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Old 05-01-2008, 04:47 AM
letterman@invalid.com
 
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Default Do any internal modems work?

I have always used external modems. I think internal modems are the
curse of the universe. I swore I would never use another internal,
but my 56K external is running real slow and only connecting at 24K. I
suspect the phone lines, since we are having some flooding. To verify
that is in fact the phone lines, I thought I'd try another modem.
Unfortunately I only had 3 some spare internals. One already went in
the trash because it had a loose part. The others appear to be ok,
for whatever that's worth. I do suspect they are ok, since I took
them out of other working, but slow computers that I stripped for
parts. They are PCI card types.

One is a US Robotics model 0637

Two is a Cyber Star CY-MDM-Cyber 10 56K data-fax modem (whoever makes
that thing). And that one contains a MIC and SPK jack, so I assume it
contains a built in sound card.

I hesitated to plug in that Cyber Star, but the USR modem seems like
it would be the ticket, since USR makes good modems.

I'm running Win98se. Neither modem is recognized. I tried 2
different PCI slots. If I try to use the manual settings, and select
"Standard Modem", it always gives me COM 1 and COM 2. Shouldn't it
give me com 3 and 4? After all, both com1 and com2 are assigned to
the com ports, even though they are no in use with my ext modem
disconnected.

No matter what I try, neither modem is even found, and I tried to
allow windows to find it, and did it manually. I even booted to dos
and tried to run an old dos version of Telix for dos. Nothing finds
the **** things. Internal modems are the curse of civilization and
likely the reason we have so much violence in this world, because AI
am darn near ready to take a hammer to all of them.

If anyone knows any tricks to getting them to work, let me know before
I get the hammer.... Hurry, I'm in hammer mode!!!!

By the way, I downloaded what is supposed to be the driver for the USR
modem. File name: 297581.exe
It's a self extracting .exe (zip file).
When I run it, it placed the following files in my Windows/Temp
folder.
Great, now what the hell do I do with this when there is no executable
file in there?????? (yeah, I already tried to rename the .EX_ to .EXE.
It gave an error message.

WHO MAKES UP THIS CRAP ???????????

Here is the file list:

URBOVCD VX_ 9,717 01-27-99 10:53a turbovcd.vx_
README TXT 1,289 01-27-99 10:53a Readme.txt
TURBOVBF VX_ 4,833 01-27-99 10:53a turbovbf.vx_
MIGRATE DLL 34,304 01-27-99 10:53a migrate.dll
WINMODEM INF 56,824 02-10-99 2:28p winmodem.inf
WINMODEM VX_ 387,018 01-27-99 10:56a WINMODEM.VX_
WMDLL DL_ 24,357 01-27-99 10:56a WMDLL.DL_
WMEXE EX_ 27,627 01-27-99 10:56a WMEXE.EX_
WMLDR VX_ 4,605 01-27-99 10:56a WMLDR.VX_
WMPASS DL_ 48,244 01-27-99 10:56a WMPASS.DL_

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Old 05-01-2008, 05:28 AM
Paul
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
> I have always used external modems. I think internal modems are the
> curse of the universe. I swore I would never use another internal,
> but my 56K external is running real slow and only connecting at 24K. I
> suspect the phone lines, since we are having some flooding. To verify
> that is in fact the phone lines, I thought I'd try another modem.
> Unfortunately I only had 3 some spare internals. One already went in
> the trash because it had a loose part. The others appear to be ok,
> for whatever that's worth. I do suspect they are ok, since I took
> them out of other working, but slow computers that I stripped for
> parts. They are PCI card types.
>
> One is a US Robotics model 0637
>
> Two is a Cyber Star CY-MDM-Cyber 10 56K data-fax modem (whoever makes
> that thing). And that one contains a MIC and SPK jack, so I assume it
> contains a built in sound card.
>
> I hesitated to plug in that Cyber Star, but the USR modem seems like
> it would be the ticket, since USR makes good modems.
>
> I'm running Win98se. Neither modem is recognized. I tried 2
> different PCI slots. If I try to use the manual settings, and select
> "Standard Modem", it always gives me COM 1 and COM 2. Shouldn't it
> give me com 3 and 4? After all, both com1 and com2 are assigned to
> the com ports, even though they are no in use with my ext modem
> disconnected.
>
> No matter what I try, neither modem is even found, and I tried to
> allow windows to find it, and did it manually. I even booted to dos
> and tried to run an old dos version of Telix for dos. Nothing finds
> the **** things. Internal modems are the curse of civilization and
> likely the reason we have so much violence in this world, because AI
> am darn near ready to take a hammer to all of them.
>
> If anyone knows any tricks to getting them to work, let me know before
> I get the hammer.... Hurry, I'm in hammer mode!!!!
>
> By the way, I downloaded what is supposed to be the driver for the USR
> modem. File name: 297581.exe
> It's a self extracting .exe (zip file).
> When I run it, it placed the following files in my Windows/Temp
> folder.
> Great, now what the hell do I do with this when there is no executable
> file in there?????? (yeah, I already tried to rename the .EX_ to .EXE.
> It gave an error message.
>
> WHO MAKES UP THIS CRAP ???????????
>
> Here is the file list:
>
> URBOVCD VX_ 9,717 01-27-99 10:53a turbovcd.vx_
> README TXT 1,289 01-27-99 10:53a Readme.txt
> TURBOVBF VX_ 4,833 01-27-99 10:53a turbovbf.vx_
> MIGRATE DLL 34,304 01-27-99 10:53a migrate.dll
> WINMODEM INF 56,824 02-10-99 2:28p winmodem.inf
> WINMODEM VX_ 387,018 01-27-99 10:56a WINMODEM.VX_
> WMDLL DL_ 24,357 01-27-99 10:56a WMDLL.DL_
> WMEXE EX_ 27,627 01-27-99 10:56a WMEXE.EX_
> WMLDR VX_ 4,605 01-27-99 10:56a WMLDR.VX_
> WMPASS DL_ 48,244 01-27-99 10:56a WMPASS.DL_
>
> Thanks
>
>


