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Old 07-24-2008, 12:27 AM
brian@yahoo.com
 
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Default My first build

In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says ... and I quote.

This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28

"You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before using Serial ATA hard disk drives."

Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service pack before using the hard disk
since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?

What am i missing here?

thanks



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Old 07-24-2008, 12:35 AM
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brian@yahoo.com wrote:
> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says ... and I quote.
>
> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>
> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>
> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service pack before using the hard disk
> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>
> What am i missing here?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
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There is a point in the install when you hit F6 to install controller
drivers from a floppy..

Eric
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:52 AM
peter
 
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Default Re: My first build

XP with SP1 has the capability to see your SATA drives and installs the SATA
Controller drivers automatically..
whether you need the F6 method should say in the manual...on most of the
newer Mobo its not required with XP SP1 and above
Then you need to load your MOBO drivers which will place the correct SATA
drivers in place
XP with no SP will not see your HD,,,and you definitely need the F6 method
to install the SATA controller drivers before
XP is capable of being installed.The F6 method requires you to have the
Drivers on a floppy because that's the only place XP will look for them

got it??

peter
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"brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
> ... and I quote.
>
> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>
> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>
> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service
> pack before using the hard disk
> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>
> What am i missing here?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:08 AM
brian@yahoo.com
 
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"brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
>> ... and I quote.
>>
>> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>>
>> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
>> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>>
>> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service
>> pack before using the hard disk
>> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>>
>> What am i missing here?
>>
>> thanks
>>

>XP with SP1 has the capability to see your SATA drives and installs the SATA
>Controller drivers automatically..


>whether you need the F6 method should say in the manual...on most of the
>newer Mobo its not required with XP SP1 and above


The manual says nothing about F6 method

>Then you need to load your MOBO drivers which will place the correct SATA
>drivers in place
>XP with no SP will not see your HD,,,and you definitely need the F6 method
>to install the SATA controller drivers before
>XP is capable of being installed.The F6 method requires you to have the
>Drivers on a floppy because that's the only place XP will look for them


>got it??
>peter


No, I don't have it.

At this point in the manual no mention has been made of installing any drivers. Even if there was, the manual is
still saying you cant use a SATA disk until XP SP1 or later is installed.

I must be missing something fun****etal here. I'm thinking ok, I have my PC assembled and am ready to stick
in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files to my brand new never used SATA drive.
But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.








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Old 07-24-2008, 04:09 AM
peter
 
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If you use XP SP1..it will determine that's a SATA drive and load the
drivers from the XP SP1 CD...then install itself.

If you use XP with no SP...there are no drivers on the CD...and you will
need to supply the drivers by means of F6

What the manual is saying is if you use an SP1 disk you can and will install
XP SP1
You cannot use Win 95...WIN 98...WIN 98SE....WIN ME....

Have you tried it yet?? do have a XPSP1 CD???

if not do you know how to make a slipstreamed one??

google is your friend


peter

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"brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4887f248$0$29796$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
> "brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
>>> ... and I quote.
>>>
>>> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>>>
>>> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
>>> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>>>
>>> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a
>>> service
>>> pack before using the hard disk
>>> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>>>
>>> What am i missing here?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>

>>XP with SP1 has the capability to see your SATA drives and installs the
>>SATA
>>Controller drivers automatically..

>
>>whether you need the F6 method should say in the manual...on most of the
>>newer Mobo its not required with XP SP1 and above

>
> The manual says nothing about F6 method
>
>>Then you need to load your MOBO drivers which will place the correct SATA
>>drivers in place
>>XP with no SP will not see your HD,,,and you definitely need the F6 method
>>to install the SATA controller drivers before
>>XP is capable of being installed.The F6 method requires you to have the
>>Drivers on a floppy because that's the only place XP will look for them

>
>>got it??
>>peter

>
> No, I don't have it.
>
> At this point in the manual no mention has been made of installing any
> drivers. Even if there was, the manual is
> still saying you cant use a SATA disk until XP SP1 or later is installed.
>
> I must be missing something fun****etal here. I'm thinking ok, I have my
> PC assembled and am ready to stick
> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files
> to my brand new never used SATA drive.
> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is
> installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:48 AM
BigJim
 
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Default Re: My first build

the bios will recognize the sata dvd drive and the hard drive. The sp1 will
let you address
the drives bigger than 132 gig.


