hp pav 7970 motherboard replacement

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:57:00 -0400, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:39:47 -0400, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Granted, the more parts there are that need replaced the
>>>>> less worthwhile it becomes to do so, but for many people it
>>>>> would be madness to spend a few hundred instead of under
>>>>> $100 when they don't really need a newer system from a
>>>>> performance standpoint, though at 7 years it is also a good
>>>>> idea to replace the hard drive to decrease the chances of
>>>>> data loss from eventual failure of the original drive.
>>>>
>>>>Except that he's not doing this himself. It gets a little more expensive
>>>>when you pay a shop to do the troubleshooting and repair. Unless it was
>>>>a
>>>>high end machine to begin with, it's probably not worth the expense, not
>>>>to
>>>>mention, a new machine will come with a new hard drive
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps, but if one is willing to try doing the work
>>> themselves, several parts might be replaced at no greater
>>> cost than the shop's bench fees alone. The shop might even
>>> be a source of cheap used parts to DIY, it can vary a lot
>>> what one shop charges vs another for used stuff. A shop
>>> certainly likes to sell the full package of diagnosis and
>>> repair plus new parts, but if all they can get is to sell
>>> off some of the used parts, it's money for parts they'd
>>> often be throwing away in the dumpster otherwise.
>>
>>I don't know how many shops give stuff away. That's not the business
>>they're
>>in, but you're correct, if they could steer him in the right direction and
>>sell him the parts, they'd both make out
>>
>
> Did I write "give stuff away" or did I write cheap? Suppose
> for a second that a shop has a leftover old motherboard,
> this actually happens quite often when people abandon an old
> system they don't want to pay the fees on, or when there is
> a failure to the point where a shop gives a small discount
> off the new system to take the old one from them.
>
> It is the business they're in to sell whatever they can.
> Including used parts. Like I wrote before, some shops
> charge a lot more than others for the used parts. Some will
> sell old used stuff for $5 to $10 a part. Some can't even
> sell what they take in for $5 and end up throwing excess
> away, though it'd be worth the money just to get a board off
> their shelf instead of rooting through a dumpster with the
> hope you grab good boards instead of bad ones.

I wrote "give stuff away" meaning "cheap". It seems all to often when
someone has an obscure or obsolete part that a customer can't find anywhere
else, the price goes up

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:58:19 -0400, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
wrote:


>> It is the business they're in to sell whatever they can.
>> Including used parts. Like I wrote before, some shops
>> charge a lot more than others for the used parts. Some will
>> sell old used stuff for $5 to $10 a part. Some can't even
>> sell what they take in for $5 and end up throwing excess
>> away, though it'd be worth the money just to get a board off
>> their shelf instead of rooting through a dumpster with the
>> hope you grab good boards instead of bad ones.
>
>I wrote "give stuff away" meaning "cheap". It seems all to often when
>someone has an obscure or obsolete part that a customer can't find anywhere
>else, the price goes up
>

Then you've gone to the wrong shops. If someone will accept
a random 7 year old mATX board it can be had quite cheaply,
certainly not more expensive. Remember we are talking about
used boards. Nothing is particularly obscure about an old
computer when you are at a computer shop, if they have
enough business to survive they'll have systems sitting
around all over the place. They toss anything they can't
sell.