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Old 07-24-2007, 02:58 AM
Terry
 
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Default UPS plugged into a surge suppressor

I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection. I would
think it would double the protection.

Thoughts?

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Old 07-24-2007, 03:14 AM
Ed Cregger
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor


"Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1185242327.081741.260750@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection. I would
> think it would double the protection.
>
> Thoughts?
>



I would love to hear the basis of your friend's theory.

I can see no reason for there to be any disadvantages to running the two in
series. If someone else does, I would like to hear their hypothesis too.

Ed Cregger


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Old 07-24-2007, 03:22 AM
John Doe
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor

Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:

> I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.


You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
suppressor into a UPS.











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Old 07-24-2007, 01:56 PM
MARK BENDER/JOHN DOE LIVES AT 509 FROST TX 78201
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor


John Doe wrote:
> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:
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> > I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.

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> You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
> suppressor into a UPS.
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MARK BENDER AKA JOHN DOE = CONVICTED SAN ANTONIO PEDOFILE AND USENET
SPAMMER/TROLL.

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Old 07-24-2007, 04:48 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor


"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
news:xndpi.21679$bz7.1485@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et...
> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.

>
> You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
> suppressor into a UPS.
>

Why? I have been running two six outlet surge protector/power strips
daisy chained from my APC 1500 UPS for several years with any issue at
all. I have limited battery backup outlets for the two systems running
off it, so I use them for low power items like chargers, power
convertors etc. I make sure I am not exceeding the limits of the outlet
or UPS itself. It just frees up a few outlets for the major power needs
like the main PSUs/printers/scanners and router for the two systems. I
certainly would not plug in my 850w PSU and 500w PSU into them, but for
small items they work just fine. I live in an area with a lot of strong
storms and have a lot of outages and have never had a problem at all.
You just need to use some common sense.

Ed


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Old 07-24-2007, 07:29 PM
jaster
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:48:41 -0500, Ed Medlin thoughfully wrote:

> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
> news:xndpi.21679$bz7.1485@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et...
>> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.

>>
>> You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
>> suppressor into a UPS.
>>

> Why? I have been running two six outlet surge protector/power strips
> daisy chained from my APC 1500 UPS for several years with any issue at
> all. I have limited battery backup outlets for the two systems running
> off it, so I use them for low power items like chargers, power
> convertors etc. I make sure I am not exceeding the limits of the outlet
> or UPS itself. It just frees up a few outlets for the major power needs
> like the main PSUs/printers/scanners and router for the two systems. I
> certainly would not plug in my 850w PSU and 500w PSU into them, but for
> small items they work just fine. I live in an area with a lot of strong
> storms and have a lot of outages and have never had a problem at all.
> You just need to use some common sense.
>
> Ed


I have to replace my UPS system Belkin or Cyber about every 2 yrs because
the batteries die. How often do you have to replace the battery?
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Ian D
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor


"Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1185242327.081741.260750@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection. I would
> think it would double the protection.
>
> Thoughts?
>


According to APC documentation, it is permissable to
plug a surge suppressor into a UPS, but a UPS should
not be plugged into a surge suppressor. This refers
to outlet bar surge supressors with built in filtering.
The reason for this is that the surge suppressor filter
could affect the voltage sensing circuitry in the UPS.



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Old 07-24-2007, 09:57 PM
John Doe
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor

"Ed Medlin" <ed@edmedlin.com> wrote:

>
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
> news:xndpi.21679$bz7.1485@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et...
>> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.

>>
>> You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
>> suppressor into a UPS.
>>

> Why?


Why what? I made two statements there. You need to be more specific.

> I have been running two six outlet surge protector/power strips
> daisy chained from my APC 1500 UPS for several years with any issue
> at all.


If you have no issues, maybe you should consider the possibility you
are over-killing the problem. If you have no issues, why not just use
power distribution strips instead of surge suppressors?

> I live in an area with a lot of strong storms and have a lot of
> outages and have never had a problem at all. You just need to use
> some common sense.


How does common sense tell you that putting a surge suppressor after a
UPS will help protect the UPS? How does putting a UPS in front of a
surge suppressor do anything for the surge suppressor?

If you want more information about why you should not plug a surge
suppressor into a UPS, you can do some research.

But since I made the assertion, here is an example search with lots of
pertinent results.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?n=100...2Into+a+UPS%22










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> Ed
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:03 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor


"jaster" <jaster@home.net> wrote in message
news:Mxrpi.40677$Um6.12689@newssvr12.news.prodigy. net...
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:48:41 -0500, Ed Medlin thoughfully wrote:
>
>> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:xndpi.21679$bz7.1485@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et...
>>> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.
>>>
>>> You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
>>> suppressor into a UPS.
>>>

>> Why? I have been running two six outlet surge protector/power strips
>> daisy chained from my APC 1500 UPS for several years with any issue
>> at
>> all. I have limited battery backup outlets for the two systems
>> running
>> off it, so I use them for low power items like chargers, power
>> convertors etc. I make sure I am not exceeding the limits of the
>> outlet
>> or UPS itself. It just frees up a few outlets for the major power
>> needs
>> like the main PSUs/printers/scanners and router for the two systems.
>> I
>> certainly would not plug in my 850w PSU and 500w PSU into them, but
>> for
>> small items they work just fine. I live in an area with a lot of
>> strong
>> storms and have a lot of outages and have never had a problem at all.
>> You just need to use some common sense.
>>
>> Ed

>
> I have to replace my UPS system Belkin or Cyber about every 2 yrs
> because
> the batteries die. How often do you have to replace the battery?

Same battery that came with it 3yrs ago. I expect I will have to change
it sometime this year.

Ed


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Old 07-25-2007, 03:10 PM
MARK BENDER/JOHN DOE LIVES AT 509 FROST TX 78201
 
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Default Re: UPS plugged into a surge suppressor


John Doe wrote:
> "Ed Medlin" <ed@edmedlin.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:xndpi.21679$bz7.1485@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et...
> >> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I had a friend that said this would reduce the protection.
> >>
> >> You can plug a UPS into a surge suppressor, but don't plug a surge
> >> suppressor into a UPS.
> >>

> > Why?

>
> Why what? I made two statements there. You need to be more specific.
>
> > I have been running two six outlet surge protector/power strips
> > daisy chained from my APC 1500 UPS for several years with any issue
> > at all.

>
> If you have no issues, maybe you should consider the possibility you
> are over-killing the problem. If you have no issues, why not just use
> power distribution strips instead of surge suppressors?
>
> > I live in an area with a lot of strong storms and have a lot of
> > outages and have never had a problem at all. You just need to use
> > some common sense.

>
> How does common sense tell you that putting a surge suppressor after a
> UPS will help protect the UPS? How does putting a UPS in front of a
> surge suppressor do anything for the surge suppressor?
>
> If you want more information about why you should not plug a surge
> suppressor into a UPS, you can do some research.
>
> But since I made the assertion, here is an example search with lots of
> pertinent results.
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?n=100...2Into+a+UPS%22
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> >
> > Ed
> >
> >



MARK BENDER = JOHN DOE.

FOR VERIFICATION OF HIS ADDRESS/IDENTITY, CROSS-REFERENCE THE POST IN
THE LINK BELOW WITH A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR "MARK BENDER SAN ANTONIO:

http://tinyurl.com/2aaeyl

A PEDOFILE LIVING AT 509 FROST TX 78201 (210) 734-3107.

WHAT A SICK SACK OF ****ING ****.

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