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  #1  
Old 01-09-2008, 06:06 PM
netsurfer802@yahoo.com
 
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Default Memory Compatibility

Hi I'm trying to add on 512MB to my motherboard. I have a desktop
computer with an ASUS motherboard that currently has two PC133 3.3volt
256MB sticks in it. There is one more slot available and I'm trying
to figure out if it would be compatible with a 512MB PC100/PC133
compatible High Density memory chip. I don't know if it makes a
difference but I'm currently running Windows XP and have overclocked
it by about 8% more to 1000 MegaHertz. It has a Pentium III
processor. The website I'm thinking of buying it from says to check
the motherboard compatibily with High Density memory as opposed to Low
Density. What is the difference and how can you find out if it is?

Thanks in advanced for an answer to this.

MC
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:13 PM
Paul
 
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Default Re: Memory Compatibility

netsurfer802@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi I'm trying to add on 512MB to my motherboard. I have a desktop
> computer with an ASUS motherboard that currently has two PC133 3.3volt
> 256MB sticks in it. There is one more slot available and I'm trying
> to figure out if it would be compatible with a 512MB PC100/PC133
> compatible High Density memory chip. I don't know if it makes a
> difference but I'm currently running Windows XP and have overclocked
> it by about 8% more to 1000 MegaHertz. It has a Pentium III
> processor. The website I'm thinking of buying it from says to check
> the motherboard compatibily with High Density memory as opposed to Low
> Density. What is the difference and how can you find out if it is?
>
> Thanks in advanced for an answer to this.
>
> MC


Try looking up the motherboard on Crucial.com . How many
sticks and what maximum size do they recommend ?

It helps to mention the model of motherboard, for more
details.

Paul
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:46 PM
netsurfer802@yahoo.com
 
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Default Re: Memory Compatibility

On Jan 9, 1:13*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> netsurfer...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hi I'm trying to add on 512MB to my motherboard. *I have a desktop
> > computer with an ASUS motherboard that currently has two PC133 3.3volt
> > 256MB sticks in it. *There is one more slot available and I'm trying
> > to figure out if it would be compatible with a 512MB PC100/PC133
> > compatible High Density memory chip. *I don't know if it makes a
> > difference but I'm currently running Windows XP and have overclocked
> > it by about 8% more to 1000 MegaHertz. *It has a Pentium III
> > processor. *The website I'm thinking of buying it from says to check
> > the motherboard compatibily with High Density memory as opposed to Low
> > Density. *What is the difference and how can you find out if it is?

>
> > Thanks in advanced for an answer to this.

>
> > MC

>
> Try looking up the motherboard on Crucial.com . How many
> sticks and what maximum size do they recommend ?
>
> It helps to mention the model of motherboard, for more
> details.
>
> * * Paul


Hi, thanks for the tip about Crucial.com...I checked out the model and
verified it on the site as a CUSL2 to be the model of ASUS. It looked
like it was saying that 512MB was the maximum size it could recognize
but there seemed to be possibly an exception to this. Since I'm
running Windows it looks like the most Windows can recognize is 4GB.
I'm kind of confused as to wether there is a good exception to this
"rule" here. Should I just asssume that physically installing more
memory isn't going to improve things...or is there a good exception
here?

Michael C
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:25 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: Memory Compatibility

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:46:36 -0800 (PST),
"netsurfer802@yahoo.com" <netsurfer802@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jan 9, 1:13*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:


>Hi, thanks for the tip about Crucial.com...I checked out the model and
>verified it on the site as a CUSL2 to be the model of ASUS. It looked
>like it was saying that 512MB was the maximum size it could recognize
>but there seemed to be possibly an exception to this. Since I'm
>running Windows it looks like the most Windows can recognize is 4GB.


The max windows can recognize does not increase the max the
board can support which due to intel 815 chipset is 512MB.
Many at the time felt that this was a bit poor of intel to
limit a board from that era to only 512MB when it's
predecessors and competitive chipsets supported 768MB and
1GB or more respectively but nevertheless you are limited to
512MB total.



>I'm kind of confused as to wether there is a good exception to this
>"rule" here. Should I just asssume that physically installing more
>memory isn't going to improve things...or is there a good exception
>here?


It will either go unseen and unused or make the system fail
to POST and run. No operating system can make a chipset
address more memory, the lowest limit is always the
applicable one.

