it is
>faster in the end, all things considered. Particularly if you keep notes to
>remember all the settings and configurations you've chosen. OS's get
>cluttered with lots of old and unneeded stuff over the years and even the
>religious use of any good registry cleaners don't get all of it.


There seem to be a lot of registry cleaners around, both free and fee.
What is the group's view of these, and are there any that can be
especially recommended?
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:28 AM
TVeblen
 
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<Mathew.McGill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181751448.040074.88040@d30g2000prg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Jun 13, 8:03 am, "TVeblen" <formerl...@110.net> wrote:
>> <Mathew.McG...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181679321.108047.212160@g37g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...>I want to
>> move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
>> > computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
>> > major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
>> > through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
>> > let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
>> > prepared.

>>
>> I've always been a big fan of clean installing the OS. I believe it is
>> faster in the end, all things considered. Particularly if you keep notes
>> to
>> remember all the settings and configurations you've chosen. OS's get
>> cluttered with lots of old and unneeded stuff over the years and even the
>> religious use of any good registry cleaners don't get all of it.
>> You will want to back up all of your personal data regardless of which
>> method you use. Anything can happen and almost certainly will if you
>> don't
>> back up your data (according to Murphy).
>> This all assumes you own the OS and have the disk. If you are trying to
>> move
>> the OEM OS that came with the old computer to the new one your success
>> will
>> be dependant on the brand and what they have done to prevent such a crime
>> against MS.
>> Good Luck.

>
> Some time ago, I have decided to actually purchase (own) all my
> software. Furthermore, deny those who want to copy them. I just
> thought it would be a matter of time before Microsoft would stop
> looking the other way.
>
> My present computer is an old 350MHz AMD-K6 though I'm running XP,
> office 2003, Visio 2003 and Norton. As you might suspect everthing
> just kind'a clunks along... especially with Norton installed. It's
> just that it took me so darn long to load all that stuff in, and just
> as long for all the updates to catch-up.
>

Yep. Takes me about 8 to 12 hours to load everything back and reset all the
software configurations. But if I ever figured out how much time I spent
fixing problems after trying to takle the shortcut - the last one was a MB
replacement (unplanned) and a "Repair Install of XP - I bet it would've
added up to a lot more than 12 hours! Never figured it out because when I am
aggravated and dealing OS and software glitches I ain't in any mood to clock
myself.


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Old 06-14-2007, 01:28 AM
TVeblen
 
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<Mathew.McGill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181752453.099120.87760@i13g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>I forgot to mention that some years ago, I transferred a friends drive
> to another computer and was able to resolve the driver issues...
> Thruthfully, the motherboards were not that different. However, what
> we descovered is that if any Office application found itself on
> another computer, it will erase itself. In otherwords, it will only
> run once and upon closing your document, that application program will
> not be found. I don't believe it's a full uninstall because all the
> document icons remained the same. The operating system at the time was
> 98.
>
> Will this happen to me again?
>

It's hard to say. Whatever scheme MS uses to protect itself against piracy
is linked to the computer ID string, which is generated by the hardware
found on the computer (and hard drive) the software was loaded on. What
happens when it finds itself loading on a "new" computer? Please let us know
if you go that route.


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Old 06-14-2007, 01:31 AM
TVeblen
 
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"Robin Bignall" <docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:03:53 -0500, "TVeblen" <formerlyBP@110.net>
wrote:

>
><Mathew.McGill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1181679321.108047.212160@g37g2000prf.googleg roups.com...
>>I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
>> computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
>> major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide me
>> through the process of installing this drive into a new machine. To
>> let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
>> prepared.
>>

>I've always been a big fan of clean installing the OS. I believe it is
>faster in the end, all things considered. Particularly if you keep notes to
>remember all the settings and configurations you've chosen. OS's get
>cluttered with lots of old and unneeded stuff over the years and even the
>religious use of any good registry cleaners don't get all of it.


There seem to be a lot of registry cleaners around, both free and fee.
What is the group's view of these, and are there any that can be
especially recommended?

I've gotten into the habit of cleaning the registry manually. I recently
uninstalled Nero 6 to upgrade and even after using Nero's own cleaner I
found many leftover entries in the Reg, mostly Classes, but there just the
same.


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Old 06-14-2007, 10:45 AM
Jim
 
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Mathew.McGill@gmail.com wrote:
> I want to move a hard drive from my old 350 MHz AMD K6 to a Newer
> computer Intel machine. I know that if I just move it, there will be
> major problems with motherboard hardware drivers. Can someone guide
> me through the process of installing this drive into a new machine.
> To let you know I don't have the new machine yet, I just want to be
> prepared.
>

Get a new drive for the newer machine. You'll both save a ton of time
and have more options regarding partitions, OS choices, etc.

Next obtain an external USB enclosure for that old drive. All your data
will be available when needed.


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