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Old 11-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Man-wai Chang ToDie
 
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Default All 64-bit components?


Is there a motherboard that uses all 64-bit capable components? Seems
that only the CPU can switch mode between 32-bit and 64-bit...

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Old 11-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Conor
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

In article <4731bfac$1_1@rain.i-cable.com>, Man-wai Chang ToDie says...
>
> Is there a motherboard that uses all 64-bit capable components? Seems
> that only the CPU can switch mode between 32-bit and 64-bit...
>
>

64bit is solely needed for nothing more than being able to address
memory addresses above 4GB so there's no need for hardware other than
that between the CPU and the RAM to support 64bit.

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:52 PM
pcbuilder98
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

"Man-wai Chang ToDie" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4731bfac$1_1@rain.i-cable.com...
>
> Is there a motherboard that uses all 64-bit capable components? Seems
> that only the CPU can switch mode between 32-bit and 64-bit...
>
> --
> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.1
> ^ ^ 21:37:01 up 5 days 8:08 2 users load average: 0.00 0.01 0.00
> news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk


Don't you need software that can utilize 64bit too? I mean other than the
OS. I'm asking about something I neither use or know didly about.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:57 PM
geoff
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

Wrong again. It may refer to memory address lines only but can also refer
to the width of the data path between the CPU and memory. Obviously, things
get to memory and back a lot faster on a wider bus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64_bits

.. . . for some with an attitude, you sure put out a lot of bad info.

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Old 11-07-2007, 04:38 PM
Bob Fry
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

>>>>> "Conor" == Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> writes:

Conor> In article <4731bfac$1_1@rain.i-cable.com>, Man-wai Chang
Conor> ToDie says...
>> Is there a motherboard that uses all 64-bit capable
>> components? Seems that only the CPU can switch mode between
>> 32-bit and 64-bit...


Conor> 64bit is solely needed for nothing more than being able to
Conor> address memory addresses above 4GB so there's no need for
Conor> hardware other than that between the CPU and the RAM to
Conor> support 64bit.

In other words, any MB that supports a 64-bit CPU is the best that is
available, and the best that you need. No other changes needed to
fully support 64-bit.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:11 PM
pcbuilder98
 
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"Bob Fry" <bobfry@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> >>>>> "Conor" == Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> writes:

>
> Conor> In article <4731bfac$1_1@rain.i-cable.com>, Man-wai Chang
> Conor> ToDie says...
> >> Is there a motherboard that uses all 64-bit capable
> >> components? Seems that only the CPU can switch mode between
> >> 32-bit and 64-bit...

>
> Conor> 64bit is solely needed for nothing more than being able to
> Conor> address memory addresses above 4GB so there's no need for
> Conor> hardware other than that between the CPU and the RAM to
> Conor> support 64bit.
>
> In other words, any MB that supports a 64-bit CPU is the best that is
> available, and the best that you need. No other changes needed to
> fully support 64-bit.
> --
> "He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any one I
> know."
> -Abraham Lincoln
>


I think your software and OS must support 64bit arcthiture for you to derive
benefit from that hardware capability. Remember SSE, SSE2, SSE3, MMX and AMD
3d Now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_SIMD_Extensions
If it doesn't say it on the software box then you don't benefit.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:01 PM
Conor
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

In article <onkYi.434969$vo5.22189@fe04.news.easynews.com>, geoff
says...
> Wrong again. It may refer to memory address lines only but can also refer
> to the width of the data path between the CPU and memory. Obviously, things
> get to memory and back a lot faster on a wider bus.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64_bits
>
> . . . for some with an attitude, you sure put out a lot of bad info.
>

Perhaps you should learn to understand what you read...


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Old 11-07-2007, 07:02 PM
Conor
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

In article <r6j26med.fsf@mailinator.com>, Bob Fry says...
]
> In other words, any MB that supports a 64-bit CPU is the best that is
> available, and the best that you need. No other changes needed to
> fully support 64-bit.
>

Correct.


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Old 11-08-2007, 02:16 PM
geoff
 
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Default Re: All 64-bit components?

Ok,

> 64bit is solely needed for nothing more than being able to address
> memory addresses above 4GB


.. . . the above is what you wrote. So 64-bits provides absolutely nothing
more than addressing more memory, right?

Idiot.

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