ok my USBs are not working and they haven't been working for some time
now. i have been to several forums and talked to several savvy people.
nothing has worked. At this point i have no idea if it is a hardware
issue or a software issue. i know this is a really vague post but, i
don't know what else to do. if you guys could post some possible
problems/solutions, no matter how simple or complex that would be a
big help.
> ok my USBs are not working and they haven't been working for some time
> now. i have been to several forums and talked to several savvy people.
> nothing has worked. At this point i have no idea if it is a hardware
> issue or a software issue. i know this is a really vague post but, i
> don't know what else to do. if you guys could post some possible
> problems/solutions, no matter how simple or complex that would be a
> big help.
>
> thanks in advance
Well, I'm not all that savvy, and probably won't be much help.
Assuming you've tried everything including deleting all your USB devices and
restarting the machine to rediscover them.
If that doesn't work, then try upgrading drivers.
If you'd realized they'd stopped working soon enough, you could've restored
to a previous state or remembered what may have changed during the period
they stopped working (hardware/software/storms etc...)
"winston19842005" <bjjlyates@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> On 10/19/07 6:21 PM, in article
> 1192832479.918667.19150@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.c om, "rob"
> <rob1101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ok my USBs are not working and they haven't been working for some time
>> now. i have been to several forums and talked to several savvy people.
>> nothing has worked. At this point i have no idea if it is a hardware
>> issue or a software issue. i know this is a really vague post but, i
>> don't know what else to do. if you guys could post some possible
>> problems/solutions, no matter how simple or complex that would be a
>> big help.
>>
>> thanks in advance
>
> Well, I'm not all that savvy, and probably won't be much help.
> Assuming you've tried everything including deleting all your USB devices
> and
> restarting the machine to rediscover them.
>
> If that doesn't work, then try upgrading drivers.
>
>
> "winston19842005" <bjjlyates@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:C33EA99B.5BEC%bjjlyates@bellsouth.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/19/07 6:21 PM, in article
>> 1192832479.918667.19150@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.c om, "rob"
>> <rob1101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ok my USBs are not working and they haven't been working for some time
>>> now. i have been to several forums and talked to several savvy people.
>>> nothing has worked. At this point i have no idea if it is a hardware
>>> issue or a software issue. i know this is a really vague post but, i
>>> don't know what else to do. if you guys could post some possible
>>> problems/solutions, no matter how simple or complex that would be a
>>> big help.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance
>>
>> Well, I'm not all that savvy, and probably won't be much help.
>> Assuming you've tried everything including deleting all your USB devices
>> and
>> restarting the machine to rediscover them.
>>
>> If that doesn't work, then try upgrading drivers.
>>
>
> And if that doesn't work try this (if you haven't already)
> A computer that is running Windows XP cannot detect a USB thumb
> drive..........
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/925196
Hmm. Just tried attaching an old digital camera to my wife's Vista computer
this morning.
In normal mode, Vista id'ed it as a "Coach" camera - it isn't.
So I put the camera in "PC Disk mode" where it should show up as a drive -
it doesn't.
Funny you get the little noise when you plug it in and unplug it. But it
isn't seen anywhere (Windows Picture viewer or Device manager).
So, I wonder if this issue you report might also be a Vista issue - never
had trouble with it detecting my thumb drive - that is I seem to remember
actually trying it...
I had to plug it into my Mac to upload the pictures (in disk mode it
auto-mounts). I skipped the Mac because I thought the camera needed a
"powered" usb port, and the hub I had wasn't - but it worked...
rob wrote:
> ok my USBs are not working and they haven't been working for some time
> now. i have been to several forums and talked to several savvy people.
> nothing has worked. At this point i have no idea if it is a hardware
> issue or a software issue. i know this is a really vague post but, i
> don't know what else to do. if you guys could post some possible
> problems/solutions, no matter how simple or complex that would be a
> big help.
>
> thanks in advance
The ICH5 has a known defect. A number of people have had USB
hardware failures, and you could have one of those. The failure
can be small (loss of USB at the physical interface level, yet
the logic blocks still show in Device Manager) or a big failure,
where the Southbridge is damanged.
I'd reach for my trusty Knoppix boot CD, and try booting into
Linux, and then see if I could get a USB device working
there (or at least visible). Using an alternate OS, means
different software is attempting to use the hardware.
