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  #1  
Old 01-11-2008, 01:54 PM
Peter Olcott
 
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Default Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
with the power turned on?


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Old 01-11-2008, 02:30 PM
Conor
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35964@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott says...
> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
> with the power turned on?
>
>
>

USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers up the
motherboard PS2 port.

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Old 01-11-2008, 03:24 PM
PeteOlcott
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On Jan 11, 8:30*am, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35...@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott says...> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
> > with the power turned on?

>
> USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers up the
> motherboard PS2 port.
>
> --
> Conor
>
> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.


Meaning that it damages the motherboard PS2 port?
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:33 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:24:39 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
<PeteOlcott@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 11, 8:30*am, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35...@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott says...> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
>> > with the power turned on?

>>
>> USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers up the
>> motherboard PS2 port.
>>
>> --
>> Conor
>>
>> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.

>
>Meaning that it damages the motherboard PS2 port?


Meaning that it could, but more often the problem is it
isn't designed to be redetected.

Simple answer - don't do it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:39 PM
PeteOlcott
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On Jan 11, 9:33*am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:24:39 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
>
> <PeteOlc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 11, 8:30*am, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35...@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott says...> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
> >> > with the power turned on?

>
> >> USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers up the
> >> motherboard PS2 port.

>
> >> --
> >> Conor

>
> >> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.

>
> >Meaning that it damages the motherboard PS2 port?

>
> Meaning that it could, but more often the problem is it
> isn't designed to be redetected.
>
> Simple answer - don't do it.


Already did it, and trying to see if this is the cause of my problems.
What problems can this cause? If this is the cause of my problems
would replacing the keybarod with a USB keyboard fix the problem?
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:00 PM
SteveH
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

PeteOlcott wrote:
> On Jan 11, 9:33 am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:24:39 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
>>
>> <PeteOlc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 8:30 am, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35...@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott
>>>> says...> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
>>>>> with the power turned on?

>>
>>>> USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers
>>>> up the
>>>> motherboard PS2 port.

>>
>>>> --
>>>> Conor

>>
>>>> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.

>>
>>> Meaning that it damages the motherboard PS2 port?

>>
>> Meaning that it could, but more often the problem is it
>> isn't designed to be redetected.
>>
>> Simple answer - don't do it.

>
> Already did it, and trying to see if this is the cause of my problems.
> What problems can this cause? If this is the cause of my problems
> would replacing the keybarod with a USB keyboard fix the problem?


If the only thing you managed to bugger up is the PS2 keyboard controller,
possibly. Can't hurt to try though.

SteveH


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Old 01-11-2008, 05:16 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:39:30 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
<PeteOlcott@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 11, 9:33*am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:24:39 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
>>
>> <PeteOlc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 11, 8:30*am, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35...@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott says...> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
>> >> > with the power turned on?

>>
>> >> USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers up the
>> >> motherboard PS2 port.

>>
>> >> --
>> >> Conor

>>
>> >> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.

>>
>> >Meaning that it damages the motherboard PS2 port?

>>
>> Meaning that it could, but more often the problem is it
>> isn't designed to be redetected.
>>
>> Simple answer - don't do it.

>
>Already did it, and trying to see if this is the cause of my problems.
>What problems can this cause? If this is the cause of my problems
>would replacing the keybarod with a USB keyboard fix the problem?


Try keyboard with another system. Try another keyboard with
that system.

Yes a USB keyboard should still work, it is only coincidence
it is a keyboard as the port is different.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:42 PM
PeteOlcott
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On Jan 11, 11:16*am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:39:30 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
>
>
>
>
>
> <PeteOlc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 11, 9:33*am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:24:39 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott

>
> >> <PeteOlc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jan 11, 8:30*am, Conor <conor_tur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> In article <hyKhj.43459$1C4.35...@newsfe10.phx>, Peter Olcott says....> Can the keyboard be safely unplugged, and plugged back in
> >> >> > with the power turned on?

>
> >> >> USB, yes. PS2 - well some can and some can't. Usually it buggers up the
> >> >> motherboard PS2 port.

>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Conor

>
> >> >> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.

>
> >> >Meaning that it damages the motherboard PS2 port?

>
> >> Meaning that it could, but more often the problem is it
> >> isn't designed to be redetected.

>
> >> Simple answer - don't do it.

>
> >Already did it, and trying to see if this is the cause of my problems.
> >What problems can this cause? If this is the cause of my problems
> >would replacing the keybarod with a USB keyboard fix the problem?

>
> Try keyboard with another system. *Try another keyboard with
> that system.
>
> Yes a USB keyboard should still work, it is only coincidence
> it is a keyboard as the port is different.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Would both types of keyboard interfaces (USB and PS2) use the same
keyboard controller on the motherboard?
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Andrew
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On 11 Jan, 17:16, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:39:30 -0800 (PST), PeteOlcott
>
> >Already did it, and trying to see if this is the cause of my problems.
> >What problems can this cause? If this is the cause of my problems
> >would replacing the keybarod with a USB keyboard fix the problem?

>
> Try keyboard with another system. Try another keyboard with
> that system.


Best not to risk doing that. Although it's never happened to me I
have heard stories (from trustworthy sources) of damage being passed
from system to system in this manner. The keyboard is unplugged and
the system is damaged. The system then damages any keyboard plugged
into it. The damaged keyboard then damages any system it is plugged
into. For a cheap keyboard I doubt it's worth the risk. If you had a
premium or particularly treasured keyboard, maybe - keyboards are
highly personal things after all - but test it on a scrapper first.
I'd generally throw out the keyboard as a bad risk and seal off the
mobo's keyboard port with e.g. epoxy to prevent anything being
inserted in future. Just make sure it isn't one of those graphite or
silver loaded conductive epoxies.

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andrews@sdf.lonestar.org
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:49 PM
Andrew
 
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Default Re: Is the keyboard hot pluggable?

On 11 Jan, 19:42, PeteOlcott <PeteOlc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 11:16 am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes a USB keyboard should still work, it is only coincidence
> > it is a keyboard as the port is different.- Hide quoted text -

>
> Would both types of keyboard interfaces (USB and PS2) use the same
> keyboard controller on the motherboard?


No. FWIW the keyboard controller is actually embedded in the
keyboard. The two different standards use completely independent
systems. From memory even the scancodes are different.

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