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Old 06-19-2007, 11:01 PM
Travis McGee
 
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Default Bad floppy?

Hi again. I built me new box and ran Tuff Test on it. It shows a bad seek,
rotational error on a new floppy drive. I ran the same test on my old
computer, all ok.

While it was testing rotational speed, the disc wasn't turning at all. Is it
possible this old testing prog doesn't run the FDD properly, or should I
change out the drive?

It was a new Sony floppy. drive.

TIA


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Old 06-20-2007, 06:13 AM
The Seabat
 
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Default Re: Bad floppy?

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:01:27 GMT, "Travis McGee" <nothere@aol.com>
wrote:

>>Hi again. I built me new box and ran Tuff Test on it. It shows a bad seek,
>>rotational error on a new floppy drive. I ran the same test on my old
>>computer, all ok.
>>
>>While it was testing rotational speed, the disc wasn't turning at all. Is it
>>possible this old testing prog doesn't run the FDD properly, or should I
>>change out the drive?
>>
>>It was a new Sony floppy. drive.
>>
>>TIA
>>


Did you try reversing the cable to the floppy?
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:05 AM
Travis McGee
 
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"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
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> Did you try reversing the cable to the floppy?


Interesting.........the twisted cable always goes to the drive, correct?


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Old 06-20-2007, 03:33 PM
The Seabat
 
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Default Re: Bad floppy?

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:05:52 GMT, "Travis McGee" <nothere@aol.com>
wrote:

>>
>>"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
>>news:5qdh731fpa64dumcqsa1940t8dvoutchkf@4ax.com. ..
>>> Did you try reversing the cable to the floppy?

>>
>>Interesting.........the twisted cable always goes to the drive, correct?
>>


Generally. But it is real easy to turn it around on the drive
itself. The motherboard usually has a notch so that you can only
place the end of IDE cable in one way. A lot of floppys don't always
have a good identifiable key to make sure the cable fits correctly.
My rule of thumb is to make sure the edge of the cable that is
marked (usually with a red color) goes toward the center of the
drive. If you have it hooked up backwards, the floppy In Use light
will usually stay on all the time there is power to the system. But
that's not set in stone, either.

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Old 06-20-2007, 11:35 PM
Travis McGee
 
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"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
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> My rule of thumb is to make sure the edge of the cable that is
> marked (usually with a red color) goes toward the center of the
> drive.


Are you SURE about this: All my cables have the stripe on the outside
edge....


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Old 06-21-2007, 06:00 AM
The Seabat
 
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Default Re: Bad floppy?

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:35:08 GMT, "Travis McGee" <nothere@aol.com>
wrote:

>>
>>"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
>>news:hfei73t0cja09i8rrbbvnvcuikkk4106hk@4ax.com. ..
>>> My rule of thumb is to make sure the edge of the cable that is
>>> marked (usually with a red color) goes toward the center of the
>>> drive.

>>
>>Are you SURE about this: All my cables have the stripe on the outside
>>edge....
>>


It varies from unit to unit. Mine are generally on the inside. Does
your unit have the number one pin marked? That is where the stripe
goes. It probably won't hurt to change and see if that corrects your
problem.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:09 AM
Travis McGee
 
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"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
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> It varies from unit to unit. Mine are generally on the inside. Does
> your unit have the number one pin marked? That is where the stripe
> goes. It probably won't hurt to change and see if that corrects your
> problem.


OK, I mis-spoke. My old box is as you described, however, the new unit has
the notch so it won't go in a different way. I'm wondering if the test is
defective and won't spool up the drive for a rev test.....I'm only going to
use it to load the RAID software, though.

Which brings up another question.......Will Win Home be ok to use in a LAN?
Did I read it didn't have the networking stuff like PRO?

Thanks again.


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Old 06-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Travis McGee
 
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<tjustin@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> You said the test showed errors, but does the floppy drive work? Can
> you both read and write to a disk? Is the disk good? Nothing was
> ever mentioned about this, so I thought I'd mention it.
>


Oh, sorry. Tuff Test is written in machine language and loads from the
floppy, so yes it works. I tried a dup and got the same results. Tried the
test on my other box, and no errors. I tried a 98 start-up disc and it
booted. No OS on yet, so no WIN test was used. I may just get another FD
when I order the OS.

Thanks for the catch!


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Old 06-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Franc Zabkar
 
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Default Re: Bad floppy?

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:25:32 GMT, "Travis McGee" <nothere@aol.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

><tjustin@nomail.com> wrote in message
>news:i1nk735mjitqvtg7tnm25cfl4a1d6t9h7d@4ax.com.. .
>> You said the test showed errors, but does the floppy drive work? Can
>> you both read and write to a disk? Is the disk good? Nothing was
>> ever mentioned about this, so I thought I'd mention it.
>>

>
>Oh, sorry. Tuff Test is written in machine language and loads from the
>floppy, so yes it works. I tried a dup and got the same results. Tried the
>test on my other box, and no errors. I tried a 98 start-up disc and it
>booted. No OS on yet, so no WIN test was used. I may just get another FD
>when I order the OS.
>
>Thanks for the catch!


If the floppy spins when the OS asks it to spin, then I'd report the
problem/bug to Tufftest's authors.

If you really want to find out what is happening, or not happening,
then measure the Motor Enable A/B and Drive Select A/B pins on the
interface cable:

http://pinouts.ru/Storage/InternalDisk_pinout.shtml

The above pins should be accessible at the spare connector.

- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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