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Old 04-05-2007, 08:20 AM
Talal Itani
 
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Default Should I get a Raptor Drive?

Hello,

I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus motherboard,
2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about a Raptor drive,
but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not know if it is worth
the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor, over a standard 7000 RPM
drive?

Best Regards,
T.I.


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Old 04-05-2007, 08:20 AM
WannaKatana
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?

On Apr 4, 9:33 pm, "Talal Itani" <tit...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus motherboard,
> 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about a Raptor drive,
> but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not know if it is worth
> the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor, over a standard 7000 RPM
> drive?
>
> Best Regards,
> T.I.


>From everything I've read, yes. :-)


Joel

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Old 04-05-2007, 08:20 AM
Cessna 310
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?

Talal Itani wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus motherboard,
> 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about a Raptor drive,
> but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not know if it is worth
> the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor, over a standard 7000 RPM
> drive?
>
> Best Regards,
> T.I.
>
>



Depends on your apps and how you use your computer. If you do much that
requires disc access, there will be a difference.

I didn't see much difference in boot time, but program load times and
file access times were noticeably improved when I switched to a Raptor
1500ADFD a couple of months ago.

I would not go with the smaller versions.

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Old 04-05-2007, 08:20 AM
Cessna 310
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?

Cessna 310 wrote:
> Talal Itani wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus
>> motherboard, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about
>> a Raptor drive, but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not
>> know if it is worth the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor,
>> over a standard 7000 RPM drive?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> T.I.
>>

>
>
> Depends on your apps and how you use your computer. If you do much that
> requires disc access, there will be a difference.
>
> I didn't see much difference in boot time, but program load times and
> file access times were noticeably improved when I switched to a Raptor
> 1500ADFD a couple of months ago.
>
> I would not go with the smaller versions.
>


I should have mentioned that I also have a WD 320gb SE16 as a second
drive. I have the page files and some data files on that drive.

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Old 04-05-2007, 10:01 AM
GT
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?

"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:i6_Qh.5691$i93.3470@trnddc05...
> Hello,
>
> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus motherboard,
> 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about a Raptor drive,
> but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not know if it is worth
> the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor, over a standard 7000 RPM
> drive?


How about a matching pair of Samsung Spinpoint or Western Digital 7200 hard
drives in a RAID. Would be just as fast and larger capacity.


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Old 04-05-2007, 05:38 PM
Talal Itani
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?


I am not sure about RAID, because I never tried RAID. A single drive seems
to me, to be cleaner and more straightforward approach. But, I think I will
now give it a thought, and educate myself about RAID.


>>
>> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus motherboard,
>> 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about a Raptor drive,
>> but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not know if it is
>> worth the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor, over a standard
>> 7000 RPM drive?

>
> How about a matching pair of Samsung Spinpoint or Western Digital 7200
> hard drives in a RAID. Would be just as fast and larger capacity.
>



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Old 04-05-2007, 05:38 PM
Talal Itani
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?


The PC I currently use is a few years old, and I do much waiting on
applications to load and start. With the PC I am putting together, I would
like to minimize the load and start time of applications.


>
> Depends on your apps and how you use your computer. If you do much that
> requires disc access, there will be a difference.
>
> I didn't see much difference in boot time, but program load times and file
> access times were noticeably improved when I switched to a Raptor 1500ADFD
> a couple of months ago.
>
> I would not go with the smaller versions.
>



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Old 04-05-2007, 06:01 PM
Icky Thwacket
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?


"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:V79Rh.4359$_43.3261@trnddc02...
>
> I am not sure about RAID, because I never tried RAID. A single drive
> seems to me, to be cleaner and more straightforward approach. But, I
> think I will now give it a thought, and educate myself about RAID.
>
>
>>>
>>> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus
>>> motherboard, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about a
>>> Raptor drive, but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not
>>> know if it is worth the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor,
>>> over a standard 7000 RPM drive?

>>
>> How about a matching pair of Samsung Spinpoint or Western Digital 7200
>> hard drives in a RAID. Would be just as fast and larger capacity.
>>

>


Also if you want to build a quiet machine Raptors are not the way to go,
they are very noisy both in background spin whine and also head track change
clunks.

It is far more efficient to have a well maintained defragged 7200rpm drive
with 16MB cache than have a fragged Raptor - the performance will be
noticeably faster.

Icky


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Old 04-05-2007, 07:18 PM
Ken Maltby
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?


"Icky Thwacket" <it@it.it> wrote in message
news:46152935$0$8742$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>
> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:V79Rh.4359$_43.3261@trnddc02...
>>
>> I am not sure about RAID, because I never tried RAID. A single drive
>> seems to me, to be cleaner and more straightforward approach. But, I
>> think I will now give it a thought, and educate myself about RAID.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> I am putting together a quality performance PC. A good Asus
>>>> motherboard, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 800 DDR2 memory. I am thinking about
>>>> a Raptor drive, but I never used a PC with a Raptor drive, so I do not
>>>> know if it is worth the extra Dollars. Do you recommend the Raptor,
>>>> over a standard 7000 RPM drive?
>>>
>>> How about a matching pair of Samsung Spinpoint or Western Digital 7200
>>> hard drives in a RAID. Would be just as fast and larger capacity.
>>>

>>

>
> Also if you want to build a quiet machine Raptors are not the way to go,
> they are very noisy both in background spin whine and also head track
> change clunks.
>
> It is far more efficient to have a well maintained defragged 7200rpm drive
> with 16MB cache than have a fragged Raptor - the performance will be
> noticeably faster.
>
> Icky


I have very quiet machines that use WD 10k Raptors, you
must have some poor mounting situation. In fact I run two
of them in a water-cooled system where they would be very
noticeable, if they were noisy.

You must be a liberal if you think that last paragraph is a
valid, logical comparison. If you have equally maintained
and defraged drives, the Raptor will be noticeably faster.

It's not a question of whether the Raptor performs better
but whether it is enough better to justify its greater cost.
They have become cheap enough so that they are a good
choice for uses that can benefit from their performance.

The RAID comparisons are flawed as well. You can
create a RAID array using raptors, for one thing. Another
would be whether you gain anything buying several slower
drives to create a RAID array that can only match or very
slightly exceed the performance of an individual Raptor.
(Again it becomes a price performance issue.)

Luck;
Ken



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Old 04-05-2007, 07:40 PM
Trimble
 
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Default Re: Should I get a Raptor Drive?

I look at this for the same reasons.
I decided NO ! not worth it.
If Raptors were say 20% more than standard SATA II then yes but at 3 or 4
times the
price with smallish speed improvement no.
The only faster disk way is RAID ...perhaps SCSI ..but that is another
expensive world
mouse
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