"GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
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> In article <6Sr8k.2707$LG4.411@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>, "Ed Medlin" <ed@
> edmedlin.com> wrote:
>>
>>"GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
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>>> In article <sq2264pupb3gle57ckde1so3ocqf0no17f@4ax.com>, John B Smith
>>> <crassono_spam@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT), DanoWeir@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>tower is supposed to go. Unfortunately, this cubby gets absolutely
>>>>>zero airflow, so despite the fans (one on power supply, one for case
>>>>>itself and the fan on the heatsink), the computer is overheating and
>>>>>often shutting off erratically.
>>>>>
>>>>"One for the case itself" is probably not enough air flow. (I've got
>>>>one in front and one in back) No one yet has mentioning modifying the
>>>>'computer cubby'. I'd consider making a nice big hole in it and adding
>>>>a fan to it. If the cubby is so well protected, why not take the side
>>>>panels off the pc? I'm running right now with the side panel off my
>>>>pc, my P4 chip runs a couple degrees C cooler that way (and still
>>>>right around 50 degrees). I figure that temp is more important than
>>>>mother board temerature. I do have an aftermarket fan and heat sink on
>>>>my CPU. You didn't mention the type of CPU her machine is running or
>>>>the temperatures it's encountering.
>>>>
>>> I have yet to have a P4 "any" model run hotter than 35c under full load
>>> even
>>> when gaming Unreal 2004 for hours on end. 50c is getting way up there.
>>>
>>I haven't seen many later P4s able to idle at 35c much less max out under
>>stress there. That was one of the problems with the P4. I have a P4 EM64T
>>I630 that will barely get to 35c with a very good liquid cooling
>>system...and that is idle temp. With liquid, it will max out much lower
>>than
>>air at 50c or so, but with air it will go up to 65+ but stays very stable.
>>I
>>think you must be reading the wrong temps there. 35c sounds like a MB temp
>>rather than the CPU temp on any P4.
>>
>>
>>
>>Ed
>>>
>>
>>
> No, its the cpu temp as read by multiple softwares.
>
> I use Cooler Master Hyper48 coolers in the two systems in question.
>
In article <A4N8k.9860$xZ.4826@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>, "Ed Medlin" <ed@ edmedlin.com> wrote:
>
>"GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <6Sr8k.2707$LG4.411@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>, "Ed Medlin" <ed@
>> edmedlin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
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>>>> In article <sq2264pupb3gle57ckde1so3ocqf0no17f@4ax.com>, John B Smith
>>>> <crassono_spam@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT), DanoWeir@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>tower is supposed to go. Unfortunately, this cubby gets absolutely
>>>>>>zero airflow, so despite the fans (one on power supply, one for case
>>>>>>itself and the fan on the heatsink), the computer is overheating and
>>>>>>often shutting off erratically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>"One for the case itself" is probably not enough air flow. (I've got
>>>>>one in front and one in back) No one yet has mentioning modifying the
>>>>>'computer cubby'. I'd consider making a nice big hole in it and adding
>>>>>a fan to it. If the cubby is so well protected, why not take the side
>>>>>panels off the pc? I'm running right now with the side panel off my
>>>>>pc, my P4 chip runs a couple degrees C cooler that way (and still
>>>>>right around 50 degrees). I figure that temp is more important than
>>>>>mother board temerature. I do have an aftermarket fan and heat sink on
>>>>>my CPU. You didn't mention the type of CPU her machine is running or
>>>>>the temperatures it's encountering.
>>>>>
>>>> I have yet to have a P4 "any" model run hotter than 35c under full load
>>>> even
>>>> when gaming Unreal 2004 for hours on end. 50c is getting way up there.
>>>>
>>>I haven't seen many later P4s able to idle at 35c much less max out under
>>>stress there. That was one of the problems with the P4. I have a P4 EM64T
>>>I630 that will barely get to 35c with a very good liquid cooling
>>>system...and that is idle temp. With liquid, it will max out much lower
>>>than
>>>air at 50c or so, but with air it will go up to 65+ but stays very stable.
>>>I
>>>think you must be reading the wrong temps there. 35c sounds like a MB temp
>>>rather than the CPU temp on any P4.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No, its the cpu temp as read by multiple softwares.
>>
>> I use Cooler Master Hyper48 coolers in the two systems in question.
>>
>
>You must have a VERY cold room...........:-)
>
>
>Ed
>
>
While it is in a basement, it hovers around 75f in the room .
>>You must have a VERY cold room...........:-)
>>
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
> While it is in a basement, it hovers around 75f in the room .
>
That would only be a gain of 12-13c over room temps. I currently have a
Q6600 OC'd to 3.2Ghz and the temps are the same as at the stock 2.4Ghz.
About 30c idle and maxes out at 45-50c with a very good Swiftech liquid
cooled system in a P180 case. My room temps are a bit cooler, around 70f or
so. Just the heat of normal components in a box will raise the case temps in
an extremely well ventilated case 6-8degs C and workload on the CPU, even at
idle would bring that up to 30c or more. Your temps seem more indicative of
MB or even ambient case temps than CPU temps, especially with the hotter
running P4s. Over at alt.comp.hardware.overclocking we have had a lot of
discussions over the years on temps and getting them down. 35c as a maximum
temp under stress is just not going to happen with an air-cooled P4 unless
you are pumping AC into the case.......:-). I have found it hard to get a
good temperature monitoring program that correctly reads CPU temps,
especially the C2Ds and Quads. CoreTemp is the closest, but I find an
8-10deg difference between it and the bios readings on my Stiker Extreme
NV680i SLI board. I run two EVGA Superclocked 8800GTXs too, so good
ventilation and cooling was a top consideration from the start of this
build.
In article <Yy59k.19894$co7.8626@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>, "Ed Medlin" <ed@ edmedlin.com> wrote:
>>>You must have a VERY cold room...........:-)
>>>
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>> While it is in a basement, it hovers around 75f in the room .
>>
>That would only be a gain of 12-13c over room temps. I currently have a
>Q6600 OC'd to 3.2Ghz and the temps are the same as at the stock 2.4Ghz.
>About 30c idle and maxes out at 45-50c with a very good Swiftech liquid
>cooled system in a P180 case. My room temps are a bit cooler, around 70f or
>so. Just the heat of normal components in a box will raise the case temps in
>an extremely well ventilated case 6-8degs C and workload on the CPU, even at
>idle would bring that up to 30c or more. Your temps seem more indicative of
>MB or even ambient case temps than CPU temps, especially with the hotter
>running P4s. Over at alt.comp.hardware.overclocking we have had a lot of
>discussions over the years on temps and getting them down. 35c as a maximum
>temp under stress is just not going to happen with an air-cooled P4 unless
>you are pumping AC into the case.......:-). I have found it hard to get a
>good temperature monitoring program that correctly reads CPU temps,
>especially the C2Ds and Quads. CoreTemp is the closest, but I find an
>8-10deg difference between it and the bios readings on my Stiker Extreme
>NV680i SLI board. I run two EVGA Superclocked 8800GTXs too, so good
>ventilation and cooling was a top consideration from the start of this
>build.
>
>
>Ed
>
>
I guess that i suppose UT2004 isnt really stressing it much. I have a C2D 6600
stock speed, and i did some more tests and yes it does go up around 40c or so
but not much higher than that. It IS the cpu temp i am reading via the coretemp
program located here http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp .
Anyways, keeping the case free of dust, and good airflow is the key. I have an
ANTEC 900 case and so airflow is excellent.
Yeah, well, that's just the start ... "fix my computer, but you
are not allowed to think for yourself". Wise up. The computer
is not what needs "fixing".
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