You can also try resetting the USB stack in Windows, but
given that you have an ICH5, I'd try booting from an alternate
OS and see if there is anything still alive or not. If you
can see any USB devices in Linux, then return to Windows and
work on the USB stack. (The home page for Knoppix is at Knopper.net
- the Linux ISO is a 700MB download, and you burn it to a CD.
It boots without needing to write to a hard drive, which makes
it a "portable" test tool. You can try a tool like "lsusb" as
a means of probing for USB devices.)
The equivalent of lsusb in Windows, is here (UVCView). Use
the download link on the right. When a USB device is plugged in,
you should be able to see its config info listed.
On Oct 19, 7:22 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> rob wrote:
> > ok my USBs are not working and they haven't been working for some time
> > now. i have been to several forums and talked to several savvy people.
> > nothing has worked. At this point i have no idea if it is a hardware
> > issue or a software issue. i know this is a really vague post but, i
> > don't know what else to do. if you guys could post some possible
> > problems/solutions, no matter how simple or complex that would be a
> > big help.
>
> > thanks in advance
>
> The ICH5 has a known defect. A number of people have had USB
> hardware failures, and you could have one of those. The failure
> can be small (loss of USB at the physical interface level, yet
> the logic blocks still show in Device Manager) or a big failure,
> where the Southbridge is damanged.
>
> http://onfinite.com/libraries/179057/2ea.jpg
>
> I'd reach for my trusty Knoppix boot CD, and try booting into
> Linux, and then see if I could get a USB device working
> there (or at least visible). Using an alternate OS, means
> different software is attempting to use the hardware.
>
> You can also try resetting the USB stack in Windows, but
> given that you have an ICH5, I'd try booting from an alternate
> OS and see if there is anything still alive or not. If you
> can see any USB devices in Linux, then return to Windows and
> work on the USB stack. (The home page for Knoppix is at Knopper.net
> - the Linux ISO is a 700MB download, and you burn it to a CD.
> It boots without needing to write to a hard drive, which makes
> it a "portable" test tool. You can try a tool like "lsusb" as
> a means of probing for USB devices.)
>
> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/lsusb8.html (lsusb for Linux)
>
> The equivalent of lsusb in Windows, is here (UVCView). Use
> the download link on the right. When a USB device is plugged in,
> you should be able to see its config info listed.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...VCViewdwn.mspx
>
> You can add USB ports to your computer, with a PCI USB2 card.
>
> Paul
wow thanks for the great post. i do have a pci card with two usb ports
but those also do not work. all of the USBs have power because they
will charge my brothers ipod, and i can see a quick flash on my thumb
drive. i installed ubuntu but they still do not work
>
> wow thanks for the great post. i do have a pci card with two usb ports
> but those also do not work. all of the USBs have power because they
> will charge my brothers ipod, and i can see a quick flash on my thumb
> drive. i installed ubuntu but they still do not work
>
It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
was broken.
About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
CMOS battery path.
That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
(boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:07:36 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
>rob wrote:
>
>>
>> wow thanks for the great post. i do have a pci card with two usb ports
>> but those also do not work. all of the USBs have power because they
>> will charge my brothers ipod, and i can see a quick flash on my thumb
>> drive. i installed ubuntu but they still do not work
>>
>
>It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
>If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
>I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
>was broken.
>
>About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
>in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
>listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
>procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
>That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
>CMOS battery path.
>
>That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
>(boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
>
> Paul
Reading Paul's post reminded me that a few months ago I had the same
problem with USB's - tried everything - last thing to try was clearing
motherboard CMOS back to factory defaults, and that fixed the problem!
Gary
On Oct 21, 1:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>
> It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
> If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
> I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
> was broken.
>
> About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
> in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
> listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
> procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
> That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
> CMOS battery path.
>
> That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
> (boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
>
> Paul
i took out the bios battery and it did set it to defaults but, neither
ubuntu 7.10 or Windows XP could detect it.
rob wrote:
> On Oct 21, 1:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
>> If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
>> I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
>> was broken.
>>
>> About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
>> in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
>> listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
>> procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
>> That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
>> CMOS battery path.
>>
>> That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
>> (boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
>>
>> Paul
>
> i took out the bios battery and it did set it to defaults but, neither
> ubuntu 7.10 or Windows XP could detect it.
>
So when booted into Ubuntu, and you use the "lspci" program,
you cannot see the PCI USB card ?
What about the LAN controller ? Does it sit on the PCI bus ?
Does "lspci" list it ? (Realtek 8100C)
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