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Old 10-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Jason
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Default New Custom Machine won't Boot.. Please Help

Hello Everyone,

Listed below are the components for the computer I'm trying to build. I
have installed everything correctly but the motherboard POST doesn't appear
when I try starting it up. The hard drives work, dvd rom works but when the
SATA is connected it just opens then closes right away, if the SATA is
disconnected then it will stay open.

Everything should be 100% compatiable, the only question that I have been
asking myself is if the motherboard is compatiable with the memory. The
motherboard supports 1600 OC DDR3 and I purchased GSkill DDR3 1600, I'm not
sure what the OC is about.

Without the memory installed and just the motherboard and processor
something should appear on the screen during boot.. Am I correct? I think I
might possibly have a fauly motherboard. Any suggestions, I paid around
$1,700 for a system that doesn't work and I'm starting to get nervous.

Thanks,

SPECS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824009145

Monitor Replacement Only Return Policy

$319.98
($159.99 ea)

. 1

Pioneer Black Blu-Ray Combo SATA Model BDC-202BK - OEM
Item #: N82E16827129015

Limited Replacement Only Return Policy

$99.99

. 1

Thermaltake VA9003BWS Black Aluminum/1.0 mm SECC ATX Full Tower
Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811133088

Standard Return Policy

$149.99

. 1

PLEXTOR 24X DVD/CD Writer Black SATA Model PX-880SA LightScribe Support
- OEM
Item #: N82E16827249054

Standard Return Policy

$44.99

. 1

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual
Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231193

Memory Standard Return Policy

$85.99

. 2

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Internal Hard Drives - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136284

Standard Return Policy

$189.98
($94.99 ea)


.. 1

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131398

Standard Return Policy

$99.99

. 1

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-
Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103674

CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

$189.00

. 1

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80
PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006

Standard Return Policy

$119.99


. 1

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130339

VGA Replacement Only Return Policy

$134.99
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:26 PM
nobody >
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Default Re: New Custom Machine won't Boot.. Please Help

Jason wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Listed below are the components for the computer I'm trying to build. I
> have installed everything correctly but the motherboard POST doesn't appear
> when I try starting it up. The hard drives work, dvd rom works but when the
> SATA is connected it just opens then closes right away, if the SATA is
> disconnected then it will stay open.
>
> Everything should be 100% compatiable, the only question that I have been
> asking myself is if the motherboard is compatiable with the memory. The
> motherboard supports 1600 OC DDR3 and I purchased GSkill DDR3 1600, I'm not
> sure what the OC is about.
>
> Without the memory installed and just the motherboard and processor
> something should appear on the screen during boot.. Am I correct? I think I
> might possibly have a fauly motherboard. Any suggestions, I paid around
> $1,700 for a system that doesn't work and I'm starting to get nervous.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SPECS


May not be it...
If you are in the USA, Canada or any other country with 110-120 volts
"mains" power, and the switch on the back of the power supply is in the
220-240 (or similar) position, you'll get symptoms like this.

I've been bit by this twice. The thing that kept me chasing my tail was
that the drives would spin up OK.
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:17 AM
kony
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Default Re: New Custom Machine won't Boot.. Please Help

On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:26:32 -0700, "nobody >"
<usenetharvested@aol.com> wrote:

>Jason wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Listed below are the components for the computer I'm trying to build. I
>> have installed everything correctly but the motherboard POST doesn't appear
>> when I try starting it up. The hard drives work, dvd rom works but when the
>> SATA is connected it just opens then closes right away, if the SATA is
>> disconnected then it will stay open.


For the time being, disconnect everything, remove all cards
and unplug all drives except for 1 memory module, the CPU,
heatsink/fan, and video card.


>>
>> Everything should be 100% compatiable, the only question that I have been
>> asking myself is if the motherboard is compatiable with the memory. The
>> motherboard supports 1600 OC DDR3 and I purchased GSkill DDR3 1600, I'm not
>> sure what the OC is about.


It appears that technically speaking, DDR3/1333 is supported
by the chipset, but these days chipsets have wide
overclocking potential and Asus is saying that with
appropriate memory it will run at the faster 1600 and 1800
speeds.

