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Old 01-02-2008, 01:13 PM
DEGGY77
 
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happy new year 2 all

got a new hard drive but do not know how to transfer the contents of
out/exp {addresses and all my emails] on to my new drive
please make it simple as i am 79 yrs old and quite a novice
many thanks to all helpers
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:50 PM
Dave
 
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"DEGGY77" <deggy77@tadaust.org.au> wrote in message
news:3289d208-78ad-465b-b205-79706de6cabd@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> happy new year 2 all
>
> got a new hard drive but do not know how to transfer the contents of
> out/exp {addresses and all my emails] on to my new drive
> please make it simple as i am 79 yrs old and quite a novice
> many thanks to all helpers


Haven't tried it, but outlook express backup (freeware, from
www.download.com) looks like it should do what you want. You'll just have
to move the backup files to CDR/W or something, so you can transfer them to
the new system. -Dave

http://www.download.com/Outlook-Expr...html?tag=lst-4

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Old 01-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Paul
 
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DEGGY77 wrote:
> happy new year 2 all
>
> got a new hard drive but do not know how to transfer the contents of
> out/exp {addresses and all my emails] on to my new drive
> please make it simple as i am 79 yrs old and quite a novice
> many thanks to all helpers


Perhaps you can help us a bit.

Currently, you have a boot drive in your computer, with Outlook Express
installed on it.

Is the new drive, just for additional data ?

Or is your new drive intended as a replacement for the existing C: drive ?

If the new drive is a complete replacement for the old drive, the
hard drive manufacturer's web site, may have a utility for copying
the contents of the old drive, to the new drive. That would
copy everything over. For a Seagate drive, you'd go to seagate.com
and look in their downloads.

For example, see the section "Data Migration" here.

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...00dd04090aRCRD

Descriptions of possible uses for Discwizard are listed here:

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...D&locale=en-US

So it helps to state exactly what your upgrade involves, to get
instructions. Even the tiny details ("my old drive is IDE, my
new drive is a WD800 SATA, my motherboard is P4P800, I'm changing the
old drive because it is bad") helps.

Paul
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:50 PM
John Weiss
 
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"DEGGY77" <deggy77@tadaust.org.au> wrote...

> got a new hard drive but do not know how to transfer the contents of
> out/exp {addresses and all my emails] on to my new drive
> please make it simple as i am 79 yrs old and quite a novice
> many thanks to all helpers


All you need is the ability to copy a bunch of files from 2 folders on the old
drive to the same folder on the new drive. If you don't have the old drive
installed in the same computer, copy via a USB thumb drive or CD/DVD:

The address book is in a folder under your user name:
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book
There are 2 files named [username].wab and [username].wab~
The second file is a backup of the first.
Copy these files to the same folder on the new hard drive

The Outlook Express files are in another folder under your user name:
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Identities\[long
random number sequence]
That folder will have a bunch of *.dbx files.
Copy the files to the same folder in the new drive.

Start Outlook Express after that, and it should see them.


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Old 01-02-2008, 08:06 PM
nospam@sbcglobal.invalid.net
 
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"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155NOSPAM@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message news:Sd2dnc0tybnPcebanZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> "DEGGY77" <deggy77@tadaust.org.au> wrote...
>
> > got a new hard drive but do not know how to transfer the contents of
> > out/exp {addresses and all my emails] on to my new drive
> > please make it simple as i am 79 yrs old and quite a novice
> > many thanks to all helpers

>
> All you need is the ability to copy a bunch of files from 2 folders on the old
> drive to the same folder on the new drive. If you don't have the old drive
> installed in the same computer, copy via a USB thumb drive or CD/DVD:
>
> The address book is in a folder under your user name:
> C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book
> There are 2 files named [username].wab and [username].wab~
> The second file is a backup of the first.
> Copy these files to the same folder on the new hard drive
>
> The Outlook Express files are in another folder under your user name:
> C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Identities\[long
> random number sequence]
> That folder will have a bunch of *.dbx files.
> Copy the files to the same folder in the new drive.
>
> Start Outlook Express after that, and it should see them.


Deggy, if you reinstall your operating system, you're going to have
a new user ID, so there will be no such thing as "the same folder
in the new drive".

Follow previous advice given in this thread, NOT John's advice.



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Old 01-02-2008, 08:31 PM
John Weiss
 
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<nospam@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote...
>>
>> All you need is the ability to copy a bunch of files from 2 folders on the
>> old
>> drive to the same folder on the new drive. If you don't have the old drive
>> installed in the same computer, copy via a USB thumb drive or CD/DVD:

.. . .

> Deggy, if you reinstall your operating system, you're going to have
> a new user ID, so there will be no such thing as "the same folder
> in the new drive".


