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Old 04-05-2008, 06:04 AM
Terry
 
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Default HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card

I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
audio plug).

Any help is appreciated.

Terry in Texas
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:34 AM
Paul
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card

Terry wrote:
> I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
> capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
> mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
> coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
> I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
> audio plug).
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Terry in Texas


Can you provide a link to the product page for "WinPRV Vista713X" ?
I cannot find it.

Composite and S-video, don't have audio in them. Audio is carried
separately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video

The capture chip itself, is documented here. SAA7134 is a member
of a family of chips. Thus the "713X" in some driver documentation.
If you read the part number on the main chip of your card, then
you may get some idea of its capabilities.

http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/...AA7134HL_4.pdf

Paul
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:54 AM
Ken Maltby
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card


"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:ft72io$no2$1@aioe.org...
> Terry wrote:
>> I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
>> capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
>> mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
>> coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
>> I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
>> audio plug).
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Terry in Texas

>
> Can you provide a link to the product page for "WinPRV Vista713X" ?
> I cannot find it.
>
> Composite and S-video, don't have audio in them. Audio is carried
> separately.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video
>
> The capture chip itself, is documented here. SAA7134 is a member
> of a family of chips. Thus the "713X" in some driver documentation.
> If you read the part number on the main chip of your card, then
> you may get some idea of its capabilities.
>
> http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/...AA7134HL_4.pdf
>
> Paul


What would be more to the point is, What is the make and
model of the camcorder. Then we might find out how it
provides audio.

Luck;
Ken

P.S. The original star of the series was the Philips SAA 7114H


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Old 04-06-2008, 05:35 AM
Terry
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card

On Apr 5, 12:54*am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in messagenews:ft72io$no2$1@aioe.org...
> > Terry wrote:
> >> I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
> >> capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
> >> mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
> >> coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
> >> I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
> >> audio plug).

>
> >> Any help is appreciated.

>
> >> Terry in Texas

>
> > Can you provide a link to the product page for "WinPRV Vista713X" ?
> > I cannot find it.

>
> > Composite and S-video, don't have audio in them. Audio is carried
> > separately.

>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video

>
> > The capture chip itself, is documented here. SAA7134 is a member
> > of a family of chips. Thus the "713X" in some driver documentation.
> > If you read the part number on the main chip of your card, then
> > you may get some idea of its capabilities.

>
> >http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/...AA7134HL_4.pdf

>
> > * *Paul

>
> * What would be more to the point is, What is the make and
> model of the camcorder. *Then we might find out how it
> provides audio.
>
> Luck;
> * * Ken
>
> P.S. The original star of the series was the Philips SAA 7114H- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


The camcorder is a SHARP VL-E780U.
It has only one A/V output and it uses one of those small double male
plugs.
This model is to old to have S-Video,Firewire or USB.

Terry

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Old 04-06-2008, 06:57 AM
Paul
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card

Terry wrote:
> On Apr 5, 12:54 am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> "Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in messagenews:ft72io$no2$1@aioe.org...
>>> Terry wrote:
>>>> I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
>>>> capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
>>>> mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
>>>> coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
>>>> I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
>>>> audio plug).
>>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>>> Terry in Texas
>>> Can you provide a link to the product page for "WinPRV Vista713X" ?
>>> I cannot find it.
>>> Composite and S-video, don't have audio in them. Audio is carried
>>> separately.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video
>>> The capture chip itself, is documented here. SAA7134 is a member
>>> of a family of chips. Thus the "713X" in some driver documentation.
>>> If you read the part number on the main chip of your card, then
>>> you may get some idea of its capabilities.
>>> http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/...AA7134HL_4.pdf
>>> Paul

>> What would be more to the point is, What is the make and
>> model of the camcorder. Then we might find out how it
>> provides audio.
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>> P.S. The original star of the series was the Philips SAA 7114H- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> The camcorder is a SHARP VL-E780U.
> It has only one A/V output and it uses one of those small double male
> plugs.
> This model is to old to have S-Video,Firewire or USB.
>
> Terry
>


I tried Sharpusa, but couldn't find a manual.

They offer "accessories", and of course the model number works
if you want to buy something :-) No sense though, providing support,
because that doesn't generate the dinero.

