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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
penang@catholic.org
 
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Default TFT LCD - a step backward ?

In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
problem.

Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.

To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
it !

Darn ! !

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
Lionel
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

On 26 Mar 2007 21:27:15 -0700, penang@catholic.org wrote:

>In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
>there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
>problem.
>
>Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
>it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>
>To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
>TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
>them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
>everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
>it !


I used to fix 3-4 dead LCD backlights a week. It's fiddly, but not all
that difficult.

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
paulmd@efn.org
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

On Mar 26, 9:27 pm, pen...@catholic.org wrote:
> In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
> there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
> problem.
>
> Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
> it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>
> To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
> TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
> them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
> everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
> it !
>


Oh yes you can fix them. Find a replacement backlight. Taking apart
the screen is a bit tricky (Ok sometimes a lot tricky), but it can be
done.


> Darn ! !



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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
Pongo Potts
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?


<penang@catholic.org> wrote in message
news:1174969635.510350.89270@n76g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
> there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
> problem.
>
> Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
> it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>
> To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
> TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
> them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
> everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
> it !
>
> Darn ! !
>


some repairer you are, can't fix a simple backlight.


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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
James Sweet
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

penang@catholic.org wrote:
> In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
> there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
> problem.
>
> Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
> it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>
> To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
> TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
> them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
> everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
> it !
>
> Darn ! !
>



Well it's not as if anyone gets the CRT monitors repaired anymore
anyway, everything is so cheap and disposable and I suspect it will
continue that way unless disposal costs rise significantly. Also many of
the most common faults with TFT monitors can be repaired, I usually see
dead power supplies or bad backlight inverters or tubes.
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
Lionel
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:06:58 GMT, James Sweet <jamessweet@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>penang@catholic.org wrote:
>> In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
>> there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
>> problem.
>>
>> Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
>> it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>>
>> To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
>> TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
>> them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
>> everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
>> it !
>>
>> Darn ! !
>>

>
>
>Well it's not as if anyone gets the CRT monitors repaired anymore
>anyway, everything is so cheap and disposable and I suspect it will
>continue that way unless disposal costs rise significantly. Also many of
>the most common faults with TFT monitors can be repaired, I usually see
>dead power supplies or bad backlight inverters or tubes.


Yep. All of which are cheap & easy to swap out. (Except for the tubes,
which require a fairly delicate touch.)

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:49 PM
©rkba@ca.rkba.cid
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

On 26 Mar 2007 21:27:15 -0700, penang@catholic.org wrote:

|>In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
|>there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
|>problem.
|>
|>Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
|>it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
|>
|>To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
|>TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
|>them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
|>everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
|>it !
|>
|>Darn ! !

Unless they are like the 1989++ Sharp Plasma Screens, that were all
glued to hell, just popping out the "seems" would give you a good picture of
the situation..brownouts...cold solder/etc.... most are very *Tweaky*

After all the research, You only learn from your hands on
experiments.....
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:59 PM
Meat Plow
 
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:27:15 -0700, penang wrote:

> In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
> there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
> problem.
>
> Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
> it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>
> To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
> TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
> them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
> everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
> it !
>
> Darn ! !


I've replaced ccfls in a laptop display so I imagine it would be much
easier on a desktop display.

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Old 03-27-2007, 03:59 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

On 26 Mar 2007 21:27:15 -0700, penang@catholic.org wrote:

>In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
>there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
>problem.
>
>Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
>it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>
>To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
>TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
>them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
>everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
>it !



You must not be trying very hard. What would be interesting
is to see if there is some way to refit it with LEDs for
illumination. Not on a "good" monitor, just some junky old
thing as an experiment.
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:48 AM
Meat Plow
 
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Default Re: TFT LCD - a step backward ?

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:07:26 +1000, Lionel wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:14:06 -0400, Meat Plow <meat@meatplow.local>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:27:15 -0700, penang wrote:
>>
>>> In the past, when the big-fat monitors were still been used, if
>>> there's any problem with them, I can open them up and find and fix the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Nowadays, where the TFT LCD bunch is taking over, when a monitor fail,
>>> it just dies. Can't be repaired, nada, zilch.
>>>
>>> To me, the TFT LCD represents a step backwards. I have on my hand 5
>>> TFT LCD monitors that lie belly up, and I just can't fix them ! All of
>>> them have the same problem - the back-lighting fails, but since
>>> everything is compressed into a compact module, there's no way to fix
>>> it !
>>>
>>> Darn ! !

>>
>>I've replaced ccfls in a laptop display so I imagine it would be much
>>easier on a desktop display.

>
> They generally use the same LCD modules, so the job is almost
> identical. The advantage of a desktop display is that you have a
> little bit more room to work with when you're extracting the LCD
> module in the first place.


Yeh it was the room to work in that I was talking about. I replaced the
inverter in my older Dell 15" and it was just an all around PITA.

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