In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net> wrote:
>Craig wrote:
>> "Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
>> news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com...
>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
>>> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
>>> The drive might need replacing too.
>>>
>> I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles, but
>> I'm not sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a try.
>
>You'll be needing this:
>http://computers.pricegrabber.com/dv.../sortby=priceA
>
Possibly.
But if the laser is dirty, he'd need that anyway.
Sometimes it pays to do things with stuff that's going into the scrap
heap that isn't recommended for working devices.
Just like they say, NEVER EVER open a hard-drive.
I've had a couple with bad bearings that couldn't even be started up.
So, against all advice, I opened the drive, lubricated the bearings, and
got the thing to work well enough that I copied the data over onto
another drive. The relubricated drive then continued to work for over
two more years; but it was relegated to the "non-trustworthy" set.
When you have to trash something anyway, sometimes it PAYS to ignore
advice against doing things that will supposedly ruin the thing. After
all, what have you got to lose?
I learned this as a kid, when my mother used to throw out old
alarm-clocks that didn't work. I salvaged them, took them apart,
cleaned them, and put them back together. *Completely* unrecommended by
the manufacturer, you understand, who made good money out of selling new
mechanical clocks about every year or so to people.
The first two or three I took apart, I never managed to get back
together. From then on, only about one in ten didn't resume running as
good or better than from the factory, when I finished. I still have one
out in the garage that still works after close to fifty years now ...
One my mother had discarded because it was "broke".
What loss is it if you "break" something that's already broken?
And a CD drive with a dirty laser head is just that: Something you
SCRAP, not repair. Taking it to a repairman would cost more than the
price of a new drive. However, running a "cleaning disk" under the
thing costs a buck or two at most; and if it gets the drive to work,
then it saves a bunch of money.
If not, then you haven't lost much, have you?
Certainly not a good drive, which you didn't have anyway.
Geesh.
If it won't write properly, then *TRY* cleaning it.
If that doesn't work, THEN throw it away and buy a new one.
Complaining that using a cleaning-disk *might* destroy an already dead
drive is ... Well, pretty dumb, in my opinion.
Many things that are quite dumb to do with a *working* device, actually
make quite good sense to try and rescue something that's going in the
trash otherwise. So you might destroy an already dead drive. So bloody
WHAT?
Geesh.
If you're trying to be "helpful",
instead of yelling, "Don't do that!"
why not give a valid alternative?
Rebecca wrote:
> Frank McCoy wrote:
>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Craig wrote:
>>>> "Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com...
>>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
>>>>> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
>>>>> The drive might need replacing too.
>>>>>
>>>> I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles,
>>>> but I'm not sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a
>>>> try.
>>>
>>> You'll be needing this:
>>> http://computers.pricegrabber.com/dv.../sortby=priceA
>>>
>> Possibly.
>> But if the laser is dirty, he'd need that anyway.
>> Sometimes it pays to do things with stuff that's going into the scrap
>> heap that isn't recommended for working devices.
>>
>> Just like they say, NEVER EVER open a hard-drive.
>> I've had a couple with bad bearings that couldn't even be started up.
>> So, against all advice, I opened the drive, lubricated the bearings,
>> and got the thing to work well enough that I copied the data over
>> onto another drive. The relubricated drive then continued to work
>> for over two more years; but it was relegated to the
>> "non-trustworthy" set. When you have to trash something anyway, sometimes
>> it PAYS to ignore
>> advice against doing things that will supposedly ruin the thing.
>> After all, what have you got to lose?
>>
>> I learned this as a kid, when my mother used to throw out old
>> alarm-clocks that didn't work. I salvaged them, took them apart,
>> cleaned them, and put them back together. *Completely* unrecommended
>> by the manufacturer, you understand, who made good money out of
>> selling new mechanical clocks about every year or so to people.
>>
>> The first two or three I took apart, I never managed to get back
>> together. From then on, only about one in ten didn't resume running
>> as good or better than from the factory, when I finished. I still
>> have one out in the garage that still works after close to fifty
>> years now ... One my mother had discarded because it was "broke".
>>
>> What loss is it if you "break" something that's already broken?