(Accessory list for VL-E780U)
http://www.sharp-cart.com/ecom/acces...talog/ss_items

QCNW-1448TAZZ is listed as an A/V cable for the camera. Of course, Sharp
doesn't offer a picture of it. I found that cable for sale here.

http://www.pro-cam-electronics.com/1448tazz.htm

It looks like the camera has a 1/8" stereo jack on its end. And the
cable has two RCA connectors on the other end. My guess would be
one connector is composite video, and the other is monophonic audio.

While this manual is not for the camera in question, it does show
the cable in use, on PDF page 31. Yellow is video, white is audio.

http://www.sharpusa.com/files/cam_man_vlah150_160u.pdf

Paul
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Old 04-06-2008, 01:02 PM
Ken Maltby
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card


"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:ft9o9e$9oq$1@aioe.org...
> Terry wrote:
>> On Apr 5, 12:54 am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> "Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in messagenews:ft72io$no2$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Terry wrote:
>>>>> I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
>>>>> capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
>>>>> mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
>>>>> coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
>>>>> I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
>>>>> audio plug).
>>>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>>>> Terry in Texas
>>>> Can you provide a link to the product page for "WinPRV Vista713X" ?
>>>> I cannot find it.
>>>> Composite and S-video, don't have audio in them. Audio is carried
>>>> separately.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video
>>>> The capture chip itself, is documented here. SAA7134 is a member
>>>> of a family of chips. Thus the "713X" in some driver documentation.
>>>> If you read the part number on the main chip of your card, then
>>>> you may get some idea of its capabilities.
>>>> http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/...AA7134HL_4.pdf
>>>> Paul
>>> What would be more to the point is, What is the make and
>>> model of the camcorder. Then we might find out how it
>>> provides audio.
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> P.S. The original star of the series was the Philips SAA 7114H- Hide
>>> quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> The camcorder is a SHARP VL-E780U.
>> It has only one A/V output and it uses one of those small double male
>> plugs.
>> This model is to old to have S-Video,Firewire or USB.
>>
>> Terry
>>

>
> I tried Sharpusa, but couldn't find a manual.
>
> They offer "accessories", and of course the model number works
> if you want to buy something :-) No sense though, providing support,
> because that doesn't generate the dinero.
>
> (Accessory list for VL-E780U)
> http://www.sharp-cart.com/ecom/acces...talog/ss_items
>
> QCNW-1448TAZZ is listed as an A/V cable for the camera. Of course, Sharp
> doesn't offer a picture of it. I found that cable for sale here.
>
> http://www.pro-cam-electronics.com/1448tazz.htm
>
> It looks like the camera has a 1/8" stereo jack on its end. And the
> cable has two RCA connectors on the other end. My guess would be
> one connector is composite video, and the other is monophonic audio.
>
> While this manual is not for the camera in question, it does show
> the cable in use, on PDF page 31. Yellow is video, white is audio.
>
> http://www.sharpusa.com/files/cam_man_vlah150_160u.pdf
>
> Paul


Impressive as always Paul.

So now it does look like the OP has the wrong A/V cable for
his camera. Once he has the proper A/V cable, he can check
his WinPVR manual or setup documentation to find which of
the stereo (red&white) RCA jacks is the default for mono input.
If mono input is not provided for, he can get a simple RCA "Y"
adapter, so that he can provide the audio to both of the WinPVR's
audio input jacks.

Luck;
Ken


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Old 04-06-2008, 08:15 PM
Terry
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card

On Apr 6, 7:02*am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in messagenews:ft9o9e$9oq$1@aioe.org...
> > Terry wrote:
> >> On Apr 5, 12:54 am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>> "Paul" <nos...@needed.com> wrote in messagenews:ft72io$no2$1@aioe.org....
> >>>> Terry wrote:
> >>>>> I just bought a WinPRV Vista713X card and the when I do a video
> >>>>> capture of my camcorder, captures great but NO AUDIO.
> >>>>> mY camcorder is an old model that uses a standard A/V single plug
> >>>>> coming out of the camera but with a RCA plug on the other end.
> >>>>> I"m thinking a might need a cable with two plugs on the end (RCA & a
> >>>>> audio plug).
> >>>>> Any help is appreciated.
> >>>>> Terry in Texas
> >>>> Can you provide a link to the product page for "WinPRV Vista713X" ?
> >>>> I cannot find it.
> >>>> Composite and S-video, don't have audio in them. Audio is carried
> >>>> separately.
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-video
> >>>> The capture chip itself, is documented here. SAA7134 is a member
> >>>> of a family of chips. Thus the "713X" in some driver documentation.
> >>>> If you read the part number on the main chip of your card, then
> >>>> you may get some idea of its capabilities.
> >>>>http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/...AA7134HL_4.pdf
> >>>> * *Paul
> >>> * What would be more to the point is, What is the make and
> >>> model of the camcorder. *Then we might find out how it
> >>> provides audio.

