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  #31  
Old 05-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Robert Heiling
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

GT wrote:
>
> >> >> A hard drive is a binary storage device. Windows is
> >> >> measuring correctly. Until a hard drive is no longer a
> >> >> binary storage device, it is always "proper" to measure it
> >> >> as such.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are taking some trival knowledge about decimal versus
> >> >> binary and leaping to an unfounded conclusion.
> >> >
> >> >Kony, we have been here before and didn't get anywhere then! I think we
> >> >both
> >> >have better things to do!
> >>
> >> Still doesn't change the fact that a hard drive is a binary
> >> storage device. You can't arbitrarily count how many apples
> >> you have when staring at a bushel of oranges.
> >>
> >> The day a hard drive becomes a decimal system based-storage
> >> device, you will be correct.

> >
> > It's a shame that you've chosen to blow so much of your credibility on
> > this
> > topic. Nevertheless, being so very wrong on this one does cast your
> > opinion on
> > other some matters in doubt.

>
> I must jump to Kony's defence here. This debate is more one of opinion vs
> opinion, which is why it is never resolved.


Your opinion can't change the reality of the matter.

> Whilst he and I disagree on this matter,


What is there to disagree about? Mankind used those terms for centuries and
didn't argue about them. Then in the latter part of the twentieth century, Bill
Gates and a few others found it convenient to use those same terms for a
different purpose. Most of us in the field recognize what we're dealing with and
understand the situation. We see no need to conjure up a big argument over
something that is easily understood.

> he has helped me and many others with some detailed and very helpful
> responses in other posts. Just because we disagree with him does not make
> either his depth of his knowledge of PC hardware or his willingness to help
> others any less impressive


He has (he's not alone) manufactured an artificial argument and insists that he
is right right right. It's that need to be *right* that shows up elsewhere and
damages his credibility.

> Of course, he might consider that my very response here (in his defence)
> lowers his credibility, or he might just have better things to do with his
> time!


I'll let him make that decision.
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  #32  
Old 05-18-2007, 12:52 AM
kony
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:04:30 +0100, "GT"
<ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote:


>> The day a hard drive becomes a decimal system based-storage
>> device, you will be correct.

>
>You are contradicting yourself -


Nope, you just can't accept the fact that it's a binary
storage device and as such, how much it stores is binary.
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  #33  
Old 05-18-2007, 12:53 AM
kony
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:19:34 -0700, Robert Heiling
<robheil@comcast.net> wrote:


>It's a shame that you've chosen to blow so much of your credibility on this
>topic. Nevertheless, being so very wrong on this one does cast your opinion on
>other some matters in doubt.
>
>Bob


Nice try but no cigar. It's a binary storage device.
Nothing to argue about.

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  #34  
Old 05-18-2007, 12:54 AM
kony
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:00:24 -0700, Robert Heiling
<robheil@comcast.net> wrote:


>Your opinion can't change the reality of the matter.
>



Nor can yours. It'll be a binary storage device regardless
of our opinions.
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  #35  
Old 05-18-2007, 01:21 AM
Robert Heiling
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

kony wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:00:24 -0700, Robert Heiling
> <robheil@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Your opinion can't change the reality of the matter.
> >

>
> Nor can yours.


That goes without saying.

> It'll be a binary storage device regardless
> of our opinions.


You can do the counting in binary or decimal or in any other system as you
choose. None of that changes the number of bytes on the device.
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  #36  
Old 05-18-2007, 09:40 AM
GT
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:umqp439v1e0ud232794qvap0f135cb4vv6@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:19:34 -0700, Robert Heiling
> <robheil@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>It's a shame that you've chosen to blow so much of your credibility on
>>this
>>topic. Nevertheless, being so very wrong on this one does cast your
>>opinion on
>>other some matters in doubt.
>>
>>Bob

>
> Nice try but no cigar. It's a binary storage device.
> Nothing to argue about.


Why do you keep repeating that - we all know and agree it is a binary
storage device. The problem is the way you count the units - you keep on
adding an extra 24 for every 1000 units you count.

Tell us Kony, when you count things using your fingers, when you reach 10,
do you add an extra 1 or 2 for good measure?

How many units of information something can hold is completely independant
to what that information is, so quantity can be measured in any number
base - that is the part you are missing.


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  #37  
Old 05-18-2007, 09:40 AM
GT
 
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Default Re: What percentage must be alloted to primary partition.

>>> The day a hard drive becomes a decimal system based-storage
>>> device, you will be correct.

>>
>>You are contradicting yourself -

>
> Nope, you just can't accept the fact that it's a binary
> storage device and as such, how much it stores is binary.


Already told you that we are all in agreement that a hard disk stores binary
numbers.

Kony, here is your self-contradiction - you insist (wrongly) that we must
count hard drive space in binary. So why do you write 465GB - that is not a
binary number!!

You didn't answer my question about dice - they have 6 states, so do you
have to count a quantity of dice in base 6?


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