"Bob Brown INC." <sillyspammers@bots.dumb> wrote in message
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> Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>
> Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>
> I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
> really buggy and slow.
> thanks
Bob Brown INC. wrote:
> Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>
> Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>
> I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
> really buggy and slow.
> thanks
It appears that the original web page provided by Asus, is
no longer available. There used to be a simple graph and
a bit of text, describing how it works.
The actual implementation varies with motherboard. Some motherboards
rely on a BIOS routine to manage things. Some SuperI/O chips, like
some Winbonds, have a "cruise control" done in hardware, inside the
SuperI/O, and that can do the grunt work instead. In that case, the BIOS
code would no longer be needed - the BIOS could define the register values
and let the SuperI/O do its thing. The register values would get wiped,
if the user decided to run something like SpeedFan while in Windows
(as tools like SpeedFan, control the settings themselves).
There is an article here (and yes, the article is not in English, and
no, I cannot read it :-) ):
This is the reviewer's idea of how Asus programs things, when
Q-fan is enabled. Basically, all the action centers on a
certain threshold temperature. You should be able to see
this, by starting something like Prime95 Torture Test. Get out
a tool that can display temperature versus time (like maybe one
of the several versions of Asus Probe), and see how the temperature
and fan speed vary. Note that the curve here, defines a "stop speed"
which is not zero. Which means the fan should have a "slowest speed"
that it adopts, until the temp rises high enough. Note that there
have been reports of Asus boards, where the CPU fan has actually
stopped. Whether this was intended, or was a programming mistake,
is a constant question with features like this (there is no harm,
because in that case, as soon as the CPU gets hot enough, the fan
starts spinning again). Since the motherboard manual doesn't seek to
clarify things, you can only guess at the details.
The response can be complicated a bit, depending on whether the
fan used has its own temperature sensor. Some fans ramp their speed,
when the computer case air temperature rises past a certain level.
Then, you have the response of Q-fan, overlaid with how the fan works.
That could contribute, for example, to cases of stopped fans, rather
than the fan running at some minimal speed. (Temperature controlled
fans reduce their internal voltage, so you are seeing the effects
of two voltage reductions, cascaded.)
AFAIK, Q-fan does not observe the actual RPMs and do anything about
it. Q-fan observes temperature, and delivers a voltage to the fan,
in response to that temperature. The actual RPM value is not part
of the control algorithm.
No OS driver should need to be installed, for this to work.
On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:09:40 -0400 'Bob Brown INC.'
posted this onto alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt:
>Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>
>Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>
>I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
>really buggy and slow.
>thanks
I'm an ABIT mobo freak, so I know nothing about Cool & Quiet but
it appears to do what SpeedFan does: controls fan speeds and temps.
Is it a free alternative if you can't get C & Q running?
Paul wrote:
> Bob Brown INC. wrote:
>> Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>>
>> Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>>
>> I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
>> really buggy and slow.
>> thanks
>
Well, that is another mis-read for me :-( :-(
I thought you were referring to Q-fan for some reason.
When the computer is idle, the software will adjust the FID (multiplier)
and VID (Vcore) of the processor, so it runs a lot slower. This makes it
run cooler. If you have Q-Fan running, the fan could well slow down in
response. When you make the processor busy, it will speed up again.
The adjustments are pretty fast.
In article <kcjv33tm16b1qdel4e6nt136okarbfq7r8@bbb.org>, Bob Brown INC.
says...
> Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>
> Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>
> I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
> really buggy and slow.
> thanks
>
You need to download the AMD Cool'n'Quiet application from AMD's
website.
--
Conor
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........
Conor wrote:
> In article <kcjv33tm16b1qdel4e6nt136okarbfq7r8@bbb.org>, Bob Brown
> INC. says...
>> Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>>
>> Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>>
>> I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
>> really buggy and slow.
>> thanks
>>
> You need to download the AMD Cool'n'Quiet application from AMD's
> website.
And then turn on 'minimal power management' in power options in XP.
In article <kcjv33tm16b1qdel4e6nt136okarbfq7r8@bbb.org>, sillyspammers@bots.dumb says...
>
>
>Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>
>Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>
>I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
>really buggy and slow.
>thanks
Two cases:
1. not an X2 chip - then same old stuff I suppose?
2. If X2 chip, then apparently things have changed, and you will not
find any Cool&Quiet drivers for X2 chips on Windows on the Asus or AMD
site. Nor do you need them for X2 chips.
What you need instead is to install the new "AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core
Processor Driver" from the AMD site at http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...30_182_871_131
18,00.html
It is an exe which installs very easily, independent of Windows.
(I dont know if Microsoft has this yet or not). Then enable C&Q in
Bios, and set Windows to Minimal Power Management. Then utilities like
CPUZ will show the multipler and MHz are greatly reduced most of the
time, mine from 12x to 5x.
I have a M2V board, C&Q enabled in BIOS, but CPU not C or Q. Drivers
installed from board's CD. What is an X2 chip? I have a 32bit AMD AM2 3200+
1.8GHz proc (box labeled "64 bit technology"-don't know if that applies to
my proc, ie, if the magic 64 can somehow be coaxed into action). Have I gone
as far as possible in making C&C active?
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RobF
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"Wayne" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:9T%4i.5354$Ud7.4966@trnddc08...
> In article <kcjv33tm16b1qdel4e6nt136okarbfq7r8@bbb.org>,
> sillyspammers@bots.dumb says...
>>
>>
>>Ok, so I enabled the Thing in the BIOS, A8S-X board.
>>
>>Is software "required" for it to work properly?
>>
>>I need to know exactly what to search for since the ASUS website is
>>really buggy and slow.
>>thanks
>
> Two cases:
>
> 1. not an X2 chip - then same old stuff I suppose?
> 2. If X2 chip, then apparently things have changed, and you will not
> find any Cool&Quiet drivers for X2 chips on Windows on the Asus or AMD
> site. Nor do you need them for X2 chips.
>
> What you need instead is to install the new "AMD AthlonT 64 X2 Dual Core
> Processor Driver" from the AMD site at
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...30_182_871_131
> 18,00.html
> It is an exe which installs very easily, independent of Windows.
>
> (I dont know if Microsoft has this yet or not). Then enable C&Q in
> Bios, and set Windows to Minimal Power Management. Then utilities like
> CPUZ will show the multipler and MHz are greatly reduced most of the
> time, mine from 12x to 5x.
>
In article <gf05i.61670$OT4.44797@newsfe19.lga>, r_fox24@co_x.net says...
>
>
>I have a M2V board, C&Q enabled in BIOS, but CPU not C or Q. Drivers
>installed from board's CD. What is an X2 chip? I have a 32bit AMD AM2 3200+
>1.8GHz proc (box labeled "64 bit technology"-don't know if that applies to
>my proc, ie, if the magic 64 can somehow be coaxed into action). Have I gone
>as far as possible in making C&C active?
X2 is the AMD Dual Core CPU chips. 3200+ is not one of them.
X2 does not need C&Q drivers, but I think the others do.
If you installed the C&Q driver, and enabled C&Q in Bios, and changed your
Windows to Minimal Power Management (Control Panel - Power Options - Power
Schemes), it should work.
ASUS's Cool & Quiet, How to enable? 
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