If you have the memory you could look around for another
socket 370 board with different chipset like Via Apollo Pro
(694X) or later 694T chipsets, either of which would support
all the memory. If you didn't have the memory yet I suggest
it is time to replace the board and CPU. Many consider a
Core2Duo based platform a good choice today though even a
low-end AMD Athlon 64 plus an AM2 board and 2GB of memory
would be much faster and might cost less than $130 total if
you found a good deal on the board and memory.

http://www.newegg.com might be one place to look as I
vaguely recall they had some Foxconn et al. AM2 boards for
under $50 after a rebate, perhaps some of which had
integrated video to keep costs down by avoiding having to
purchase a PCI Express video card.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:52 PM
sdlomi2
 
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Default Re: Memory Compatibility


<netsurfer802@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7e6159b4-9d4e-4593-872b-eaa8cf79fdc9@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 9, 1:13 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> netsurfer...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hi I'm trying to add on 512MB to my motherboard. I have a desktop
> > computer with an ASUS motherboard that currently has two PC133 3.3volt
> > 256MB sticks in it. There is one more slot available and I'm trying
> > to figure out if it would be compatible with a 512MB PC100/PC133
> > compatible High Density memory chip. I don't know if it makes a
> > difference but I'm currently running Windows XP and have overclocked
> > it by about 8% more to 1000 MegaHertz. It has a Pentium III
> > processor. The website I'm thinking of buying it from says to check
> > the motherboard compatibily with High Density memory as opposed to Low
> > Density. What is the difference and how can you find out if it is?

>
> > Thanks in advanced for an answer to this.


Hi, Netsur., I'd be very skeptical of that high-density ram. IIRC, most
mobos will run low-density, but a mere few (unless a special-purpose
server-board) will handle high-density. That's why Ebay sells high-den at
such a low price as compared to low-den. If your mobo would handle it, the
owner's manual should spell it out in no uncertain terms. If unclear, I'd
stay away.
HTH & good luck, s


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Old 01-12-2008, 02:34 AM
kony
 
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Default Re: Memory Compatibility

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:52:18 -0500, "sdlomi2"
<daniels_sam@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
><netsurfer802@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7e6159b4-9d4e-4593-872b-eaa8cf79fdc9@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 9, 1:13 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> netsurfer...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > Hi I'm trying to add on 512MB to my motherboard. I have a desktop
>> > computer with an ASUS motherboard that currently has two PC133 3.3volt
>> > 256MB sticks in it. There is one more slot available and I'm trying
>> > to figure out if it would be compatible with a 512MB PC100/PC133
>> > compatible High Density memory chip. I don't know if it makes a
>> > difference but I'm currently running Windows XP and have overclocked
>> > it by about 8% more to 1000 MegaHertz. It has a Pentium III
>> > processor. The website I'm thinking of buying it from says to check
>> > the motherboard compatibily with High Density memory as opposed to Low
>> > Density. What is the difference and how can you find out if it is?

>>
>> > Thanks in advanced for an answer to this.

>
> Hi, Netsur., I'd be very skeptical of that high-density ram. IIRC, most
>mobos will run low-density, but a mere few (unless a special-purpose
>server-board) will handle high-density.


Not necessarily true. At the beginning of the P3 era few if
any chipsets did, but by the end all contemporary chipsets
did.


>That's why Ebay sells high-den at
>such a low price as compared to low-den.


Actually it's because it only takes half as many chips per
capacity.

> If your mobo would handle it, the
>owner's manual should spell it out in no uncertain terms. If unclear, I'd
>stay away.


Not necessarily, but it also depends on exactly what the
module is as "high density" is only a contrasting term not
specifics of the module.
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Old 01-12-2008, 10:17 PM
sdlomi2
 
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Default Re: Memory Compatibility


"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:im9go3dff7imknjlir0rlq3091kitoqmna@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:52:18 -0500, "sdlomi2"
> <daniels_sam@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>><netsurfer802@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:7e6159b4-9d4e-4593-872b-eaa8cf79fdc9@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>>On Jan 9, 1:13 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>> netsurfer...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> > Hi I'm trying to add on 512MB to my motherboard. I have a desktop
>>> > computer with an ASUS motherboard that currently has two PC133 3.3volt
>>> > 256MB sticks in it. There is one more slot available and I'm trying
>>> > to figure out if it would be compatible with a 512MB PC100/PC133
>>> > compatible High Density memory chip. I don't know if it makes a
>>> > difference but I'm currently running Windows XP and have overclocked
>>> > it by about 8% more to 1000 MegaHertz. It has a Pentium III
>>> > processor. The website I'm thinking of buying it from says to check
>>> > the motherboard compatibily with High Density memory as opposed to Low
>>> > Density. What is the difference and how can you find out if it is?
>>>
>>> > Thanks in advanced for an answer to this.

>>
>> Hi, Netsur., I'd be very skeptical of that high-density ram. IIRC,
>> most
>>mobos will run low-density, but a mere few (unless a special-purpose
>>server-board) will handle high-density.

>
> Not necessarily true. At the beginning of the P3 era few if
> any chipsets did, but by the end all contemporary chipsets
> did.
>
>
>>That's why Ebay sells high-den at
>>such a low price as compared to low-den.