Try right clicking on the INF file, and you may see options
like "Open" and "Install". Install sounds logical. The INF
says what files to copy, what registry entries to add, and
so on.

And when you do this, I don't think there is an uninstall
option.

If you have more identifying information than "0637", maybe
there is a driver on USR.com . More than one modem has FCC
number 0637.

http://www.usr.com/support/s-fcc.asp

Paul
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:53 AM
John Doe
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

letterman invalid.com wrote:

> I have always used external modems. I think internal modems are the
> curse of the universe. I swore I would never use another internal,
> but my 56K external is running real slow and only connecting at 24K. I
> suspect the phone lines, since we are having some flooding. To verify
> that is in fact the phone lines, I thought I'd try another modem.
> Unfortunately I only had 3 some spare internals. One already went in
> the trash because it had a loose part. The others appear to be ok,
> for whatever that's worth. I do suspect they are ok, since I took
> them out of other working, but slow computers that I stripped for
> parts. They are PCI card types.
>
> One is a US Robotics model 0637
>
> Two is a Cyber Star CY-MDM-Cyber 10 56K data-fax modem (whoever makes
> that thing). And that one contains a MIC and SPK jack, so I assume it
> contains a built in sound card.


Sound card?

> I hesitated to plug in that Cyber Star, but the USR modem seems like
> it would be the ticket, since USR makes good modems.


My last was a controller-based USR/3com modem.

> I'm running Win98se.


Anything 9x, prior to Windows XP, is the pits.

> Neither modem is recognized. I tried 2
> different PCI slots. If I try to use the manual settings, and select
> "Standard Modem", it always gives me COM 1 and COM 2. Shouldn't it
> give me com 3 and 4? After all, both com1 and com2 are assigned to
> the com ports, even though they are no in use with my ext modem
> disconnected.
>
> No matter what I try, neither modem is even found, and I tried to
> allow windows to find it, and did it manually.


If I'm not mistaken, the best group for modem questions has "dcom"
in the group name. You might get all the information you need here,
but they are the experts.

Good luck.















> I even booted to dos
> and tried to run an old dos version of Telix for dos. Nothing finds
> the **** things. Internal modems are the curse of civilization and
> likely the reason we have so much violence in this world, because AI
> am darn near ready to take a hammer to all of them.
>
> If anyone knows any tricks to getting them to work, let me know before
> I get the hammer.... Hurry, I'm in hammer mode!!!!
>
> By the way, I downloaded what is supposed to be the driver for the USR
> modem. File name: 297581.exe
> It's a self extracting .exe (zip file).
> When I run it, it placed the following files in my Windows/Temp
> folder.
> Great, now what the hell do I do with this when there is no executable
> file in there?????? (yeah, I already tried to rename the .EX_ to .EXE.
> It gave an error message.
>
> WHO MAKES UP THIS CRAP ???????????
>
> Here is the file list:
>
> URBOVCD VX_ 9,717 01-27-99 10:53a turbovcd.vx_
> README TXT 1,289 01-27-99 10:53a Readme.txt
> TURBOVBF VX_ 4,833 01-27-99 10:53a turbovbf.vx_
> MIGRATE DLL 34,304 01-27-99 10:53a migrate.dll
> WINMODEM INF 56,824 02-10-99 2:28p winmodem.inf
> WINMODEM VX_ 387,018 01-27-99 10:56a WINMODEM.VX_
> WMDLL DL_ 24,357 01-27-99 10:56a WMDLL.DL_
> WMEXE EX_ 27,627 01-27-99 10:56a WMEXE.EX_
> WMLDR VX_ 4,605 01-27-99 10:56a WMLDR.VX_
> WMPASS DL_ 48,244 01-27-99 10:56a WMPASS.DL_
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:40 PM
Jon Danniken
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote:
> I'm running Win98se. Neither modem is recognized.


