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Old 01-15-2008, 01:21 PM
gecko
 
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Default Twisted cable = Crossover cable?

Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.

Thanks

gecko
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:39 PM
Halmyre
 
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Default Re: Twisted cable = Crossover cable?

In article <2ocpo350jjavti4l6ipb97u1mcn39o2js3@4ax.com>, alpha@olympus.net
says...
> Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.
>
> Thanks
>
> gecko
>


Not necessarily. Twisted cable just means that the wires wind round each
other in a spiral. A crossover cable has the connections reversed at one of
the ends, so that you can, for example, connect two PCs 'back-to-back' via
their network cards.

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Old 01-15-2008, 02:09 PM
GT
 
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Default Re: Twisted cable = Crossover cable?

"gecko" <alpha@olympus.net> wrote in message
news:2ocpo350jjavti4l6ipb97u1mcn39o2js3@4ax.com...
> Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.


No - two terms to do with cabling, but different meanings:

Twisted cable means the cable that you see contains several small wires that
are twisted round each other inside the outer casing.

Crossover cable is a way of wiring the end connectors on the cable so that
the cable can be used to connect 2 client devices together. ie. a crossover
cable can be used to connect 1 PC to another PC directly. This is the
opposite as a 'normal', or 'straight' cable, which is used to connect a PC
to a router, hub, switch or other such network device.


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Old 01-15-2008, 02:32 PM
Joel
 
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Default Re: Twisted cable = Crossover cable?

gecko <alpha@olympus.net> wrote:

> Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.


The problem that we may not know exactly what you have in mind. So I
guess we may have to go for something like.

Twisted Cable (example)

A -> A
B -> B
C -> F <=- not straight from PIN-C to PIN-C
D -> D
E -> E

Crossover (from one device to other)

PC -> Router (usually straight cable?)
Router -> Printer (usually twisted cable?)
Router -> Modem (usually twisted cable?)
Router -> Hub (twisted or Straight?)

Also, Parallel and even USB cable have 2 different types.

> Thanks
>
> gecko

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Old 01-15-2008, 04:22 PM
gecko
 
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Default Re: Re: Twisted cable = Crossover cable? Thanks

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:32:58 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

> The problem that we may not know exactly what you have in mind. So I
>guess we may have to go for something like.
>
>Twisted Cable (example)
>
>A -> A
>B -> B
>C -> F <=- not straight from PIN-C to PIN-C
>D -> D
>E -> E
>
>Crossover (from one device to other)
>
>PC -> Router (usually straight cable?)
>Router -> Printer (usually twisted cable?)
>Router -> Modem (usually twisted cable?)
>Router -> Hub (twisted or Straight?)
>
> Also, Parallel and even USB cable have 2 different types.
>



Thanks

Gecko
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:11 PM
GlowingBlueMist
 
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"gecko" <alpha@olympus.net> wrote in message
news:2ocpo350jjavti4l6ipb97u1mcn39o2js3@4ax.com...
> Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.
>
> Thanks
>
> gecko


You might find this link of value to you as it shows you how to
identify/make Ethernet cables be they cross-over or straight-through.

http://www.mae.ufl.edu/sysinfo/network_cables.htm


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Old 01-15-2008, 06:51 PM
Joel
 
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gecko <alpha@olympus.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:32:58 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem that we may not know exactly what you have in mind. So I
> >guess we may have to go for something like.
> >
> >Twisted Cable (example)
> >
> >A -> A
> >B -> B
> >C -> F <=- not straight from PIN-C to PIN-C
> >D -> D
> >E -> E
> >
> >Crossover (from one device to other)
> >
> >PC -> Router (usually straight cable?)
> >Router -> Printer (usually twisted cable?)
> >Router -> Modem (usually twisted cable?)
> >Router -> Hub (twisted or Straight?)
> >
> > Also, Parallel and even USB cable have 2 different types.
> >

>
>
> Thanks
>
> Gecko


As I mentioned that it's my wild guess of what you mean by "crossover"
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:55 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: Twisted cable = Crossover cable?

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:32:58 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
wrote:

>gecko <alpha@olympus.net> wrote:
>
>> Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.

>
> The problem that we may not know exactly what you have in mind. So I
>guess we may have to go for something like.
>
>Twisted Cable (example)
>
>A -> A
>B -> B
>C -> F <=- not straight from PIN-C to PIN-C
>D -> D
>E -> E
>
>Crossover (from one device to other)
>
>PC -> Router (usually straight cable?)
>Router -> Printer (usually twisted cable?)
>Router -> Modem (usually twisted cable?)
>Router -> Hub (twisted or Straight?)
>


Unless either (port) end is gigabit in which case a
crossover cable is not needed.

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Old 01-15-2008, 10:47 PM
Joel
 
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kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:32:58 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >gecko <alpha@olympus.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Are they the same? For CAT5 that is.

> >
> > The problem that we may not know exactly what you have in mind. So I
> >guess we may have to go for something like.
> >
> >Twisted Cable (example)
> >
> >A -> A
> >B -> B
> >C -> F <=- not straight from PIN-C to PIN-C
> >D -> D
> >E -> E
> >
> >Crossover (from one device to other)
> >
> >PC -> Router (usually straight cable?)
> >Router -> Printer (usually twisted cable?)
> >Router -> Modem (usually twisted cable?)
> >Router -> Hub (twisted or Straight?)
> >

>
> Unless either (port) end is gigabit in which case a
> crossover cable is not needed.


I dunno, but right now I just think that Crossover is pretty much like
straight-cable. And that I learned many years ago when I tried to extend
the parallel cable for my printer, that I found out the "twisted" &
"straight" cable.

Twisted + Straight = normal
Twisted + Twisted = srcewed up
Straight + Straight = if not twisted cable required

Then few years ago it happened to the USB device (Portable Storage without
built-in Memory Card Reader) with USB connecter to connect to an external
Memory Card Reader. After I returned the device to exchange to other, I
found out that it requires a special USB cable between Portable-Storage to
Memory Card Reader to work.

And I just learn from error <bg>
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