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  #11  
Old 06-20-2007, 05:40 PM
DevilsPGD
 
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Default Re: good PC case

In message <_%9ei.2424$vi5.1434@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net> "Ed Medlin"
<ed@edmedlin.com> wrote:

>
>"SteveH" <steve.houghREMOVE@MEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:lz5ei.8401$p8.1789@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
>> news:389h73hpg9vt773g58k2ef2adrdg3ooppi@4ax.com...
>>> In message <1182308720.739305.104030@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups .com> zach
>>> <zachvek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>anyone have any good PC cases?? thanks for the help
>>>
>>> Antec P180, if you're serious about quiet and cool systems rather then
>>> flashy lights and transparent sidewalls.

>>
>> Indeed - got 2 of 'em here.
>>
>> SteveH

>I also like them. I have the Antec P180 modded for liquid cooling by
>Swiftech (labeled as Quiet Power) and it is great. It is about as silent as
>it gets.


With all due respect, why bother with a P180 if you're going to liquid
cool?

It's a fantastic case, specifically built to optimize airflow, I would
think you could do much better, without some of the P180's limits, if
you didn't care about airflow.

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  #12  
Old 06-20-2007, 06:22 PM
zach
 
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On Jun 20, 10:40 am, DevilsPGD <spam_narf_s...@crazyhat.net> wrote:
> In message <_%9ei.2424$vi5.1...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net> "Ed Medlin"
>
>
>
>
>
> <e...@edmedlin.com> wrote:
>
> >"SteveH" <steve.houghREM...@MEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:lz5ei.8401$p8.1789@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> >> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_s...@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> >>news:389h73hpg9vt773g58k2ef2adrdg3ooppi@4ax.com. ..
> >>> In message <1182308720.739305.104...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups .com> zach
> >>> <zach...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >>>>anyone have any good PC cases?? thanks for the help

>
> >>> Antec P180, if you're serious about quiet and cool systems rather then
> >>> flashy lights and transparent sidewalls.

>
> >> Indeed - got 2 of 'em here.

>
> >> SteveH

> >I also like them. I have the Antec P180 modded for liquid cooling by
> >Swiftech (labeled as Quiet Power) and it is great. It is about as silent as
> >it gets.

>
> With all due respect, why bother with a P180 if you're going to liquid
> cool?
>
> It's a fantastic case, specifically built to optimize airflow, I would
> think you could do much better, without some of the P180's limits, if
> you didn't care about airflow.
>
> --
> If quitters never win, and winners never quit,
> what fool came up with, "Quit while you're ahead"?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks for all the help every1, This is the case i had in mind, It has
a 120mm in the back and a 120mm fan in the front and side fan... any1
tell me if its any good? http://www.pccasegear.com/prod5282.htm

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Old 06-20-2007, 08:12 PM
DevilsPGD
 
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Default Re: good PC case

In message <1182360128.502832.5660@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.c om> zach
<zachvek@gmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for all the help every1, This is the case i had in mind, It has
>a 120mm in the back and a 120mm fan in the front and side fan... any1
>tell me if its any good? http://www.pccasegear.com/prod5282.htm


I can't say I'd go near it myself, the location of the drives and not
nearly enough clearance between the power supply and motherboard.

That being said, if you're building the machine and not tinkering down
the road, it will probably do the trick.

I also would not touch a toolless anything, although perhaps I've had
bad experiences here previously.

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  #14  
Old 06-20-2007, 09:02 PM
zach
 
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On Jun 20, 1:12 pm, DevilsPGD <spam_narf_s...@crazyhat.net> wrote:
> In message <1182360128.502832.5...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.c om> zach
>
> <zach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Thanks for all the help every1, This is the case i had in mind, It has
> >a 120mm in the back and a 120mm fan in the front and side fan... any1
> >tell me if its any good?http://www.pccasegear.com/prod5282.htm

>
> I can't say I'd go near it myself, the location of the drives and not
> nearly enough clearance between the power supply and motherboard.
>
> That being said, if you're building the machine and not tinkering down
> the road, it will probably do the trick.
>
> I also would not touch a toolless anything, although perhaps I've had
> bad experiences here previously.
>
> --
> If quitters never win, and winners never quit,
> what fool came up with, "Quit while you're ahead"?


Not to get off the subject but is Rosewell a good PS??

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Old 06-20-2007, 10:01 PM
DevilsPGD
 
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In message <1182369758.498416.218390@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups. com> zach
<zachvek@gmail.com> wrote:

>Not to get off the subject but is Rosewell a good PS??


I can't say I've used one personally...

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  #16  
Old 06-20-2007, 10:28 PM
Travis McGee
 
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Default Re: good PC case

One of the best!

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <1182369758.498416.218390@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups. com> zach
> <zachvek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Not to get off the subject but is Rosewell a good PS??

>
> I can't say I've used one personally...
>
> --
> If quitters never win, and winners never quit,
> what fool came up with, "Quit while you're ahead"?



