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Old 05-28-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default broadband modem routers

I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2
PC.

there is a lot out there;

will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
connection?

thanks
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:10 AM
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Nospam wrote:
> I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2 PC.
>
> there is a lot out there;
>
> will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
> connection?
>
> thanks


First, find a technical article that lists the standards to comply with.
This article has a table of standards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adsl

Then compare the list of standards supported by the product you are
looking at. For example, this product supports "ITU 992.1 (G.dmt)
Annex A, B, 992.2 (G.lite), 992.3 ADSL2 (G.dmt.bis),
992.4 ADSL2(G.lite.bis) 992.5 ADSL 2+". In other words,
fully backwards compatible.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833346001

The other thing you might have a minor interest in, is the
protocol used on top of the physical layer. For example, they
use PPPOE on my ADSL connection. I have an ADSL modem, and
then I use a router that supports PPPOE. That means what comes
out of the router is plain old Ethernet, suitable for up to
four computers to connect. If my router did not terminate
PPPOE, then the conversion process would have to be done somewhere
else. So when you do your planning, find out whether your
provider uses PPPOA or PPPOE, so that your home equipment
does all the necessary conversions without bothering any
of your computers.

When I initially got ADSL, I did PPPOE termination on my single
computer, using a software CD from my provider. Well, it was
"freeze and crash city". Once I got a router, for the express
purpose of terminating PPPOE outside the computer, I could
actually use the computer without problems. Then I didn't
need my provider's software any more. And the added bonus was,
I could connect up to four computers to my line.

Paul
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:26 AM
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"Nospam" <nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2 PC.
>
> there is a lot out there;
>
> will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
> connection?
>
> thanks
> --
> Nospam


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Old 05-29-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: broadband modem routers

In article <5N9+V7C260WGFwUk@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Nospam says...
> I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2
> PC.
>
> there is a lot out there;
>
> will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
> connection?
>

Netgear DG834GT.


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Old 05-30-2007, 02:40 PM
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In message <MPG.20c6586e8b08003898a9b4@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
<conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
>In article <5N9+V7C260WGFwUk@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Nospam says...
>> I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2
>> PC.
>>
>> there is a lot out there;
>>
>> will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
>> connection?
>>

>Netgear DG834GT.
>
>


Thanks for the replies.

I have been and had a look and I am down to two units.

the netgear unit mentioned by Conor above

http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_st...it_dgb111g.php
this is a starter pack that has a USB WiFi adapter included.


And a unit I can get from Tescos (I can just pick it up off the shelf)
Buffalo Wireless ADSL Modem Router Package

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-4670.aspx


this is also a starter pack that has a USB WiFi adapter included.

Does anyone have any horror stories about either unit?


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Old 05-30-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: broadband modem routers

Nospam wrote:
> In message <MPG.20c6586e8b08003898a9b4@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
> <conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
>> In article <5N9+V7C260WGFwUk@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Nospam says...
>>> I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2
>>> PC.
>>>
>>> there is a lot out there;
>>>
>>> will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
>>> connection?
>>>

>> Netgear DG834GT.
>>
>>

>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> I have been and had a look and I am down to two units.
>
> the netgear unit mentioned by Conor above
>
> http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_st...it_dgb111g.php
> this is a starter pack that has a USB WiFi adapter included.
>
>
> And a unit I can get from Tescos (I can just pick it up off the shelf)
> Buffalo Wireless ADSL Modem Router Package
>
> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-4670.aspx
>
>
> this is also a starter pack that has a USB WiFi adapter included.
>
> Does anyone have any horror stories about either unit?
>
>
> thanks


You can get a manual for the Tesco Buffalo model here. What I like to see
in a product, is flash updates for the box, as they seldom get the design
right on the first try. My first router must have had over a dozen versions
of firmware. So why don't I see any firmware listed here ?

http://www.buffalo-technology.com/su...-modem-router/
http://www.buffalo-technology.com/su...G54+Manual.pdf

And this posting is from Feb 2002 ? Implying the Buffalo design has been
around for a while. Maybe the firmware is "mature" or something ?

http://forums.speedguide.net/showthr...46#post2037946

I can see something for the Netgear, implying they support their design.

http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834Gv3.asp
ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/DG...RM_20JAN06.pdf (manual)

If you are going wireless, then you'd want the thing to be secure.
Some options (weaker to stronger). Again, check the list of supported
standards, to see what is possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy (WEP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access (WPA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPA2 (WPA2)

Paul
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:29 PM
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"Nospam" <nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:SOHE1RAY7XXGFwIO@nospam.demon.co.uk...
> In message <MPG.20c6586e8b08003898a9b4@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
> <conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
>>In article <5N9+V7C260WGFwUk@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Nospam says...
>>> I am looking for a WiFi broadband router to access the Internet for 2
>>> PC.
>>>
>>> there is a lot out there;
>>>
>>> will a unit that is ADSL2+ work on a standard run-of-the-mill broadband
>>> connection?
>>>

>>Netgear DG834GT.
>>
>>

>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> I have been and had a look and I am down to two units.
>
> the netgear unit mentioned by Conor above
>
> http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_st...it_dgb111g.php
> this is a starter pack that has a USB WiFi adapter included.
>
>
> And a unit I can get from Tescos (I can just pick it up off the shelf)
> Buffalo Wireless ADSL Modem Router Package
>
> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-4670.aspx
>
>
> this is also a starter pack that has a USB WiFi adapter included.
>
> Does anyone have any horror stories about either unit?
>
>
> thanks
> --
> Nospam


Just a personal preference, but I would always go for Netgear. My DG834G
has been on most of the time since November 2005 with just the occasional
reboot, and my son constantly playing World of Warcraft.

Bob


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