Generally the motherboard should be first POSTing at the
default bus speed not the 1600 oc speed.

Check the sticker on the motherboard bios EEPROM, Asus'
support page reads that you need at least bios version 0203
to support that CPU. On second thought, it looks like Asus
used the smaller DIP8 bios EEPROM (just to the left of the
coin-cell battery), so the sticker might be next to it
instead of on it, or might be missing entirely.


>>
>> Without the memory installed and just the motherboard and processor
>> something should appear on the screen during boot.. Am I correct?


No, without memory you should get beeps. Memory is required
to get something on the monitor, first the video card bios
screen then the POST testing and enumeration screen, or just
the mainboard manufacturer logo screen.


>>I think I
>> might possibly have a fauly motherboard. Any suggestions, I paid around
>> $1,700 for a system that doesn't work and I'm starting to get nervous.


Just be sure to contact Newegg for an RMA before the chance
to do so has expired, they are very good about accepting
returns, in fact you don't even need to be "accepted" for an
RMA, can just fill in their online form to get one.

Most often the problem is the mainboard or PSU. Unplug the
PSU from AC power (or use the switch on the rear of it) and
use the mainboard clear CMOS jumper, then retry starting it.

Since Newegg is very fast about shipping parts, and since
you seem to have no alternate parts that are both compatible
and known working to swap in for a trial, IF you have enough
time left on the RMA return period what I would do is order
another of that motherboard right now, and get an RMA
/refund request for it now.

That way a replacement is sent to you ASAP, so if it turns
out the replacement board doesn't fix the problem, you
still have time to seek an RMA for the PSU. If time is
running out on an RMA for the PSU and you still haven't
received the replacement motherboard or had time to test it,
go ahead and request an RMA for the PSU before the chance to
do so expires, you can always just let the RMA request
expire instead of sending it to them.


By asking for an RMA/refund instead of RMA/exchange, they
may try to bill you a 15% restocking fee. However, because
you ordered a replacement of the same product (now), you can
simply call them and they will remove the 15% restock fee
and refund the entire purchase price. Usually they will
refund the shipping (to you) fee as well, if you ask them
too and tell them it was not a changed decision on the
product but rather a faulty product.

It is possible it is something else like the video card, if
you have a spare video card, even an ancient PCI video card,
try removing the present card and installing it instead,
though you may need an analog cable and monitor capability
on really old PCI video cards.

It is also possible one of the memory modules is faulty, try
each one individually, making sure AC power is turned off
when swapping them in and out. It is even possible the
board reads the SPD and trys to run them at 1600, but they
aren't stable at that speed but I think it the least likely
scenario... but the only way to be sure could be to swap
parts until you find the one swap that gets it working.



>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> SPECS

>
>May not be it...
>If you are in the USA, Canada or any other country with 110-120 volts
>"mains" power, and the switch on the back of the power supply is in the
>220-240 (or similar) position, you'll get symptoms like this.
>
>I've been bit by this twice. The thing that kept me chasing my tail was
>that the drives would spin up OK.



The particular power supply mentioned has no 110/220 switch
to flip, it will fun from either voltage automatically.



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Old 10-04-2009, 02:33 AM
GlowingBlueMist
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Default Re: New Custom Machine won't Boot.. Please Help

kony wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:26:32 -0700, "nobody >"
> <usenetharvested@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Jason wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> Listed below are the components for the computer I'm trying to
>>> build. I have installed everything correctly but the motherboard
>>> POST doesn't appear when I try starting it up. The hard drives
>>> work, dvd rom works but when the SATA is connected it just opens
>>> then closes right away, if the SATA is disconnected then it will
>>> stay open.

>
> For the time being, disconnect everything, remove all cards
> and unplug all drives except for 1 memory module, the CPU,
> heatsink/fan, and video card.
>
>
>>>
>>> Everything should be 100% compatiable, the only question that I
>>> have been asking myself is if the motherboard is compatiable with
>>> the memory. The motherboard supports 1600 OC DDR3 and I purchased
>>> GSkill DDR3 1600, I'm not sure what the OC is about.

