On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:36:04 -0400, "RobV"
<robv@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>kony wrote:
>> What performance level vs price do you need? The 800 was a
>> fairly performance oriented gaming card for it's time. Maybe
>> something like a Radeon 3650? IIRC, it's power consumption
>> is low enough it barely even needs an aux power connector.
>
>The 3650 does not have an aux power connector: it's not needed. It's a
>very low power GPU, both power-wise and performance-wise. It's fine for
>video related applications and/or older, less demanding games.
You're sure the _AGP_ versions don't have one? It sure
looks like they do in pictures.
>
>For any decent gaming, a 3850 GPU powered video card would work well.
.... if the rest of the system is high enough performing.
>It sells for ~$100 and can be found for less with (bad word) rebates.
>It does require a aux power connector, but still isn't a power hog by
>any means.
>
yes it could be worthwhile if gaming is important, and yet
if it's very important I'd think it's time to move on to a
PCI Express platform and card.
>I tried to help someone out.
>
>I had given them an AMD 2600 512 meg w AGP Radeon 9251
>128meg. Theyhave Verizon fios with a fast connection but were
>seeing relatively slow performance in graphics rendering inside
>Second Life.
>
>I studied all the graphics card rankings, things like
>http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...rd-time-s.html
>and others. It appeared to me that an Nvidia 7600 or an ATI
>x1600 would be about two classes higher performance. I found an
>ATI x1950 Pro 512 meg that looked even a little better than this
>and about the top of the AGP performance range.
>
>I tried to time rendering time before making the change. Then I
>swap in the upgrade, do the driver swap, make sure the
>resolution and settings are the same, and try timing the
>rendering again.
>
>It is difficult to get accurate timing inside SL, too many
>things change. But the subjective timing for rendering the
>screen doesn't show enough change to dependably notice, or maybe
>it is just none at all.
>
>Have I missed something? I expected 2x or so faster rendering
>when I moved up two classes in ranking and I see no change.
>
>Thanks
Seems likely the video card wasn't the bottleneck then,
rather CPU, memory performance, or amount of memory.
kony wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:36:04 -0400, "RobV"
> <robv@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> kony wrote:
>
>>> What performance level vs price do you need? The 800 was a
>>> fairly performance oriented gaming card for it's time. Maybe
>>> something like a Radeon 3650? IIRC, it's power consumption
>>> is low enough it barely even needs an aux power connector.
>>
>> The 3650 does not have an aux power connector: it's not needed.
>> It's a very low power GPU, both power-wise and performance-wise.
>> It's fine for video related applications and/or older, less
>> demanding games.
>
> You're sure the _AGP_ versions don't have one? It sure
> looks like they do in pictures.
I missed the AGP part. Just noticed the GPU number and gave info for
the PCIe version, which I have.
Thanks for clearing that up and sorry for the mistake.
Have you checked that your not trying to run a 3v AGP card in a 1.5v only
compatable AGP mobo, result = nice toasty smell.
"sharonpst" <sharonpst@dontspamme.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AFEEC9BA2B40123234abc@203.26.24.228...
>> If the agp slot and card are toast, it would seem a good
>> time to move to a PCI Express based platform instead of
>> buying both a board and video card that're AGP.
>>
> hi all
>
> thanks for your replies. come to think of it, you guys might be right. it
> could be just a coincidence, but at least five components have died in
> quick succession: the pci usb card, the psu, the agp card, the mobo, the
> cpu adaptor, the mobile rack, the dvd burner, one of the ribbons. well, i
> should admit that my system, at 6.5 years old, already has long teeth.
>
> the smoke comes from the agp card. i have thrown it away but i believe
> it's an ati 800 with a built-in molex connector. the agp slot is toast.
> but i still have a backup motherboard with an agp slot.
>
> i will install a new agp card once i can find some written assurances
> from the manufacturers that their video cards will not toast themselves
> or the agp slot. otherwise, i will have to find another backup
> motherboard.
>
> thanks again
>
>
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