My first build

>I must be missing something fun****etal here.

>A brain? LOOK AT THE ****ING INSTALLATION CD.

I never wrote the manual so **** you.

>> I'm thinking ok, I have my PC assembled and am ready to stick
>> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files to my brand new never used SATA drive.
>> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>>

>Unless your installation CD is SIX YEARS OLD, it'll be at least SP1.
>When a new Service Pack is released, all the installation CDs sold from
>that point on have the new service pack integrated.

You think? What about Linux installs?

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brian@yahoo.com wrote:
> "brian" <brian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4887cc54$0$18537$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
>>> ... and I quote.
>>>
>>> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>>>
>>> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
>>> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>>>
>>> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service
>>> pack before using the hard disk
>>> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>>>
>>> What am i missing here?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>> XP with SP1 has the capability to see your SATA drives and installs the SATA
>> Controller drivers automatically..
>
>> whether you need the F6 method should say in the manual...on most of the
>> newer Mobo its not required with XP SP1 and above
>
> The manual says nothing about F6 method
>
>> Then you need to load your MOBO drivers which will place the correct SATA
>> drivers in place
>> XP with no SP will not see your HD,,,and you definitely need the F6 method
>> to install the SATA controller drivers before
>> XP is capable of being installed.The F6 method requires you to have the
>> Drivers on a floppy because that's the only place XP will look for them
>
>> got it??
>> peter
>
> No, I don't have it.
>
> At this point in the manual no mention has been made of installing any drivers. Even if there was, the manual is
> still saying you cant use a SATA disk until XP SP1 or later is installed.
>
> I must be missing something fun****etal here. I'm thinking ok, I have my PC assembled and am ready to stick
> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files to my brand new never used SATA drive.
> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>
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The manual is poorly written. Just install XP SP1.
Eric

>If you use XP SP1..it will determine that's a SATA drive and load the
>drivers from the XP SP1 CD...then install itself.

>If you use XP with no SP...there are no drivers on the CD...and you will
>need to supply the drivers by means of F6

>What the manual is saying is if you use an SP1 disk you can and will install
>XP SP1 You cannot use Win 95...WIN 98...WIN 98SE....WIN ME....

>Have you tried it yet?? do have a XPSP1 CD???

>if not do you know how to make a slipstreamed one??

>google is your friend


>peter

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>> I must be missing something fun****etal here. I'm thinking ok, I have my
>> PC assembled and am ready to stick
>> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files
>> to my brand new never used SATA drive.
>> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is
>> installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>>
>Motherboard manuals are notoriously sparse on details. They all assume you
>do this all the time, they are not written with home-builders in mind. So
>the people here are filling in the blanks for you. The advice is sound. The
>insults are unsound.

Thanks for your reply.


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>> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says
>> ... and I quote.
>>
>> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>>
>> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before
>> using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>>
>> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service
>> pack before using the hard disk
>> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>>
>> What am i missing here?
>>
>> thanks

>The XP installation CD you buy (have bought) will probably have SP1 already
>built in (may have SP2!). So the installer will see the SATA drives and
>install OK.

>Rarius

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brian@yahoo.com wrote:
> In reading the manual, YES I AM READING THE MANUAL,oddly enuogh it says ... and I quote.
>
> This is an AsusP5E-VM HDMI motherboard. Page 2-28
>
> "You must install the Windows XP Service PACK 1 or later version before using Serial ATA hard disk drives."
>
> Now, call me anal, but just how can you install any OS let alone a service pack before using the hard disk
> since the hard disk must be used to install the OS?
>
> What am i missing here?
>
> thanks
>
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Install on an EIDE PATA first before you can add a SATA according to that.



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brian@yahoo.com wrote:
> >I must be missing something fun****etal here.
>
>> A brain? LOOK AT THE ****ING INSTALLATION CD.
>
> I never wrote the manual so **** you.
>
>>> I'm thinking ok, I have my PC assembled and am ready to stick
>>> in the disk to install XP or Vista and thats going to start copying files to my brand new never used SATA drive.
>>> But, oops Asus says I can't use that SATA drive until XP SP1 or later is installed. Seems to me like a catch 22.
>>>
>
>> Unless your installation CD is SIX YEARS OLD, it'll be at least SP1.
>> When a new Service Pack is released, all the installation CDs sold from
>> that point on have the new service pack integrated.
>
> You think? What about Linux installs?
>
Linux never has these half baked Microsoft problems.

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In article <48886874$0$14345$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, says...
>
Perhaps if you bothered looking at the installation CD, you'd not need
to ask such a stupid question.


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In article <488864b0$0$18574$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, brian
(brian@yahoo.com) says...
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> You think? What about Linux installs?
>
>

No problems installing OpenSuse 10.3 or 11.0 on that motherboard.
You would be better off asking Linux questions in the appropriate
Linux distribution group though.

Bill