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Old 07-24-2008, 09:02 AM
Rarius
 
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"brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
> ... and I quote.
>
> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>
> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>
> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service
> pack before using the hard disk
> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>
> What am i missing here?
>
> thanks


The XP installation CD you buy (have bought) will probably have SP1 already
built in (may have SP2!). So the installer will see the SATA drives and
install OK.

Rarius


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Old 07-24-2008, 09:45 AM
david
 
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Default Re: My first build

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:08:56 +0000, brian@yahoo.com rearranged some
electrons to say:

> "brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it
>>> says ... and I quote.
>>>
>>> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>>>
>>> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version
>>> before using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>>>
>>> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a
>>> service pack before using the hard disk
>>> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>>>
>>> What am i missing here?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>

>>XP with SP1 has the capability to see your SATA drives and installs the
>>SATA Controller drivers automatically..

>
>>whether you need the F6 method should say in the manual...on most of the
>>newer Mobo its not required with XP SP1 and above

>
> The manual says nothing about F6 method
>
>>Then you need to load your MOBO drivers which will place the correct
>>SATA drivers in place
>>XP with no SP will not see your HD,,,and you definitely need the F6
>>method to install the SATA controller drivers before XP is capable of
>>being installed.The F6 method requires you to have the Drivers on a
>>floppy because that's the only place XP will look for them

>
>>got it??
>>peter

>
> No, I don't have it.
>
> At this point in the manual no mention has been made of installing any
> drivers. Even if there was, the manual is still saying you cant use a
> SATA disk until XP SP1 or later is installed.
>
> I must be missing something fun****etal here. I'm thinking ok, I have my
> PC assembled and am ready to stick in the disk to install XP or Vista
> and thats going to start copying files to my brand new never used SATA
> drive. But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or
> later is installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.


You are missing something fundamental. If you have XP SP1 or greater,
all you need to do is put the CD in and load it. XP SP1 or SP2 has the
correct drivers on the CD and will install them for you.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:59 AM
Conor
 
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In article <4887f248$0$29796$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, says...

> I must be missing something fun****etal here.


A brain? LOOK AT THE ****ING INSTALLATION CD.

> I'm thinking ok, I have my PC assembled and am ready to stick
> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files to my brand new never used SATA drive.
> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>


Unless your installation CD is SIX YEARS OLD, it'll be at least SP1.
When a new Service Pack is released, all the installation CDs sold from
that point on have the new service pack integrated.

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Old 07-24-2008, 10:32 AM
TVeblen
 
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"brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4887f248$0$29796$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
> "brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
>>> ... and I quote.
>>>
>>> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>>>
>>> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
>>> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>>>
>>> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a
>>> service
>>> pack before using the hard disk
>>> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>>>
>>> What am i missing here?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>

>>XP with SP1 has the capability to see your SATA drives and installs the
>>SATA
>>Controller drivers automatically..

>
>>whether you need the F6 method should say in the manual...on most of the
>>newer Mobo its not required with XP SP1 and above

>
> The manual says nothing about F6 method
>
>>Then you need to load your MOBO drivers which will place the correct SATA
>>drivers in place
>>XP with no SP will not see your HD,,,and you definitely need the F6 method
>>to install the SATA controller drivers before
>>XP is capable of being installed.The F6 method requires you to have the
>>Drivers on a floppy because that's the only place XP will look for them

>
>>got it??
>>peter

>
> No, I don't have it.
>
> At this point in the manual no mention has been made of installing any
> drivers. Even if there was, the manual is
> still saying you cant use a SATA disk until XP SP1 or later is installed.
>
> I must be missing something fun****etal here. I'm thinking ok, I have my
> PC assembled and am ready to stick
> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files
> to my brand new never used SATA drive.
> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is
> installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>

Motherboard manuals are notoriously sparse on details. They all assume you
do this all the time, they are not written with home-builders in mind. So
the people here are filling in the blanks for you. The advice is sound. The
insults are unsound.


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