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Old 06-20-2007, 11:45 PM
zach
 
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On Jun 20, 3:28 pm, "Travis McGee" <noth...@aol.com> wrote:
> One of the best!
>
> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_s...@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
>
> news:to4j73tkfd8lavauouaqhfn8fbnbvdl0d0@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > In message <1182369758.498416.218...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups. com> zach
> > <zach...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > >Not to get off the subject but is Rosewell a good PS??

>
> > I can't say I've used one personally...

>
> > --
> > If quitters never win, and winners never quit,
> > what fool came up with, "Quit while you're ahead"?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Sweet thanks becaues i have a Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX
V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA,
TUV, FCC - Retail , well i am going to get it, since its a good PS and
i am spending abotu 1200 on my computer all together, ( not including
shipping) for all my items i wan to order, thanks for the help heres
the list of everything im going to use
Motherboard:Fata1ty AN9
Hard Drive: Western Digital 74gb 10,000 RPM Raptor
Video Card:XFX 7950GT 512MB
Proceessor: AMD Athlon 5000+ 2.6ghz
Memory: 4Gb kit Crucial (So i dont waste money on upgrade((mobob
supports 8gb))
Power supply: (up there)
Case: Antec Solo

Well built system??

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Old 06-21-2007, 01:04 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <_%9ei.2424$vi5.1434@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net> "Ed Medlin"
> <ed@edmedlin.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"SteveH" <steve.houghREMOVE@MEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:lz5ei.8401$p8.1789@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
>>> news:389h73hpg9vt773g58k2ef2adrdg3ooppi@4ax.com...
>>>> In message <1182308720.739305.104030@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups .com> zach
>>>> <zachvek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>anyone have any good PC cases?? thanks for the help
>>>>
>>>> Antec P180, if you're serious about quiet and cool systems rather then
>>>> flashy lights and transparent sidewalls.
>>>
>>> Indeed - got 2 of 'em here.
>>>
>>> SteveH

>>I also like them. I have the Antec P180 modded for liquid cooling by
>>Swiftech (labeled as Quiet Power) and it is great. It is about as silent
>>as
>>it gets.

>
> With all due respect, why bother with a P180 if you're going to liquid
> cool?
>
> It's a fantastic case, specifically built to optimize airflow, I would
> think you could do much better, without some of the P180's limits, if
> you didn't care about airflow.
>

The P180's size and construction is almost made for a liquid cooling system.
The radiator fits in the rear-top, water pump in the bottom tunnel and tank
just behind the top HDD tray. It still has the large (120mm??) quiet fans
and they work great for cooling the rest of the components. I just liquid
cool the processor right now because everything else is so quiet. Even the
two 8800 GTX cards are extremely quiet.


Ed


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Old 06-21-2007, 06:08 PM
DevilsPGD
 
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Default Re: good PC case

In message <1182379522.524405.27900@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om> zach
<zachvek@gmail.com> wrote:

>Sweet thanks becaues i have a Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX
>V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA,
>TUV, FCC - Retail , well i am going to get it, since its a good PS and
>i am spending abotu 1200 on my computer all together, ( not including
>shipping) for all my items i wan to order, thanks for the help heres
>the list of everything im going to use
>Motherboard:Fata1ty AN9
>Hard Drive: Western Digital 74gb 10,000 RPM Raptor
>Video Card:XFX 7950GT 512MB
>Proceessor: AMD Athlon 5000+ 2.6ghz
>Memory: 4Gb kit Crucial (So i dont waste money on upgrade((mobob
>supports 8gb))
>Power supply: (up there)
>Case: Antec Solo
>
>Well built system??


I'm not familiar with that motherboard, or XFX cards in general, so I
can't speak to that combination.

Memory wise, what operating system? If you're staying in the 32-bit
world, you'll likely be limited to ~3.2GB-3.5GB (or less, depending on
motherboard architecture) of usable RAM. Not necessarily a problem, but
it's something to research before purchasing 4GB of RAM.

My motherboard needs reserves around 400MB of address space for itself,
so when you add that to the two 512MB video cards I have, I can barely
use over 2.5GB.

Second, I'd stay away from the Raptor series of drives, look at
something like the ST3400620AS instead. This drive will outperform the
Raptors under most real-world circumstances due to the substantially
higher density of the bits (in other words, create a 74GB partition and
you'll find it actually seeks within that 74GB faster then the Raptor),
plus the ST3400620AS actually supports NCQ (which fails to actually work
on the Raptor)

The Raptor drives are good in theory, but in my own experience, modern
7200rpm drives out perform the Raptors at a fraction of the cost, heat,
and noise.

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Old 06-21-2007, 06:39 PM
DevilsPGD
 
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In message <_Otei.17326$y_7.13143@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t> "Ed
Medlin" <ed@edmedlin.com> wrote:

>The P180's size and construction is almost made for a liquid cooling system.
>The radiator fits in the rear-top, water pump in the bottom tunnel and tank
>just behind the top HDD tray. It still has the large (120mm??) quiet fans
>and they work great for cooling the rest of the components. I just liquid
>cool the processor right now because everything else is so quiet. Even the
>two 8800 GTX cards are extremely quiet.


Interesting -- I wouldn't bother with liquid cooling until it could cool
practically everything. Makes sense though, with that approach

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