>>
>> And a CD drive with a dirty laser head is just that: Something you
>> SCRAP, not repair. Taking it to a repairman would cost more than the
>> price of a new drive. However, running a "cleaning disk" under the
>> thing costs a buck or two at most; and if it gets the drive to work,
>> then it saves a bunch of money.
>>
>> If not, then you haven't lost much, have you?
>> Certainly not a good drive, which you didn't have anyway.
>>
>> Geesh.
>> If it won't write properly, then *TRY* cleaning it.
>> If that doesn't work, THEN throw it away and buy a new one.
>> Complaining that using a cleaning-disk *might* destroy an already
>> dead drive is ... Well, pretty dumb, in my opinion.
>>
>> Many things that are quite dumb to do with a *working* device,
>> actually make quite good sense to try and rescue something that's
>> going in the trash otherwise. So you might destroy an already dead
>> drive. So bloody WHAT?
>>
>> Geesh.
>>
>> If you're trying to be "helpful",
>> instead of yelling, "Don't do that!"
>> why not give a valid alternative?
>
> That's a "stand-alone" if I ever saw one. No comment necessary.
Julie wrote:
> Rebecca wrote:
>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Craig wrote:
>>>>> "Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com...
>>>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
>>>>>> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
>>>>>> The drive might need replacing too.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles,
>>>>> but I'm not sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a
>>>>> try.
>>>>
>>>> You'll be needing this:
>>>> http://computers.pricegrabber.com/dv.../sortby=priceA
>>>>
>>> Possibly.
>>> But if the laser is dirty, he'd need that anyway.
>>> Sometimes it pays to do things with stuff that's going into the
>>> scrap heap that isn't recommended for working devices.
>>>
>>> Just like they say, NEVER EVER open a hard-drive.
>>> I've had a couple with bad bearings that couldn't even be started
>>> up. So, against all advice, I opened the drive, lubricated the
>>> bearings, and got the thing to work well enough that I copied the data
>>> over
>>> onto another drive. The relubricated drive then continued to work
>>> for over two more years; but it was relegated to the
>>> "non-trustworthy" set. When you have to trash something anyway,
>>> sometimes it PAYS to ignore
>>> advice against doing things that will supposedly ruin the thing.
>>> After all, what have you got to lose?
>>>
>>> I learned this as a kid, when my mother used to throw out old
>>> alarm-clocks that didn't work. I salvaged them, took them apart,
>>> cleaned them, and put them back together. *Completely*
>>> unrecommended by the manufacturer, you understand, who made good money
>>> out of
>>> selling new mechanical clocks about every year or so to people.
>>>
>>> The first two or three I took apart, I never managed to get back
>>> together. From then on, only about one in ten didn't resume running
>>> as good or better than from the factory, when I finished. I still
>>> have one out in the garage that still works after close to fifty
>>> years now ... One my mother had discarded because it was "broke".
>>>
>>> What loss is it if you "break" something that's already broken?
>>>
>>> And a CD drive with a dirty laser head is just that: Something you
>>> SCRAP, not repair. Taking it to a repairman would cost more than
>>> the price of a new drive. However, running a "cleaning disk" under
>>> the thing costs a buck or two at most; and if it gets the drive to
>>> work, then it saves a bunch of money.
>>>
>>> If not, then you haven't lost much, have you?
>>> Certainly not a good drive, which you didn't have anyway.
>>>
>>> Geesh.
>>> If it won't write properly, then *TRY* cleaning it.
>>> If that doesn't work, THEN throw it away and buy a new one.
>>> Complaining that using a cleaning-disk *might* destroy an already
>>> dead drive is ... Well, pretty dumb, in my opinion.
>>>
>>> Many things that are quite dumb to do with a *working* device,
>>> actually make quite good sense to try and rescue something that's
>>> going in the trash otherwise. So you might destroy an already dead
>>> drive. So bloody WHAT?
>>>
>>> Geesh.
>>>
>>> If you're trying to be "helpful",
>>> instead of yelling, "Don't do that!"
>>> why not give a valid alternative?
>>
>> That's a "stand-alone" if I ever saw one. No comment necessary.
>
> The classic back-peddle.