Uninstall the software, the drivers, turn off the computer, and physically
remove the modem.

Reboot. Reboot again for fun.

Install the software/driver. Reboot.

Turn off the computer, install the physical modem, turn the computer back
on.

It should find the modem and apply the previously installed driver. You
might have to reboot again.

Jon


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Old 05-04-2008, 06:48 PM
Bob M
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

Jon Danniken wrote:
> <letterman@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm running Win98se. Neither modem is recognized.

>
>
> Uninstall the software, the drivers, turn off the computer, and physically
> remove the modem.
>
> Reboot. Reboot again for fun.
>
> Install the software/driver. Reboot.
>
> Turn off the computer, install the physical modem, turn the computer back
> on.
>
> It should find the modem and apply the previously installed driver. You
> might have to reboot again.
>
> Jon
>
>


In addition to what was suggested abobe, try another PCI slot. When I
was using Win 98 I ran into modem problems from time to time. Using
another PCI slot would sometimes work.
Bob
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:39 PM
nobody >
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

Bob M wrote:
> Jon Danniken wrote:
>> <letterman@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running Win98se. Neither modem is recognized.

>>
>>
>> Uninstall the software, the drivers, turn off the computer, and
>> physically remove the modem.
>>
>> Reboot. Reboot again for fun.
>>
>> Install the software/driver. Reboot.
>>
>> Turn off the computer, install the physical modem, turn the computer
>> back on.
>>
>> It should find the modem and apply the previously installed driver.
>> You might have to reboot again.
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
> In addition to what was suggested abobe, try another PCI slot. When I
> was using Win 98 I ran into modem problems from time to time. Using
> another PCI slot would sometimes work.
> Bob


I've alway put the modem in the slot ****hest away from the video card,
be the modem ISA or PCI after having troubles with closer slots (1 or 2
away). No real good reason, just that video cards do tend to radiate a
lot of noise in the case.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:41 PM
mike
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

hey I feel like it's 1998 again...
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:51 AM
Flasherly
 
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Default Re: Do any internal modems work?

On Apr 30, 11:47 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> I have always used external modems. I think internal modems are the
> curse of the universe. I swore I would never use another internal,
> but my 56K external is running real slow and only connecting at 24K. I
> suspect the phone lines, since we are having some flooding. To verify
> that is in fact the phone lines, I thought I'd try another modem.
> Unfortunately I only had 3 some spare internals. One already went in
> the trash because it had a loose part. The others appear to be ok,
> for whatever that's worth. I do suspect they are ok, since I took
> them out of other working, but slow computers that I stripped for
> parts. They are PCI card types.
>
> One is a US Robotics model 0637
>
> Two is a Cyber Star CY-MDM-Cyber 10 56K data-fax modem (whoever makes
> that thing). And that one contains a MIC and SPK jack, so I assume it
> contains a built in sound card.
>
> I hesitated to plug in that Cyber Star, but the USR modem seems like
> it would be the ticket, since USR makes good modems.
>
> I'm running Win98se. Neither modem is recognized. I tried 2
> different PCI slots. If I try to use the manual settings, and select
> "Standard Modem", it always gives me COM 1 and COM 2. Shouldn't it
> give me com 3 and 4? After all, both com1 and com2 are assigned to
> the com ports, even though they are no in use with my ext modem
> disconnected.
>
> No matter what I try, neither modem is even found, and I tried to
> allow windows to find it, and did it manually. I even booted to dos
> and tried to run an old dos version of Telix for dos. Nothing finds
> the **** things. Internal modems are the curse of civilization and
> likely the reason we have so much violence in this world, because AI
> am darn near ready to take a hammer to all of them.


There's a com port it's assigned to along with an IRQ. They're
expected and have default values. You may have your MB overmapping it
in the BIOS (active with nothing connected to the port). Try turning
it off. HIREMS or a DOS level diagnostics util may help. Pin jumper
the board for its defaults, then. External generally is the way to go
but I've also had good luck with a software-driven datapumps at V90 --
Lucent and others. Been awhile - I've a couple nice new externals in
boxes that may end up the trash can. Nobody can stand running them
anymore. Getting the hardware ID'd is only the first part -- then
you've all the command strings specific to a chipset and combinations
best for hitting on a entirely different one you're dialing into.
Results from the correct INF file for Windows to provide actual
connection information. Similar to controlling a printer with control
codes, except printers don't necessary reach out in a blizzard to make
a connection into Canada.
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