>
> It appears that technically speaking, DDR3/1333 is supported
> by the chipset, but these days chipsets have wide
> overclocking potential and Asus is saying that with
> appropriate memory it will run at the faster 1600 and 1800
> speeds.
>
> Generally the motherboard should be first POSTing at the
> default bus speed not the 1600 oc speed.
>
> Check the sticker on the motherboard bios EEPROM, Asus'
> support page reads that you need at least bios version 0203
> to support that CPU. On second thought, it looks like Asus
> used the smaller DIP8 bios EEPROM (just to the left of the
> coin-cell battery), so the sticker might be next to it
> instead of on it, or might be missing entirely.
>
>
>>>
>>> Without the memory installed and just the motherboard and processor
>>> something should appear on the screen during boot.. Am I correct?

>
> No, without memory you should get beeps. Memory is required
> to get something on the monitor, first the video card bios
> screen then the POST testing and enumeration screen, or just
> the mainboard manufacturer logo screen.
>
>
>>> I think I
>>> might possibly have a fauly motherboard. Any suggestions, I paid
>>> around $1,700 for a system that doesn't work and I'm starting to
>>> get nervous.

>
> Just be sure to contact Newegg for an RMA before the chance
> to do so has expired, they are very good about accepting
> returns, in fact you don't even need to be "accepted" for an
> RMA, can just fill in their online form to get one.
>
> Most often the problem is the mainboard or PSU. Unplug the
> PSU from AC power (or use the switch on the rear of it) and
> use the mainboard clear CMOS jumper, then retry starting it.
>
> Since Newegg is very fast about shipping parts, and since
> you seem to have no alternate parts that are both compatible
> and known working to swap in for a trial, IF you have enough
> time left on the RMA return period what I would do is order
> another of that motherboard right now, and get an RMA
> /refund request for it now.
>
> That way a replacement is sent to you ASAP, so if it turns
> out the replacement board doesn't fix the problem, you
> still have time to seek an RMA for the PSU. If time is
> running out on an RMA for the PSU and you still haven't
> received the replacement motherboard or had time to test it,
> go ahead and request an RMA for the PSU before the chance to
> do so expires, you can always just let the RMA request
> expire instead of sending it to them.
>
>
> By asking for an RMA/refund instead of RMA/exchange, they
> may try to bill you a 15% restocking fee. However, because
> you ordered a replacement of the same product (now), you can
> simply call them and they will remove the 15% restock fee
> and refund the entire purchase price. Usually they will
> refund the shipping (to you) fee as well, if you ask them
> too and tell them it was not a changed decision on the
> product but rather a faulty product.
>
> It is possible it is something else like the video card, if
> you have a spare video card, even an ancient PCI video card,
> try removing the present card and installing it instead,
> though you may need an analog cable and monitor capability
> on really old PCI video cards.
>
> It is also possible one of the memory modules is faulty, try
> each one individually, making sure AC power is turned off
> when swapping them in and out. It is even possible the
> board reads the SPD and trys to run them at 1600, but they
> aren't stable at that speed but I think it the least likely
> scenario... but the only way to be sure could be to swap
> parts until you find the one swap that gets it working.
>
>
>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> SPECS

>>
>> May not be it...
>> If you are in the USA, Canada or any other country with 110-120 volts
>> "mains" power, and the switch on the back of the power supply is in
>> the 220-240 (or similar) position, you'll get symptoms like this.
>>
>> I've been bit by this twice. The thing that kept me chasing my tail
>> was that the drives would spin up OK.

>
>
> The particular power supply mentioned has no 110/220 switch
> to flip, it will fun from either voltage automatically.


One last thing I would add is if none of the above suggestions get the
motherboard to post or at least beep is to take it out of the chassis
entirely and try it again. Place the motherboard on something
non-conductive and see if it then works. If it does then it's time to check
for grounded screw or a missing insulating washer somewhere when the
motherboard was installed in the chassis.


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