>
> >>> Luck;
> >>> * * Ken

>
> >>> P.S. The original star of the series was the Philips SAA 7114H- Hide
> >>> quoted text -

>
> >>> - Show quoted text -

>
> >> The camcorder is a SHARP VL-E780U.
> >> It has only one A/V output and it uses one of those small double male
> >> plugs.
> >> This model is to old *to have S-Video,Firewire or USB.

>
> >> Terry

>
> > I tried Sharpusa, but couldn't find a manual.

>
> > They offer "accessories", and of course the model number works
> > if you want to buy something :-) No sense though, providing support,
> > because that doesn't generate the dinero.

>
> > (Accessory list for VL-E780U)
> >http://www.sharp-cart.com/ecom/acces...etSearchItems&....

>
> > QCNW-1448TAZZ is listed as an A/V cable for the camera. Of course, Sharp
> > doesn't offer a picture of it. I found that cable for sale here.

>
> >http://www.pro-cam-electronics.com/1448tazz.htm

>
> > It looks like the camera has a 1/8" stereo jack on its end. And the
> > cable has two RCA connectors on the other end. My guess would be
> > one connector is composite video, and the other is monophonic audio.

>
> > While this manual is not for the camera in question, it does show
> > the cable in use, on PDF page 31. Yellow is video, white is audio.

>
> >http://www.sharpusa.com/files/cam_man_vlah150_160u.pdf

>
> > * *Paul

>
> *Impressive as always Paul.
>
> So now it does look like the OP has the wrong A/V cable for
> his camera. *Once he has the proper A/V cable, he can check
> his WinPVR manual or setup documentation to find which of
> the stereo (red&white) RCA jacks is the default for mono input.
> If mono input is not provided for, he can get a simple RCA "Y"
> adapter, so that he can provide the audio to both of the WinPVR's
> audio input jacks.
>
> Luck;
> * * Ken- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Paul,
thanks for the research.
That's what I was afraid of.
Just for this project, I bought a video capture card with a RCA video
input jack on the back but the audio input is the small plug type and
not a RCA type.

thanks,
Terry
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:44 PM
Ken Maltby
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card


"Terry" <terry75115@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:245f5fd3-e155-4714-8263-0545c76ae825@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 6, 7:02 am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Impressive as always Paul.
>
> So now it does look like the OP has the wrong A/V cable for
> his camera. Once he has the proper A/V cable, he can check
> his WinPVR manual or setup documentation to find which of
> the stereo (red&white) RCA jacks is the default for mono input.
> If mono input is not provided for, he can get a simple RCA "Y"
> adapter, so that he can provide the audio to both of the WinPVR's
> audio input jacks.
>
> Luck;
> Ken- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Paul,
thanks for the research.
That's what I was afraid of.
Just for this project, I bought a video capture card with a RCA video
input jack on the back but the audio input is the small plug type and
not a RCA type.

thanks,
Terry

This is in addition to the WinPVR card?

Please provide the make & model of the hardware,
in this kind of post. Can you check the model of
your WinPVR card again, as well?

If this new card's "small plug type" is a stereo input then
you will need an adapter to connect your mono RCA.

Luck;
Ken


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Old 04-07-2008, 12:17 AM
Paul
 
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Default Re: HELP needed with WinPVR video capture card

Terry wrote:

>
> Paul,
> thanks for the research.
> That's what I was afraid of.
> Just for this project, I bought a video capture card with a RCA video
> input jack on the back but the audio input is the small plug type and
> not a RCA type.
>
> thanks,
> Terry


Well, Radio Shack carries things like this stereo 1/8" plug to two
RCA female jacks. They have various gadgets, to bridge between the
RCA connector world, and the other standards. I use one like this
adapter, to get sound into the computer, from RCA equipped
devices like my mixer/amp.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103225

Paul
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