Not necessarily true.

If he uses "Deggy" as his user name on the old HD and still uses "Deggy" on the
new HD with the re-installed OS, the folder tree will be identical for the
Address Book, and either the \Address book folder or the .wab files inside it
can be copied intact. Though the random hex characters in the folder directly
under the "Identities" folder will differ in the new installation, the Outlook
Express folder tree beneath it will be identical, and the files from the old HD
can be copied intact.

If he uses a name other than "Deggy" for his user name in the new installation,
the subfolders can still be copied intact, under the new user name.


> Follow previous advice given in this thread, NOT John's advice.


There was a lot of differing advice given, not all of it simple, and some of it
needlessly complex.

Also, I don't know why he should prefer to follow advice given by an anonymous
poster, over that given by a frequent poster who is properly identified...


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Old 01-03-2008, 02:47 AM
nospam@sbcglobal.invalid.net
 
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"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155NOSPAM@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message news:la2dnSh6vJAvaebanZ2dnUVZ_ryqnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> <nospam@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote...
> >>
> >> All you need is the ability to copy a bunch of files from 2 folders on the
> >> old
> >> drive to the same folder on the new drive. If you don't have the old drive
> >> installed in the same computer, copy via a USB thumb drive or CD/DVD:

> . . .
>
> > Deggy, if you reinstall your operating system, you're going to have
> > a new user ID, so there will be no such thing as "the same folder
> > in the new drive".

>
> Not necessarily true.


Yes, necessarily true. Try it yourself before you giving horrible
and misinformed advice to other people.

> If he uses "Deggy" as his user name on the old HD and still uses "Deggy" on the
> new HD with the re-installed OS, the folder tree will be identical for the
> Address Book, and either the \Address book folder or the .wab files inside it
> can be copied intact. Though the random hex characters in the folder directly
> under the "Identities" folder will differ in the new installation, the Outlook
> Express folder tree beneath it will be identical, and the files from the old HD
> can be copied intact.
>
> If he uses a name other than "Deggy" for his user name in the new installation,
> the subfolders can still be copied intact, under the new user name.


Absolute nonsense. Outlook Express maintains its mail folders
under the hex ID of the user currently logged on. This ID will
be different on a new operating system reinstall, even if the
ascii username is the same.

> > Follow previous advice given in this thread, NOT John's advice.

>
> There was a lot of differing advice given, not all of it simple, and some of it
> needlessly complex.
>
> Also, I don't know why he should prefer to follow advice given by an anonymous
> poster, over that given by a frequent poster who is properly identified...


Because you don't know what the hell you're talking about,
and following your advice will result in the loss of all the
original poster's email. That's why.


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Old 01-03-2008, 03:08 AM
John Weiss
 
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<nospam@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote...>
>> If he uses "Deggy" as his user name on the old HD and still uses "Deggy" on
>> the
>> new HD with the re-installed OS, the folder tree will be identical for the
>> Address Book, and either the \Address book folder or the .wab files inside it
>> can be copied intact. Though the random hex characters in the folder
>> directly
>> under the "Identities" folder will differ in the new installation, the
>> Outlook
>> Express folder tree beneath it will be identical, and the files from the old
>> HD
>> can be copied intact.
>>
>> If he uses a name other than "Deggy" for his user name in the new
>> installation,
>> the subfolders can still be copied intact, under the new user name.

>
> Absolute nonsense. Outlook Express maintains its mail folders
> under the hex ID of the user currently logged on. This ID will
> be different on a new operating system reinstall, even if the
> ascii username is the same.


No nonsense at all! I did NOT suggest that the "random hex characters" folder
be copied -- only that the files "BENEATH IT" be copied. I also pointed out
clearly that the "hex ID" is a subfolder of the \Identities folder which is a
subfolder of the [username] folder. The Outlook Express files that exist within
that "random hex characters" folder CAN be directly copied to the analogous
folder in the new machine.

It doesn't matter a whit if "Deggy" changes his username on the new HD! He can
still copy the old OE folders and files to the appropriate folder under the
\Identities folder under his new username.


>> Also, I don't know why he should prefer to follow advice given by an
>> anonymous
>> poster, over that given by a frequent poster who is properly identified...

>
> Because you don't know what the hell you're talking about,
> and following your advice will result in the loss of all the
> original poster's email. That's why.


Nope.

First, copying any files will NOT result in the loss of ANYTHING! If the first
attempt fails, he can always try again!

Second, the method I described will work just fine. I've done it many times in
the past. It is a simple and effective alternative to using the OE Import
function if the original message store is not connected to the new computer.
Though using the Import may be "easier" for some, more computer novices will
more readily understand "copy and paste" than using an unfamiliar Import
routine.


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