Terry wrote:
> I am having a hard time replacing my mobo.
> I think this one will do but I hope everything will match.
>
> I want to replace my TH7ii with a Intel D865PESO Intel 865PE Socket
> 478 uATX MB w/Snd & LAN
>
> Will I be able to use my current powersupply, memory, AGP graphics
> card and cpu? I don't use RAID anymore.
>
> I am tole that a uATX will fit in a standard case, but I would like
> conformation on that too.
>
Power supply - yes. If you are using the same processor chip, then the
+12V drain will be the same on the new board. The 3.3V will use maybe
14A (the 3.3V might be used to power the RAM and the chipset). Your old
board will be slightly different in its powering method, and loading on
3.3V and 5V, but this is probably not an issue.
The TH7ii has 20 pin main power, 2x2 ATX12V power for the processor, and
room for the 1x6 Aux power connector. You won't need the Aux on the Intel
board.
Memory on the TH7ii is RAMBUS RIMMs. Memory on the Intel board is unbuffered
DDR. You'll need different memory. Memory modules up to 1GB each can probably
be used.
For AGP, the TH7ii runs AGP 1X/2X/4X. The latter requires an AGP VIO of
1.5V. The new motherboard would support up to AGP 8X. One thing the new
motherboard cannot do, is run with an AGP card that is 3.3V only (those
cards are pretty old). For more info on mixing and matching, you can read
this article. If you'd said what your AGP card was, I could have looked
it up in here. It is not hard to figure out, using this article.
So memory looks like the first issue. More details about your current
AGP card and which exact CPU you are using, would help narrow down the
rest of it.
Full sized ATX is 12" x 9.6". MicroATX is 9.6" x 9.6". The two formats
have mounting holes in common. Note that at least some current brands of
motherboards, cheat a bit on dimensions. The height dimension (the first
of the two numbers) will likely be maintained. The second number, the
width, is variable. This annoys some people, and with good reason. For
example, if you buy a narrow motherboard, one which is 7.4" wide instead
of the full 9.6", the mounting holes are missing along the edge. That means
that edge of the motherboard is unsupported. If you have to push on the
motherboard, in that area, you could easily bend it, which is not really
that good for the board. So, ideally, when checking the dimensions of the
board, you'd like it to be close enough to the standard dimensions, so that
the standoffs underneath the motherboard, leave it well supported.
On Jul 24, 8:37 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> Terry wrote:
> > I am having a hard time replacing my mobo.
> > I think this one will do but I hope everything will match.
>
> > I want to replace my TH7ii with a Intel D865PESO Intel 865PE Socket
> > 478 uATX MB w/Snd & LAN
>
> > Will I be able to use my current powersupply, memory, AGP graphics
> > card and cpu? I don't use RAID anymore.
>
> > I am tole that a uATX will fit in a standard case, but I would like
> > conformation on that too.
>
> Power supply - yes. If you are using the same processor chip, then the
> +12V drain will be the same on the new board. The 3.3V will use maybe
> 14A (the 3.3V might be used to power the RAM and the chipset). Your old
> board will be slightly different in its powering method, and loading on
> 3.3V and 5V, but this is probably not an issue.
>
> The TH7ii has 20 pin main power, 2x2 ATX12V power for the processor, and
> room for the 1x6 Aux power connector. You won't need the Aux on the Intel
> board.
>
> Memory on the TH7ii is RAMBUS RIMMs. Memory on the Intel board is unbuffered
> DDR. You'll need different memory. Memory modules up to 1GB each can probably
> be used.
>
> For AGP, the TH7ii runs AGP 1X/2X/4X. The latter requires an AGP VIO of
> 1.5V. The new motherboard would support up to AGP 8X. One thing the new
> motherboard cannot do, is run with an AGP card that is 3.3V only (those
> cards are pretty old). For more info on mixing and matching, you can read
> this article. If you'd said what your AGP card was, I could have looked
> it up in here. It is not hard to figure out, using this article.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> The TH7ii CPU socket is S478. So is the D865PESO. There is a list here
> of what processors are supported.
>
> http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/so/so_proc.htm
>
> So memory looks like the first issue. More details about your current
> AGP card and which exact CPU you are using, would help narrow down the
> rest of it.
