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Old 11-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Jim Breslauer
 
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Default Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)

Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:07 PM
Paul
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

Jim Breslauer wrote:
> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
> assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
> setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
> doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
> card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)
>
> Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.


Is this P5K-VM ? There are a number of boards with a name
starting with P5K.

Look under "Northbridge Configuration" in the manual.

There is an "Internal Graphics Mode Select".

As for address space consumption, try page 8 of this document, for
an example.

http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/4GB_Rev1.pdf

Paul
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:21 PM
John Weiss
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

"Jim Breslauer" <jimbres@usa.net> wrote...
> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
> assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
> setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
> doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
> card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)


32-bit XP can only address 3 GB of RAM.


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Old 11-18-2007, 10:23 PM
Michael Cecil
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:19:59 -0500, Jim Breslauer <jimbres@usa.net> wrote:

> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
>assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
>setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
>doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
>card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)
>
>Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.


Don't worry - you're not doing anything wrong. Windows XP uses use of all
4GB but it's not all available to the user with the 32-bit version of XP.
No matter what BIOS or boot.ini settings you change, the most you'll get
is somewhere between 3 and 3.5GB depending on the motherboard and system
devices.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:49 PM
Brett Kline
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

Jim Breslauer wrote:
> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
> assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
> setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
> doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
> card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)
>
> Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.



PCI and PCI Express devices such as USB controllers, IEEE1394, motherboard
resources, and the 8600GTS are mapped to address space below 0xFFFFFFFF.

One solution is to use 64-bit XP or Vista but that has gotyas as well.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us

The article mentions 32-bit Vista but the same caveats apply to all 32-bit
versions of NT.



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Old 11-19-2007, 01:04 AM
Michael Cecil
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:13:52 -0800, SHRED <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Michael Cecil wrote:
>
>> Don't worry - you're not doing anything wrong. Windows XP uses use of all
>> 4GB but it's not all available to the user with the 32-bit version of XP.
>> No matter what BIOS or boot.ini settings you change, the most you'll get
>> is somewhere between 3 and 3.5GB depending on the motherboard and system
>> devices.

>
>So to clarify:
>
>Using a 32-bit version of XP or Vista it won't show 4 gigs even though
>they are installed.
>However, the system is still utilizing all 4 gigs.
>
>Is that correct?


Yes.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:46 AM
DevilsPGD
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

In message <_Z50j.1077$yb2.216@newsfe14.phx> SHRED <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Michael Cecil wrote:
>
>> Don't worry - you're not doing anything wrong. Windows XP uses use of all
>> 4GB but it's not all available to the user with the 32-bit version of XP.
>> No matter what BIOS or boot.ini settings you change, the most you'll get
>> is somewhere between 3 and 3.5GB depending on the motherboard and system
>> devices.

>
>So to clarify:
>
>Using a 32-bit version of XP or Vista it won't show 4 gigs even though
>they are installed.
>However, the system is still utilizing all 4 gigs.
>
>Is that correct?


Umm, actually no.

You'll be able to use ~3GB of your RAM, the rest of the RAM is
unavailable to a 32-bit operating system (without PAE support)

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Old 11-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Michael Hawes
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board


"Jim Breslauer" <jimbres@usa.net> wrote in message
news:0ee1k3l1dhhjh4mfjpes271tkh1e9todqg@4ax.com...
> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
> assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
> setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
> doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
> card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)
>
> Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.


Sorry, but it's not the onboard video. 32 bit OS can only see 4Gb, but lots
of adapters are mapped ono the top of the memory map. Some systems see a bit
less than that. You will need 64bit OS to do better, or a server 2003
installation.

Mike.


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Old 11-20-2007, 10:43 AM
Jim Breslauer
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

Thanks, Mike. I didn't know this. My previous build had only 2GB.


"Michael Hawes" <michael.hawes1remove@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Jim Breslauer" <jimbres@usa.net> wrote in message
>news:0ee1k3l1dhhjh4mfjpes271tkh1e9todqg@4ax.com.. .
>> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
>> assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
>> setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
>> doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
>> card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)
>>
>> Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.

>
>Sorry, but it's not the onboard video. 32 bit OS can only see 4Gb, but lots
>of adapters are mapped ono the top of the memory map. Some systems see a bit
>less than that. You will need 64bit OS to do better, or a server 2003
>installation.
>
> Mike.
>

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Old 11-21-2007, 06:34 PM
Franc Zabkar
 
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Default Re: Disabling onboard video - Asus P5K board

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:19:59 -0500, Jim Breslauer <jimbres@usa.net>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

> I've got 4GB of RAM in my P5K but WinXP shows only 3.25GB. I
>assume that onboard video is using the difference, but I can't find a
>setting in the BIOS setup that would let me disable it, & the manual
>doesn't mention jumper settings that would do this. (FWIW, my video
>card is a GeForce 8600 GTS.)
>
>Has anyone else encountered this? TIA for any suggestions.


I don't use XP, but in Win98 you can see the memory resources in
Device Manager by viewing the Properties for Computer. Any address
greater than C0000000 is above the 3GB boundary.

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