TVeblen wrote:
> Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build
> using a floppy?
> I recall when I built my P4C800-ED machine with the hard drives on the
> Promise RAID controller, the ONLY way to install XP was to write the
> driver files to a floppy and hit F6 during the install to load them.
> Are things different now?
> (PS- I've got a box full of floppy drives, so the $15 is not an
> issue).
Lots of people will say don't bother. Personally, for what a floppy drive
costs, I don't see the problem. And I've seen plenty of people caught on the
groups caught out by not having done so.
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Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
floppy?
I recall when I built my P4C800-ED machine with the hard drives on the
Promise RAID controller, the ONLY way to install XP was to write the driver
files to a floppy and hit F6 during the install to load them. Are things
different now?
(PS- I've got a box full of floppy drives, so the $15 is not an issue).
TVeblen wrote:
> Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
> floppy?
Yes.
> I recall when I built my P4C800-ED machine with the hard drives on the
> Promise RAID controller, the ONLY way to install XP was to write the driver
> files to a floppy and hit F6 during the install to load them. Are things
> different now?
No.
> (PS- I've got a box full of floppy drives, so the $15 is not an issue).
>
>
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:07:16 -0500, "TVeblen" <killtherobots@hal.net>
wrote:
>Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
>floppy?
>I recall when I built my P4C800-ED machine with the hard drives on the
>Promise RAID controller, the ONLY way to install XP was to write the driver
>files to a floppy and hit F6 during the install to load them. Are things
>different now?
>(PS- I've got a box full of floppy drives, so the $15 is not an issue).
>
If there is extra space I install a floppy drive as there are a few
laying around, but I might not buy a new one. I have trashed a few
hundred floppies after copying them to a CD. Floppies are just too
slow except for the smallest of files.
"TVeblen" <killtherobots@hal.net> wrote in message
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> Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
> floppy?
> I recall when I built my P4C800-ED machine with the hard drives on the
> Promise RAID controller, the ONLY way to install XP was to write the
> driver files to a floppy and hit F6 during the install to load them. Are
> things different now?
> (PS- I've got a box full of floppy drives, so the $15 is not an issue).
>
I'm not sure if this falls under "personal preferences," but I have an old
Sony Mavica...and I still use Money 2000 (which "sorta defaults" to a floppy
backup)...so, yeah, I'm always gonna install a floppy in a new build.
TVeblen wrote:
> Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
> floppy?
You could make a USB drive to work like a floppy disk now
using the HP USB Drive Tool. And floppy diskettes are not
reliable in the longer time. Time to trash them.
BTW, Vi$ta could read driver out of a NTFS partition during
installation. Linux... um...
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> Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
> floppy?
> I recall when I built my P4C800-ED machine with the hard drives on the
> Promise RAID controller, the ONLY way to install XP was to write the driver
> files to a floppy and hit F6 during the install to load them. Are things
> different now?
> (PS- I've got a box full of floppy drives, so the $15 is not an issue).
That's about the only reason I can think of. For some mobos, it's the
easiest way to run the best semi-free memory diagnostic available,
Gold Memory.
TVeblen wrote:
> Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
> floppy?
It depends on whether or not you have other machines around which -1- need
floppy support and -2- provide floppy support.
If you have machines which you are supporting which don't have USB or
don't boot from USB or don't boot from CD (or zip for that matter) which
are likely to need a floppy for something, then you need something you can
write a floppy with to use on the machine or situation which might need
it.
If you have some other machine/s which can provide the floppy for the
machine which needs it because of retro- capabilities, then the newest
build might not need a floppy.
My most recent build doesn't have a fdd (installed), but I have boxes that
need floppy support and I have other boxes which have fdd for support. If
the fdd support boxes go away, I'll be salvaging a fdd in case I need to
install it in a box which doesn't have one.
Floppy media is very unreliable. And tiny capacity of course.
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:39:06 -0700, "Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
| TVeblen wrote:
| > Putting aside personal preferences, is there any reason to build using a
| > floppy?
|
| It depends on whether or not you have other machines around which -1- need
| floppy support and -2- provide floppy support.
|
| If you have machines which you are supporting which don't have USB or
| don't boot from USB or don't boot from CD (or zip for that matter) which
| are likely to need a floppy for something, then you need something you can
| write a floppy with to use on the machine or situation which might need
| it.
|
| If you have some other machine/s which can provide the floppy for the
| machine which needs it because of retro- capabilities, then the newest
| build might not need a floppy.
|
| My most recent build doesn't have a fdd (installed), but I have boxes that
| need floppy support and I have other boxes which have fdd for support. If
| the fdd support boxes go away, I'll be salvaging a fdd in case I need to
| install it in a box which doesn't have one.
|
| Floppy media is very unreliable. And tiny capacity of course.
On average, I haven't found floppy drives to be very reliable either. I've
probably bought more of them over the years than any other type of computer
hardware, unless RAM sticks count.
>> Floppy media is very unreliable. And tiny capacity of course.
>
> On average, I haven't found floppy drives to be very reliable either.
> I've probably bought more of them over the years than any other type of
> computer hardware, unless RAM sticks count.
My remarks were about the media, not the drives. I've never bought a fdd
(that I recall) because I've always had a 'plethora' of them lying around
which came with something which got salvaged.
It would seem that the first computer that I built I would have had to
'buy' a fdd, but I don't remember it that way. In all of the things I can
remember mailordering to assemble, I don't remember any fdd/s in the
lineup.
Maybe spare fdd/s are like dustbunnies and such, they are just always
'around' and no one knows where they came from. Like Leeuwenhoek's wee
beasties or something, spontaneously generated.
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