On Oct 22, 6:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> rob wrote:
> > On Oct 21, 1:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> >> It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
> >> If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
> >> I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
> >> was broken.
>
> >> About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
> >> in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
> >> listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
> >> procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
> >> That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
> >> CMOS battery path.
>
> >> That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
> >> (boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
>
> >> Paul
>
> > i took out the bios battery and it did set it to defaults but, neither
> > ubuntu 7.10 or Windows XP could detect it.
>
> So when booted into Ubuntu, and you use the "lspci" program,
> you cannot see the PCI USB card ?
>
> What about the LAN controller ? Does it sit on the PCI bus ?
> Does "lspci" list it ? (Realtek 8100C)
>
> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...del=848P_Neo-V
>
> Paul
this is what i got from using lspci
[robert@robert-desktop:~]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/
Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP
Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2
EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK
[Radeon X800]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 [Radeon X800]
(Secondary)
02:02.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems V.92 56K WinModem (rev
02)
02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
rob wrote:
> On Oct 22, 6:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> rob wrote:
>>> On Oct 21, 1:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>>> It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
>>>> If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
>>>> I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
>>>> was broken.
>>>> About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
>>>> in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
>>>> listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
>>>> procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
>>>> That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
>>>> CMOS battery path.
>>>> That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
>>>> (boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
>>>> Paul
>>> i took out the bios battery and it did set it to defaults but, neither
>>> ubuntu 7.10 or Windows XP could detect it.
>> So when booted into Ubuntu, and you use the "lspci" program,
>> you cannot see the PCI USB card ?
>>
>> What about the LAN controller ? Does it sit on the PCI bus ?
>> Does "lspci" list it ? (Realtek 8100C)
>>
>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...del=848P_Neo-V
>>
>> Paul
>
> this is what i got from using lspci
>
> [robert@robert-desktop:~]$ lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/
> Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP
> Controller (rev 02)
> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2
> EHCI Controller (rev 02)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> Interface Bridge (rev 02)
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> Controller (rev 02)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> Controller (rev 02)
> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK
> [Radeon X800]
> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 [Radeon X800]
> (Secondary)
> 02:02.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems V.92 56K WinModem (rev
> 02)
> 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
>
So your add-in PCI USB card is missing.
I do see an RTL-8139 family Ethernet device, and that would be sitting on
the PCI bus.
PCI bus is working, but separate USB card is not.
I can also see the five ICH5 USB entries, in all their glory, but if the I/O
is burned, then the logic blocks are isolated at the plug end.
Have you tried the PCI USB card in another PCI slot ?
Note that, for slots or connectors on a motherboard, that have never
been used, there can be a bit of "manufacturing residue". After the solder
step, the boards are washed. At one time, this was done with solvents.
Today's "green" processes try to use plain water. But there can still be
a film left on some connectors. My recommended procedure for cleaning,
is to insert and remove the card or device five times, into the dirty
connector. By relying on the wipe action inherent in the connector pins,
you get some cleaning effect, without the damage caused by using pencil
erasers (which can remove the thin gold plate, and expose the less noble
metals underneath).
On Oct 25, 7:05 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> rob wrote:
> > On Oct 22, 6:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> >> rob wrote:
> >>> On Oct 21, 1:07 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> >>>> It's funny that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to use the PCI USB card.
> >>>> If you use something like "lspci", can the card be seen there ?
> >>>> I would think it would be hard to boot, if the PCI bus itself
> >>>> was broken.
> >>>> About all I can think of, to try next, is record all your settings
> >>>> in the various BIOS screens, then follow the CMOS reset procedure
> >>>> listed in your manual. Usually, the most important step in that
> >>>> procedure, is unplug the computer, before you try to clear the CMOS.
> >>>> That avoids a certain problem which damages the ORing diodes in the
> >>>> CMOS battery path.
> >>>> That will reset to BIOS defaults, meaning any custom BIOS settings
> >>>> (boot order etc), will have to be set up again.
> >>>> Paul
> >>> i took out the bios battery and it did set it to defaults but, neither
> >>> ubuntu 7.10 or Windows XP could detect it.
> >> So when booted into Ubuntu, and you use the "lspci" program,
> >> you cannot see the PCI USB card ?
>
> >> What about the LAN controller ? Does it sit on the PCI bus ?
> >> Does "lspci" list it ? (Realtek 8100C)
>
> >>http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...del=848P_Neo-V
>
> >> Paul
>
> > this is what i got from using lspci
>
> > [robert@robert-desktop:~]$ lspci
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/
> > Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
> > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> > UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
> > 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> > UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
> > 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> > UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
> > 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> > UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
> > 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2
> > EHCI Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
> > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> > Interface Bridge (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> > (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK
> > [Radeon X800]
> > 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 [Radeon X800]
> > (Secondary)
> > 02:02.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems V.92 56K WinModem (rev
> > 02)
> > 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
>
> So your add-in PCI USB card is missing.
>
> I do see an RTL-8139 family Ethernet device, and that would be sitting on
> the PCI bus.
>
> PCI bus is working, but separate USB card is not.
>
> I can also see the five ICH5 USB entries, in all their glory, but if the I/O
> is burned, then the logic blocks are isolated at the plug end.
>
> Have you tried the PCI USB card in another PCI slot ?
>
> Note that, for slots or connectors on a motherboard, that have never
> been used, there can be a bit of "manufacturing residue". After the solder
> step, the boards are washed. At one time, this was done with solvents.
> Today's "green" processes try to use plain water. But there can still be
> a film left on some connectors. My recommended procedure for cleaning,
> is to insert and remove the card or device five times, into the dirty
> connector. By relying on the wipe action inherent in the connector pins,
> you get some cleaning effect, without the damage caused by using pencil
> erasers (which can remove the thin gold plate, and expose the less noble
> metals underneath).
>
> Paul
well upon further inspection i realized that the card was actually a D-
Bracket and it just plugs strait in the MOBO. Sorry for the
misinformation. should i go out and buy a PCI USB Card?
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:21 -0700, rob <rob1101@gmail.com>
wrote:
>well upon further inspection i realized that the card was actually a D-
>Bracket and it just plugs strait in the MOBO. Sorry for the
>misinformation. should i go out and buy a PCI USB Card?
That would be the easiest solution.
Something else you might try is going into bios menus and
examining the USB related entries, making sure USB is
enabled and if you have any legacy USB settings you might
enable those towards the end of seeing if you could boot the
system to a (bootable) USB drive or at least if the system
detects it as a device during POST enumeration.
>
> well upon further inspection i realized that the card was actually a D-
> Bracket and it just plugs strait in the MOBO. Sorry for the
> misinformation. should i go out and buy a PCI USB Card?
>
well i bought a USB card and everything works perfectly. i forgot how
much i missed USBs on my desktop. i would just like to say thank you
to everyone, especially Paul. you guys were a big help and i really
appreciate it
Re: USBs NOT working 
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