>
> Full sized ATX is 12" x 9.6". MicroATX is 9.6" x 9.6". The two formats
> have mounting holes in common. Note that at least some current brands of
> motherboards, cheat a bit on dimensions. The height dimension (the first
> of the two numbers) will likely be maintained. The second number, the
> width, is variable. This annoys some people, and with good reason. For
> example, if you buy a narrow motherboard, one which is 7.4" wide instead
> of the full 9.6", the mounting holes are missing along the edge. That means
> that edge of the motherboard is unsupported. If you have to push on the
> motherboard, in that area, you could easily bend it, which is not really
> that good for the board. So, ideally, when checking the dimensions of the
> board, you'd like it to be close enough to the standard dimensions, so that
> the standoffs underneath the motherboard, leave it well supported.
>
> Paul
Lots of useful information. I had done my homework and thought I had
made the best choice. I am glad I asked because I missed it on
memory.
I will keep Googling. My video card is a 6600GT. It has been
upgraded once since I bought the mobo.
You don't happen to know of another board with the same features that
will accept my memory do you?
Terry wrote:
> On Jul 24, 8:37 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> Terry wrote:
>>> I am having a hard time replacing my mobo.
>>> I think this one will do but I hope everything will match.
>>> I want to replace my TH7ii with a Intel D865PESO Intel 865PE Socket
>>> 478 uATX MB w/Snd & LAN
>>> Will I be able to use my current powersupply, memory, AGP graphics
>>> card and cpu? I don't use RAID anymore.
>>> I am tole that a uATX will fit in a standard case, but I would like
>>> conformation on that too.
>> Power supply - yes. If you are using the same processor chip, then the
>> +12V drain will be the same on the new board. The 3.3V will use maybe
>> 14A (the 3.3V might be used to power the RAM and the chipset). Your old
>> board will be slightly different in its powering method, and loading on
>> 3.3V and 5V, but this is probably not an issue.
>>
>> The TH7ii has 20 pin main power, 2x2 ATX12V power for the processor, and
>> room for the 1x6 Aux power connector. You won't need the Aux on the Intel
>> board.
>>
>> Memory on the TH7ii is RAMBUS RIMMs. Memory on the Intel board is unbuffered
>> DDR. You'll need different memory. Memory modules up to 1GB each can probably
>> be used.
>>
>> For AGP, the TH7ii runs AGP 1X/2X/4X. The latter requires an AGP VIO of
>> 1.5V. The new motherboard would support up to AGP 8X. One thing the new
>> motherboard cannot do, is run with an AGP card that is 3.3V only (those
>> cards are pretty old). For more info on mixing and matching, you can read
>> this article. If you'd said what your AGP card was, I could have looked
>> it up in here. It is not hard to figure out, using this article.
>>
>> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>>
>> The TH7ii CPU socket is S478. So is the D865PESO. There is a list here
>> of what processors are supported.
>>
>> http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/so/so_proc.htm
>>
>> So memory looks like the first issue. More details about your current
>> AGP card and which exact CPU you are using, would help narrow down the
>> rest of it.
>>
>> Full sized ATX is 12" x 9.6". MicroATX is 9.6" x 9.6". The two formats
>> have mounting holes in common. Note that at least some current brands of
>> motherboards, cheat a bit on dimensions. The height dimension (the first
>> of the two numbers) will likely be maintained. The second number, the
>> width, is variable. This annoys some people, and with good reason. For
>> example, if you buy a narrow motherboard, one which is 7.4" wide instead
>> of the full 9.6", the mounting holes are missing along the edge. That means
>> that edge of the motherboard is unsupported. If you have to push on the
>> motherboard, in that area, you could easily bend it, which is not really
>> that good for the board. So, ideally, when checking the dimensions of the
>> board, you'd like it to be close enough to the standard dimensions, so that
>> the standoffs underneath the motherboard, leave it well supported.
>>
>> Paul
>
> Lots of useful information. I had done my homework and thought I had
> made the best choice. I am glad I asked because I missed it on
> memory.
>
> I will keep Googling. My video card is a 6600GT. It has been
> upgraded once since I bought the mobo.
>
> You don't happen to know of another board with the same features that
> will accept my memory do you?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
To reuse your memory, you'd need a motherboard from the same era. The 865PE
boards are from a later generation. And if you go much further than that, the
socket changes to LGA775, and you can't reuse the processor.
