CPU too hot

On Aug 10, 6:28 pm, "JAD" <john d...@harvesting.addys.for.****.spam>
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> "Terry" <kilow...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> >I just changed motherboards. I cleaned the old chip and heat-sink/fan
> > with alcohol and used a lint free monitor cloth.
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> > After booting the machine, I went straight to the bios. In about 1
> > minute temperature climbed to 75C.
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> > I used Arctic Silver. I am afraid I used too much. The instructions
> > say ......The 3.5 gram tube contains enough compound to cover at least
> > 15 to 25 small CPU cores, or 6 to 10 large CPU cores.
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> > I was trying ti spread it thin, but ended up using about a third.
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> > I have an Intel P4 3.2G chip.
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> > Should I try to take some off or clean it off and start over?
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> Getting wrecked over the thickness of the goop is not necessary.
> Not paying attention at all to what your doing is also wrong.
> It should not ooze out except for a very thin line at the space between the CPU and the
> heat sink.
> Its purpose is to fill VERY SMALL imperfections and scratches to eliminate air gaps.
> How's the fan spinning? MAKE SURE the Heat sink is the right way round, it goes on only
> one way

I think I may have had the heat sink in upside down the first time.
The base and heat sink latches look like they will work at 0 and 180,
but not at 90 and 270.

After reading this I looked at the heat sink and the label that says
"Intel" is upside down if it were standing upright in the case, but I
think this must be the correct way.

I tried turning back around to the way I had in originally, but one of
the catches would latch and the other one wouldn't.

Are there markings on the heat sink to tell you which way to orient it?

There are various Temp and Fan Monitoring Applications out there....
SpeedFan is good....if you take the time to read the notes
MotherBoard Monitor is good if you have an older mobo.
Then there is Everest which reads everything to do with your
system...hardware and software.
Then there are Applications that work with specific CPU's like CoreTemp
with Intel CPU's
They read the actual diode on the mobo directly..and they read the temp.
diode on/in the CPU itself if available.
The P4 chips do run a little hotter than the average chip...but 60 is still
a little warmer than comfortable....low 50's would be better.
Even back in 2003 when it came out reviewers where saying it needed better
cooling than the stock Intel unit it came with.
peter

"Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Aug 10, 10:25 pm, "peter" <pe...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> You the same guy with the Northbridge Fan??
>> I would take it apart and wipe off all of the Arctic Silver and clean
>> with
>> Alcohol and a lint free cloth...I actually use a sponge tipped Q-Tip and
>> Isopropyl Alcohol...but I have used my wife's nail polish remover in the
>> past.
>> Then squeeze a very small amount on and spread it carefully.....I use an
>> old
>> Credit Card or a small piece of flexible cardboard with a smooth edge.
>> At times I place 2 drops in the center and spread slowly towards the
>> edges.The object is to get an even thin ...thin layer on the CPU to cover
>> the slight imperfections and to act as a conductor.
>> Then put it all together....................and test the temp again.
>> Are you using the default Intel Heatsink and Fan?? The Air needs to go
>> somehwere...out the back by means of a fan would be ideal....with a
>> little
>> help from the PSU Fan sucking some of that hot air out.
>> peter"Terry" <kilow...@charter.net> wrote in message
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>> >I just changed motherboards. I cleaned the old chip and heat-sink/fan
>> > with alcohol and used a lint free monitor cloth.
>>
>> > After booting the machine, I went straight to the bios. In about 1
>> > minute temperature climbed to 75C.
>>
>> > I used Arctic Silver. I am afraid I used too much. The instructions
>> > say ......The 3.5 gram tube contains enough compound to cover at least
>> > 15 to 25 small CPU cores, or 6 to 10 large CPU cores.
>>
>> > I was trying ti spread it thin, but ended up using about a third.
>>
>> > I have an Intel P4 3.2G chip.
>>
>> > Should I try to take some off or clean it off and start over
>
> Thanks for your suggestions all.
>
> I am the Northbridge guy, but I am trying to get two computers going
>
> The machine with the hot CPU is a new motherboard. I am using an old
> CPU and heat sink. The temp today in Georgia was 100, but the room is
> a cool 70. I haven't tried to put the side back on the computer yet.
> My optimism for building computers is over. The fan is running fine.
> The bios reports the fan speed at about 2400rpm.
>
> Others have suggested using a temp monitor. I am currently using the
> bios to check the speeds. I am guessing that the external monitors
> would be getting the information from the bios?
>
> Still reporting close to 60C
>
> BTW I did clean it with a lint free cloth and alcohol.. I will take
> it back off and try reapplying a lighter coat.
>
> Thanks
>

On Aug 10, 8:51 pm, Terry <kilow...@charter.net> wrote:

> I think I may have had the heat sink in upside down the first time.
> The base and heat sink latches look like they will work at 0 and 180,
> but not at 90 and 270.
>
> After reading this I looked at the heat sink and the label that says
> "Intel" is upside down if it were standing upright in the case, but I
> think this must be the correct way.
>
> I tried turning back around to the way I had in originally, but one of
> the catches would latch and the other one wouldn't.
How the hell can a heat sink be attached upside-down?

"sillyputty" <karmictaragem@2die4.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 10, 8:51 pm, Terry <kilow...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I think I may have had the heat sink in upside down the first time.
>> The base and heat sink latches look like they will work at 0 and 180,
>> but not at 90 and 270.
>>
>> After reading this I looked at the heat sink and the label that says
>> "Intel" is upside down if it were standing upright in the case, but I
>> think this must be the correct way.
>>
>> I tried turning back around to the way I had in originally, but one of
>> the catches would latch and the other one wouldn't.
> How the hell can a heat sink be attached upside-down?
>
you fix a t****ze to the ceiling then hang upside down from that whilst
working on the mobo..I have built computers this way for years..

helmut wrote:
> "sillyputty" <karmictaragem@2die4.com> wrote in message

> > How the hell can a heat sink be attached upside-down?
> >
> you fix a t****ze to the ceiling then hang upside down from that whilst
> working on the mobo..I have built computers this way for years..
Of course!
--
As appealing as it might seem, it is impossible to patch or upgrade
users.

"Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Aug 10, 5:05 pm, johns <johns...@moscow.com> wrote:
>> Pretty sure the Artic Silver is not the problem. I build
>> systems for a living, and I just put a goop of the stuff
>> right in the middle of the cpu, and don't spread it at
>> all. The pressure of the fan holder-heat sink spreads
>> it after the system has warmed up. If I use too much,
>> it just spills over the side and beads around the edge
>> of the cpu. So that stuff about just putting on a thin
>> layer is not true. After my builds, I test, and for most
>> AMDs, the idle temp is 33 degrees C ... sometimes
>> as high as 36 C .. but no more.
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>> The only time I have seen the cpu temp go up like
>> yours has done is if I did not get the heat sink on
>> evenly, and it is tilted up on one side and not making
>> contact with the top of the cpu. I suspect that is
>> the problem here.
>>
>> johns
>
> Well I reseated the heatsink and slowed down the heat up, but after 5
> min the CPU temp is 59C idle.
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> This is no where 36. More suggestions?
>
> Thanks all
>
Tell us the cpu and mobo and more about your system. Also, about the
hs/cooler. May be too small cooler for cpu being run. s