Frank McCoy <mccoyf@millcomm.com> Thou hunchback. Thou bat-fowling,
flea-bitten poor unminded outlaw sneaking home. Ye anguished:
> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Craig wrote:
>>> "Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com...
>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
>>>> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
>>>> The drive might need replacing too.
>>>>
>>> I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles, but
>>> I'm not sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a try.
>>
>> You'll be needing this:
>> http://computers.pricegrabber.com/dv.../sortby=priceA
>>
> Possibly.
> But if the laser is dirty, he'd need that anyway.
> Sometimes it pays to do things with stuff that's going into the scrap
> heap that isn't recommended for working devices.
>
> Just like they say, NEVER EVER open a hard-drive.
> I've had a couple with bad bearings that couldn't even be started up.
> So, against all advice, I opened the drive, lubricated the bearings,
> and got the thing to work well enough that I copied the data over onto
> another drive. The relubricated drive then continued to work for over
> two more years; but it was relegated to the "non-trustworthy" set.
>
> When you have to trash something anyway, sometimes it PAYS to ignore
> advice against doing things that will supposedly ruin the thing.
> After all, what have you got to lose?
>
> I learned this as a kid, when my mother used to throw out old
> alarm-clocks that didn't work. I salvaged them, took them apart,
> cleaned them, and put them back together. *Completely* unrecommended
> by the manufacturer, you understand, who made good money out of
> selling new mechanical clocks about every year or so to people.
>
> The first two or three I took apart, I never managed to get back
> together. From then on, only about one in ten didn't resume running
> as good or better than from the factory, when I finished. I still
> have one out in the garage that still works after close to fifty
> years now ... One my mother had discarded because it was "broke".
>
> What loss is it if you "break" something that's already broken?
>
> And a CD drive with a dirty laser head is just that: Something you
> SCRAP, not repair. Taking it to a repairman would cost more than the
> price of a new drive. However, running a "cleaning disk" under the
> thing costs a buck or two at most; and if it gets the drive to work,
> then it saves a bunch of money.
>
> If not, then you haven't lost much, have you?
> Certainly not a good drive, which you didn't have anyway.
>
> Geesh.
> If it won't write properly, then *TRY* cleaning it.
> If that doesn't work, THEN throw it away and buy a new one.
> Complaining that using a cleaning-disk *might* destroy an already dead
> drive is ... Well, pretty dumb, in my opinion.
>
> Many things that are quite dumb to do with a *working* device,
> actually make quite good sense to try and rescue something that's
> going in the trash otherwise. So you might destroy an already dead
> drive. So bloody WHAT?
>
> Geesh.
>
> If you're trying to be "helpful",
> instead of yelling, "Don't do that!"
> why not give a valid alternative?
****ing blithering nitwit.
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:25:47 -0400, "Craig" <capalme@hotmail.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>"Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
>news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com.. .
>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
>> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>>>
>> Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
>> The drive might need replacing too.
>>
>I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles, but I'm not
>sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a try.
If you can, clean the lens with a cotton bud moistened with water.
- Franc Zabkar
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"Craig" <capalme@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nFT8i.12574$rO7.8055@newssvr25.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> <mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp sp2, 512
>>> mb
>>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk out
>>> and
>>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning process,
>>> it's
>>> failing to verify the disk.
>>>
>>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be some
>>> lag
>>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it takes a
>>> moment
>>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's what
>>> is
>>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just dvd's.
>>> Very
>>> strange.
>>
>> why wud u want to read a blank disk
>
> No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where you
> would be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.
>
> 1: I burn a disk.
> 2. The burn is successful.
> 3. The verification process fails.
> 4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.
>
> are you with me so far???
>
> My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk on
> the home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.
>
> Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like check
> your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already check that.
> duh.
Nero seems to be the problem, or Nero + burner + certain media. Nero
V6-something burns fine but fails to perform a verification with just some
of the media, when burning certain formats. The disks and burns are fine,
passing other integrity tests (zip, rar, MD5 checks). Try another brand
(different media code). A box of cheap Playo DVD-R 8x (UME01) does this on
one of my burners.
Re: failing to verify 
Linear Mode
