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Old 06-01-2007, 08:46 PM
Don
 
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Default Serial ATA Cable Question

I have two Seagate serial ATA disk drives(SATA 300). But the cables are
serial ATA 150. Would there be any performance improvement if I changed
the cables to SATA300?

Thanks,
Don
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:42 PM
GT
 
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Default Re: Serial ATA Cable Question

"Don" <nntp.20.donald2007@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
news:5cbbdkF30jgnjU1@mid.individual.net...
>I have two Seagate serial ATA disk drives(SATA 300). But the cables are
>serial ATA 150. Would there be any performance improvement if I changed
>the cables to SATA300?


Not that you would notice. The drives will only manage 60-70MB/s transfer
speed so moving from 150 max to 300 max won't make any difference. The peak
transfer rate will have a higher limit, but in reality you won't notice it
being used. If your drives have NCQ, you might see a slight performance
increase*, but again, you probably won't notice.

Actually i just re-read your question and you said 'cables are SATA150'. I
didn't know the cables are rated, I assumed you were talking about a
different controller - what version is your controller, because if it is
SATA150 (and perhaps the cables came with it?), then new cables won't make
any difference at all.

* I think NCQ is only supported in SATA300, but I stand to be corrected on
this - I read this somewhere and can't find any more information to support
it!


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Old 06-01-2007, 11:28 PM
DaveW
 
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Default Re: Serial ATA Cable Question

No.

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"Don" <nntp.20.donald2007@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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>I have two Seagate serial ATA disk drives(SATA 300). But the cables are
>serial ATA 150. Would there be any performance improvement if I changed
>the cables to SATA300?
>
> Thanks,
> Don



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Old 06-02-2007, 12:08 AM
Don
 
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Default Re: Serial ATA Cable Question

GT wrote:
> "Don" <nntp.20.donald2007@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
> news:5cbbdkF30jgnjU1@mid.individual.net...
>> I have two Seagate serial ATA disk drives(SATA 300). But the cables are
>> serial ATA 150. Would there be any performance improvement if I changed
>> the cables to SATA300?

>
> Not that you would notice. The drives will only manage 60-70MB/s transfer
> speed so moving from 150 max to 300 max won't make any difference. The peak
> transfer rate will have a higher limit, but in reality you won't notice it
> being used. If your drives have NCQ, you might see a slight performance
> increase*, but again, you probably won't notice.
>
> Actually i just re-read your question and you said 'cables are SATA150'. I
> didn't know the cables are rated, I assumed you were talking about a
> different controller - what version is your controller, because if it is
> SATA150 (and perhaps the cables came with it?), then new cables won't make
> any difference at all.
>
> * I think NCQ is only supported in SATA300, but I stand to be corrected on
> this - I read this somewhere and can't find any more information to support
> it!
>
>

Serial ATA cables are rated. The 300 or SATA 2 cables are thicker. My
motherboard has a SATA 300 bus, but given the nature of the disks(7200
rpm), I suspect there won't be much of a difference, if any. I suppose
this serial ATA thing is really a marketing ploy more than anything
else. There are advantages though, no master/slave, and the cables are
easier to work with.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:28 PM
Pecos
 
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"GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:466084d5$0$24461$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> "Don" <nntp.20.donald2007@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
> news:5cbbdkF30jgnjU1@mid.individual.net...
>>I have two Seagate serial ATA disk drives(SATA 300). But the cables
>>are serial ATA 150. Would there be any performance improvement if I
>>changed the cables to SATA300?

>
> Not that you would notice. The drives will only manage 60-70MB/s
> transfer speed so moving from 150 max to 300 max won't make any
> difference. The peak transfer rate will have a higher limit, but in
> reality you won't notice it being used. If your drives have NCQ, you
> might see a slight performance increase*, but again, you probably
> won't notice.
>
> Actually i just re-read your question and you said 'cables are
> SATA150'. I didn't know the cables are rated, I assumed you were
> talking about a different controller - what version is your
> controller, because if it is SATA150 (and perhaps the cables came with
> it?), then new cables won't make any difference at all.
>
> * I think NCQ is only supported in SATA300, but I stand to be
> corrected on this - I read this somewhere and can't find any more
> information to support it!
>


Hi GT,

I have two Maxtor 6L250S0 drives that are SATA I 1.5 Gb/s that support
NCQ. See '3.5-Inch Storage All-Stars':

http://www.computerpoweruser.com/editorial/article.asp?
article=articles/archive/c0502/30c02/30c02.asp&guid=

Or more specs:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:
_N_uFVJRkFoJ:www.qnap.com.tw/image/product/HCL/TS-101
_Compatibility_List.pdf+diamondmax+sata+ncq+1.5&hl =en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us


I should also mention that the Southbridge (I/O Controller Hub) needs to
support NCQ for you to actually see and use NCQ.

For Intel:
The ICH5, ICH5R, ICH6, ICH7 and ICH8 chipsets *do not* use AHCI (Advanced
Host Controller Interface) which is required for NCQ (Native Command
Queuing).

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