Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:33:11 -0400, Crackles McFarly
<IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote:
>ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
>the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>
>Case open or closed it doesn't change the temp at all.
>
>I appreciate your help
>
>
>p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
What part? Is it instable? Generic answer would be a
threshold of about 70C, give or take depending on the
frequency (higher frequency needs slightly lower temp to
stay stable, all else being equal)
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:33:11 -0400, Crackles McFarly
> <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote:
>
>>ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
>>the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>>
>>Case open or closed it doesn't change the temp at all.
>>
>>I appreciate your help
>>
>>
>>p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
>
>
> What part? Is it instable? Generic answer would be a
> threshold of about 70C, give or take depending on the
> frequency (higher frequency needs slightly lower temp to
> stay stable, all else being equal)
So what temp do you have? What is temp of your systems location (room
temp)?
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
> ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
> the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>
> p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their various
CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
the appropriate tech manual.
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:42:37 -0700, "John Weiss"
<jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> sayd the following:
>"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
>> ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
>> the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>>
>> p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
>
>
>Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their various
>CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
>the appropriate tech manual.
>
This is for the TEMP of the Motherboard, not the CPU.
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
>>
>>Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their
>>various
>>CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
>>the appropriate tech manual.
>
> This is for the TEMP of the Motherboard, not the CPU.
CPU, case, and environmental temps are all quoted in the various documents.
Did you look at any of them?
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:06:23 -0400, Crackles McFarly
<IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:42:37 -0700, "John Weiss"
><jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> sayd the following:
>
>>"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
>>> ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
>>> the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>>>
>>> p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
>>
>>
>>Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their various
>>CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
>>the appropriate tech manual.
>>
>
>This is for the TEMP of the Motherboard, not the CPU.
>
>thanks,
You're not asking the right question.
There is no motherboard temp. Chipset? Which one? How are
you taking the reading? Do you expect an answer where the
person answering puts forth more effort than you were even
willing to make in asking?
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:35 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> sayd the
following:
>On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:06:23 -0400, Crackles McFarly
><IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:42:37 -0700, "John Weiss"
>><jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet > sayd the following:
>>
>>>"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
>>>> ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
>>>> the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>>>>
>>>> p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
>>>
>>>
>>>Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their various
>>>CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
>>>the appropriate tech manual.
>>>
>>
>>This is for the TEMP of the Motherboard, not the CPU.
>>
>>thanks,
>
>
>You're not asking the right question.
>There is no motherboard temp. Chipset? Which one? How are
>you taking the reading? Do you expect an answer where the
>person answering puts forth more effort than you were even
>willing to make in asking?
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:44:59 -0700, "John Weiss"
<jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> sayd the following:
>"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
>>>
>>>Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their
>>>various
>>>CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
>>>the appropriate tech manual.
>>
>> This is for the TEMP of the Motherboard, not the CPU.
>
>
>CPU, case, and environmental temps are all quoted in the various documents.
>Did you look at any of them?
>
Yes but the URL is gone from this thread, because it's setup to
keep/watch me only.
Re: normal temp , Where can I find this on the net.
Crackles McFarly wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:35 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> sayd the
> following:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:06:23 -0400, Crackles McFarly
>> <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:42:37 -0700, "John Weiss"
>>> <jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> sayd the following:
>>>
>>>> "Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote...
>>>>> ASUS A8S-X motherboard. I need to find a place on the net that tells
>>>>> the normal/safe temps for this motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. I searched with google and found only CPU temp help.
>>>>
>>>> Both AMD and Intel have Thermal and Mechanical Design Guides for their various
>>>> CPUs and systems. Go to the page for your CPU series and follow the links to
>>>> the appropriate tech manual.
>>>>
>>> This is for the TEMP of the Motherboard, not the CPU.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>
>> You're not asking the right question.
>> There is no motherboard temp. Chipset? Which one? How are
>> you taking the reading? Do you expect an answer where the
>> person answering puts forth more effort than you were even
>> willing to make in asking?
>
> Is this enough info for help?
>
> Motherboard ID BIOS DATE: 08/26/05
> 10:36:58 VER: 08.00.10
> Asus A8S-X (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1,1 PCI-E x16,4 DDR DIMM,Gigabit LAN)
> MB Chipset SiS 756, AMD Hammer
>
> I can get more if you need it.
>
In terms of chipsets, Intel offers datasheets for download. Companies like
SIS do not.
To give some examples, these are max case temperatures for some Intel
chipset parts. The first group are Northbridges, the second are Southbridges.
ICH9 Tcase_max = 110C 4.3W (when used with no heatsink)
ICH5 115C 2.4W
This is just based on the datasheets from Intel I have on disk.
Basically, what this means is, intermediate temperatures are not likely
to exceed the maximum case temperature. A high chipset temperature,
can affect the ability to overclock (on a Northbridge) and might
affect stability. The instability might not even be temperature related, but
rather have something to do with an excessive voltage boost the motherboard
manufacturer is applying to the chipset. In any case, you might see a
stability effect (system crash), before the temp is hot enough to damage
the part.
If you see a temp like 45C, that is barely above human body temperature (37C)
and is nothing to worry about.
The main concern, is confusion in the labeling of the sensors. If you
thought a sensor was measuring case air temperature, via a thermistor
situated on the surface of the motherboard, then 45C for a case air temp is
a bit on the high side, for a well ventilated case. But it we are talking
about not a computer case air temperature, but the temperature inside
one of the chipset chips, then 45C is nothing.
65C would be sufficient to burn you, assuming you could gain access to the
top surface of the package. A human can remain in contact with a 65C surface
for a second or two, before the discomfort is too great. I've used that
fact, in the lab, as a means of guessing the temperature of parts. Also
remembering, that for small parts (ones small enough to be completely
covered by your finger), the very act of putting your finger over them,
insulates them and makes them hotter :-)
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