I think your Intel board is not a bad compromise. Buying replacement DDR
should not be that expensive. I don't know how much of a market remains
for the RIMMs, but if they were the larger capacity RIMMs, you might
get more than enough from the sale, to buy new memory.
$55 gets you a 2x512MB kit, giving dual channel operation and a total of
1GB of memory. This is the amount of memory I use on my current system.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:57:47 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
>Terry wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 8:37 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>> Terry wrote:
>>>> I am having a hard time replacing my mobo.
>>>> I think this one will do but I hope everything will match.
>>>> I want to replace my TH7ii with a Intel D865PESO Intel 865PE Socket
>>>> 478 uATX MB w/Snd & LAN
>>>> Will I be able to use my current powersupply, memory, AGP graphics
>>>> card and cpu? I don't use RAID anymore.
>>>> I am tole that a uATX will fit in a standard case, but I would like
>>>> conformation on that too.
>>> Power supply - yes. If you are using the same processor chip, then the
>>> +12V drain will be the same on the new board. The 3.3V will use maybe
>>> 14A (the 3.3V might be used to power the RAM and the chipset). Your old
>>> board will be slightly different in its powering method, and loading on
>>> 3.3V and 5V, but this is probably not an issue.
>>>
>>> The TH7ii has 20 pin main power, 2x2 ATX12V power for the processor, and
>>> room for the 1x6 Aux power connector. You won't need the Aux on the Intel
>>> board.
>>>
>>> Memory on the TH7ii is RAMBUS RIMMs. Memory on the Intel board is unbuffered
>>> DDR. You'll need different memory. Memory modules up to 1GB each can probably
>>> be used.
>>>
>>> For AGP, the TH7ii runs AGP 1X/2X/4X. The latter requires an AGP VIO of
>>> 1.5V. The new motherboard would support up to AGP 8X. One thing the new
>>> motherboard cannot do, is run with an AGP card that is 3.3V only (those
>>> cards are pretty old). For more info on mixing and matching, you can read
>>> this article. If you'd said what your AGP card was, I could have looked
>>> it up in here. It is not hard to figure out, using this article.
>>>
>>> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>>>
>>> The TH7ii CPU socket is S478. So is the D865PESO. There is a list here
>>> of what processors are supported.
>>>
>>> http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/so/so_proc.htm
>>>
>>> So memory looks like the first issue. More details about your current
>>> AGP card and which exact CPU you are using, would help narrow down the
>>> rest of it.
>>>
>>> Full sized ATX is 12" x 9.6". MicroATX is 9.6" x 9.6". The two formats
>>> have mounting holes in common. Note that at least some current brands of
>>> motherboards, cheat a bit on dimensions. The height dimension (the first
>>> of the two numbers) will likely be maintained. The second number, the
>>> width, is variable. This annoys some people, and with good reason. For
>>> example, if you buy a narrow motherboard, one which is 7.4" wide instead
>>> of the full 9.6", the mounting holes are missing along the edge. That means
>>> that edge of the motherboard is unsupported. If you have to push on the
>>> motherboard, in that area, you could easily bend it, which is not really
>>> that good for the board. So, ideally, when checking the dimensions of the
>>> board, you'd like it to be close enough to the standard dimensions, so that
>>> the standoffs underneath the motherboard, leave it well supported.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> Lots of useful information. I had done my homework and thought I had
>> made the best choice. I am glad I asked because I missed it on
>> memory.
>>
>> I will keep Googling. My video card is a 6600GT. It has been
>> upgraded once since I bought the mobo.
>>
>> You don't happen to know of another board with the same features that
>> will accept my memory do you?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>
>To reuse your memory, you'd need a motherboard from the same era. The 865PE
>boards are from a later generation. And if you go much further than that, the
>socket changes to LGA775, and you can't reuse the processor.
>
>I think your Intel board is not a bad compromise. Buying replacement DDR
>should not be that expensive. I don't know how much of a market remains
>for the RIMMs, but if they were the larger capacity RIMMs, you might
>get more than enough from the sale, to buy new memory.
>
>$55 gets you a 2x512MB kit, giving dual channel operation and a total of
>1GB of memory. This is the amount of memory I use on my current system.
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440
>
> Paul
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