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Old 06-04-2007, 04:41 AM
Frank McCoy
 
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In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Frank McCoy wrote:
>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
>>>> <invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Blank discs aren't blank.
>>>>
>>>> Some unformatted floppies are.
>>>> Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
>>>
>>> Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was
>>> Roses." You should see it.
>>>

>> Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip>

>
>Would it make sense if he had said "The Subject Was DVDs"?
>

Possibly; but blank DVDs like blank CDs *are* blank.

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Old 06-04-2007, 01:34 PM
Craig
 
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<mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp sp2, 512
>> mb
>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk out
>> and
>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning process, it's
>> failing to verify the disk.
>>
>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be some
>> lag
>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it takes a
>> moment
>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's what
>> is
>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just dvd's.
>> Very
>> strange.

>
> why wud u want to read a blank disk


No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where you would
be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.

1: I burn a disk.
2. The burn is successful.
3. The verification process fails.
4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.

are you with me so far???

My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk on the
home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.

Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like check
your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already check that. duh.


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  #13  
Old 06-04-2007, 03:35 PM
Frank McCoy
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Craig" <capalme@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
><mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp sp2, 512
>>> mb
>>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk out
>>> and
>>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning process, it's
>>> failing to verify the disk.
>>>
>>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be some
>>> lag
>>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it takes a
>>> moment
>>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's what
>>> is
>>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just dvd's.
>>> Very
>>> strange.

>>
>> why wud u want to read a blank disk

>
>No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where you would
>be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.
>
>1: I burn a disk.
>2. The burn is successful.
>3. The verification process fails.
>4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.
>
>are you with me so far???
>
>My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk on the
>home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.
>
>Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like check
>your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already check that. duh.
>

Nope.
Clean the LED on your drive, using any of the various cleaning tools out
there. If that doesn't work, then replace the drive.

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  #14  
Old 06-04-2007, 04:49 PM
relic
 
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Frank McCoy wrote:
> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
>>>>> <invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Blank discs aren't blank.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some unformatted floppies are.
>>>>> Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
>>>>
>>>> Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was
>>>> Roses." You should see it.
>>>>
>>> Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip>

>>
>> Would it make sense if he had said "The Subject Was DVDs"?
>>

> Possibly; but blank DVDs like blank CDs *are* blank.


I buy a hundred or so DVDs a month. None I've bought so far have been
completely blank, they all have had format information so the OS and Apps
can recognize what they are. Where do you get your "blank" DVDs? ...and how
do you get them to work.


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  #15  
Old 06-04-2007, 04:50 PM
relic
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

Craig wrote:
> <mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp sp2,
>>> 512 mb
>>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk
>>> out and
>>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning
>>> process, it's failing to verify the disk.
>>>
>>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be
>>> some lag
>>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it takes
>>> a moment
>>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's
>>> what is
>>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just
>>> dvd's. Very
>>> strange.

>>
>> why wud u want to read a blank disk

>
> No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where you
> would be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.
>
> 1: I burn a disk.
> 2. The burn is successful.
> 3. The verification process fails.
> 4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.
>
> are you with me so far???
>
> My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk
> on the home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.
>
> Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like
> check your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already
> check that. duh.


Your PC won't ignore errors, your DVD Player will.


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  #16  
Old 06-04-2007, 04:52 PM
chrisv
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

Frank McCoy wrote:
> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Craig" <capalme@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> <mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp
>>>> sp2, 512 mb
>>>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk
>>>> out and
>>>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning
>>>> process, it's failing to verify the disk.
>>>>
>>>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be
>>>> some lag
>>>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it
>>>> takes a moment
>>>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's
>>>> what is
>>>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just
>>>> dvd's. Very
>>>> strange.
>>>
>>> why wud u want to read a blank disk

>>
>> No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where
>> you would be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.
>>
>> 1: I burn a disk.
>> 2. The burn is successful.
>> 3. The verification process fails.
>> 4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.
>>
>> are you with me so far???
>>
>> My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk
>> on the home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.
>>
>> Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like
>> check your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already
>> check that. duh.
>>

> Nope.
> Clean the LED on your drive, using any of the various cleaning tools
> out there. If that doesn't work, then replace the drive.


Bad idea. Cleaning the LED on a DVD usually ends its life. The old "CD
Cleaning" discs are for CDs, not DVDs.


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  #17  
Old 06-04-2007, 04:55 PM
relic
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

chrisv wrote:
> Frank McCoy wrote:
>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Craig" <capalme@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp
>>>>> sp2, 512 mb
>>>>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk
>>>>> out and
>>>>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning
>>>>> process, it's failing to verify the disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be
>>>>> some lag
>>>>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it
>>>>> takes a moment
>>>>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's
>>>>> what is
>>>>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just
>>>>> dvd's. Very
>>>>> strange.
>>>>
>>>> why wud u want to read a blank disk
>>>
>>> No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where
>>> you would be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.
>>>
>>> 1: I burn a disk.
>>> 2. The burn is successful.
>>> 3. The verification process fails.
>>> 4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.
>>>
>>> are you with me so far???
>>>
>>> My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk
>>> on the home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.
>>>
>>> Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like
>>> check your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already
>>> check that. duh.
>>>

>> Nope.
>> Clean the LED on your drive, using any of the various cleaning tools
>> out there. If that doesn't work, then replace the drive.