>
> Actually it's because it only takes half as many chips per
> capacity.
>
>> If your mobo would handle it, the
>>owner's manual should spell it out in no uncertain terms. If unclear, I'd
>>stay away.

>
> Not necessarily, but it also depends on exactly what the
> module is as "high density" is only a contrasting term not
> specifics of the module.


Looks like I'm wrong on 3 out of 3. Good thing I did not mention the 4th
one, huh?
While I'm communicating with one who sounds like he'd know these answers,
does the same hold true with DDR modules? And what mobos or systems would
it likely 'fit'? My mind was zeroed on a DDR/1-gig stick with Micron, Cas2
(iirc) chips that I recently bought--not ddr2. It would not work in my
computer I bought it for or for any of the other 9 computers in our extended
household. I reckon it's obvious by my above "missing 3 strikes on 3
pitches" that I've become gunshy and want noone else to err as I did. I'd
like to sell this module--however cheap it is--but want to be sure the buyer
gets something he can use.
Thanks for your help. Sounds like you'd know. s


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Old 01-13-2008, 09:05 AM
kony
 
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:17:01 -0500, "sdlomi2"
<daniels_sam@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>


> While I'm communicating with one who sounds like he'd know these answers,
>does the same hold true with DDR modules? And what mobos or systems would
>it likely 'fit'? My mind was zeroed on a DDR/1-gig stick with Micron, Cas2
>(iirc) chips that I recently bought--not ddr2. It would not work in my
>computer I bought it for or for any of the other 9 computers in our extended
>household. I reckon it's obvious by my above "missing 3 strikes on 3
>pitches" that I've become gunshy and want noone else to err as I did. I'd
>like to sell this module--however cheap it is--but want to be sure the buyer
>gets something he can use.
> Thanks for your help. Sounds like you'd know. s
>



The only way you can really sell effectively is to list all
the specs you can find and let the buyer make an informed
choice. If the buyer is on the fence you could volunteer
to research the specific board and chipset yourself but
after doing that the value of your time has raised the
inherant cost of selling the memory.
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:38 PM
sdlomi2
 
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:17:01 -0500, "sdlomi2"
> <daniels_sam@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>

>
>> While I'm communicating with one who sounds like he'd know these
>> answers,
>>does the same hold true with DDR modules? And what mobos or systems would
>>it likely 'fit'? My mind was zeroed on a DDR/1-gig stick with Micron,
>>Cas2
>>(iirc) chips that I recently bought--not ddr2. It would not work in my
>>computer I bought it for or for any of the other 9 computers in our
>>extended
>>household. I reckon it's obvious by my above "missing 3 strikes on 3
>>pitches" that I've become gunshy and want noone else to err as I did. I'd
>>like to sell this module--however cheap it is--but want to be sure the
>>buyer
>>gets something he can use.
>> Thanks for your help. Sounds like you'd know. s
>>

>
>
> The only way you can really sell effectively is to list all
> the specs you can find and let the buyer make an informed
> choice. If the buyer is on the fence you could volunteer
> to research the specific board and chipset yourself but
> after doing that the value of your time has raised the
> inherant cost of selling the memory.


Thx, Kony; it's just that I hate to see something lying around, not
helping anyone, and knowing all the time that someone, somewhere, could
use/needs it.
S


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Old 01-14-2008, 08:36 AM
kony
 
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:38:56 -0500, "sdlomi2"
<daniels_sam@bellsouth.net> wrote:


>>>does the same hold true with DDR modules? And what mobos or systems would
>>>it likely 'fit'? My mind was zeroed on a DDR/1-gig stick with Micron,
>>>Cas2
>>>(iirc) chips that I recently bought--not ddr2. It would not work in my
>>>computer I bought it for or for any of the other 9 computers in our
>>>extended
>>>household. I reckon it's obvious by my above "missing 3 strikes on 3
>>>pitches" that I've become gunshy and want noone else to err as I did. I'd
>>>like to sell this module--however cheap it is--but want to be sure the
>>>buyer
>>>gets something he can use.
>>> Thanks for your help. Sounds like you'd know. s
>>>

>>
>>
>> The only way you can really sell effectively is to list all
>> the specs you can find and let the buyer make an informed
>> choice. If the buyer is on the fence you could volunteer
>> to research the specific board and chipset yourself but
>> after doing that the value of your time has raised the
>> inherant cost of selling the memory.

>
> Thx, Kony; it's just that I hate to see something lying around, not
>helping anyone, and knowing all the time that someone, somewhere, could
>use/needs it.



You could always build a system with it? Socket 754 or 939
boards can sometimes be found fairly cheap as well as lower
end Athlon 64 processors (that overclock reasonably well if
you cared to do so). You might not want it for your primary
system but as a secondary system or fileserver/etc?

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