>
> Bad idea. Cleaning the LED on a DVD usually ends its life. The old "CD
> Cleaning" discs are for CDs, not DVDs.


I agree.


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  #18  
Old 06-04-2007, 07:48 PM
Frank McCoy
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
<invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:

>Frank McCoy wrote:
>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
>>>>>> <invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blank discs aren't blank.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some unformatted floppies are.
>>>>>> Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was
>>>>> Roses." You should see it.
>>>>>
>>>> Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip>
>>>
>>> Would it make sense if he had said "The Subject Was DVDs"?
>>>

>> Possibly; but blank DVDs like blank CDs *are* blank.

>
>I buy a hundred or so DVDs a month. None I've bought so far have been
>completely blank, they all have had format information so the OS and Apps
>can recognize what they are. Where do you get your "blank" DVDs? ...and how
>do you get them to work.
>

Look again.
They ARE blank.
No format information on them or even needed.
They write their own when you write the disk.
If you look closely at the active side of a CD or DVD, you can even SEE
the areas that are written, and those that are not.

Look at them under a microscope, if you want to see the exact details.

Unwritten CDs and DVDs are blank; I repeat: BLANK!
They'd be pretty much useless if they weren't.

I'm not quite sure how rewritable CDs and DVDs work when writing over a
given track.

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  #19  
Old 06-04-2007, 07:49 PM
Frank McCoy
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Frank McCoy wrote:
>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Craig" <capalme@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <mohamed.samsudeen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1180894010.689911.85320@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> On Jun 3, 10:08 am, "Craig" <capa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp
>>>>> sp2, 512 mb
>>>>> ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk
>>>>> out and
>>>>> play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning
>>>>> process, it's failing to verify the disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be
>>>>> some lag
>>>>> in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it
>>>>> takes a moment
>>>>> (maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's
>>>>> what is
>>>>> causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just
>>>>> dvd's. Very
>>>>> strange.
>>>>
>>>> why wud u want to read a blank disk
>>>
>>> No not a blank disk. Apparently I have failed to explain it where
>>> you would be able to comprehend what I said. I'll try again.
>>>
>>> 1: I burn a disk.
>>> 2. The burn is successful.
>>> 3. The verification process fails.
>>> 4. I take the disk and play it in a dvd player and it plays fine.
>>>
>>> are you with me so far???
>>>
>>> My question is on the disk failing to verify. If I can play the disk
>>> on the home dvd player, then it should verify ok. But it doesn't.
>>>
>>> Oh, and by the way, please don't come back with something inane like
>>> check your firmware, or update ide drivers, because I've already
>>> check that. duh.
>>>

>> Nope.
>> Clean the LED on your drive, using any of the various cleaning tools
>> out there. If that doesn't work, then replace the drive.

>
>Bad idea. Cleaning the LED on a DVD usually ends its life. The old "CD
>Cleaning" discs are for CDs, not DVDs.
>

They work for both. LOOK at their specifications.
Besides, it's either clean the crap off the Laser or throw the drive
away. Your choice.

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Old 06-04-2007, 08:26 PM
relic
 
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Default Re: failing to verify

Frank McCoy wrote:
> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
> <invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
>
>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank McCoy wrote:
>>>>>>> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
>>>>>>> <invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blank discs aren't blank.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some unformatted floppies are.
>>>>>>> Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was
>>>>>> Roses." You should see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip>
>>>>
>>>> Would it make sense if he had said "The Subject Was DVDs"?
>>>>
>>> Possibly; but blank DVDs like blank CDs *are* blank.

>>
>> I buy a hundred or so DVDs a month. None I've bought so far have been
>> completely blank, they all have had format information so the OS and
>> Apps can recognize what they are. Where do you get your "blank"
>> DVDs? ...and how do you get them to work.
>>

> Look again.
> They ARE blank.
> No format information on them or even needed.
> They write their own when you write the disk.
> If you look closely at the active side of a CD or DVD, you can even
> SEE the areas that are written, and those that are not.
>
> Look at them under a microscope, if you want to see the exact details.
>
> Unwritten CDs and DVDs are blank; I repeat: BLANK!
> They'd be pretty much useless if they weren't.
>
> I'm not quite sure how rewritable CDs and DVDs work when writing over
> a given track.


Download this freebie, read a "blank" (according to you) DVD and then
explain the data you just read from it.
http://www.vso-software.fr/products/.../inspector.php

After that, you may **** off.


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