>>>>> A new 20" LCD (Westinghouse L2045NV) has been purchased that has a
>>>>> native resolution of 1400x1050. There is no monitor "driver"
>>>>> available for that particular model, as far as I can tell.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no 1400x1050 option for "Screen Resolution" even though the
>>>>> graphics card (Radeon 9200) should have plenty of memory to
>>>>> accomplish it. I see no way in the (current) version of Catalyst to
>>>>> force a specific resolution.
Two things... Firmware in the monitor needs updating or that monitor really
isn't 1400x1050.
I mention the firmware because I bought a 24" widescreen Acer LCD that
Windows refused to use at it's native resolution (1920x1200 I think). When I
contacted Acer they acknowledged it was a firmware problem and that a
certified shop could update it. Instead I just returned the monitor.
The reason I think it may not really be 1400x1050 is that I can't find that
model of monitor using Google, and Westinghouse certainly doesn't make their
own. I did find an HP L2045w and it's native resolution is 1680x1050. Will
your video drivers let you choose something higher thatn 1400x1050? 60Hz
refresh is fine for LCD.
Can you verify the information on the label on the back of the monitor?
Noozer wrote:
>>>>>> A new 20" LCD (Westinghouse L2045NV) has been purchased that has a
>>>>>> native resolution of 1400x1050. There is no monitor "driver"
>>>>>> available for that particular model, as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no 1400x1050 option for "Screen Resolution" even though the
>>>>>> graphics card (Radeon 9200) should have plenty of memory to
>>>>>> accomplish it. I see no way in the (current) version of Catalyst to
>>>>>> force a specific resolution.
>
> Two things... Firmware in the monitor needs updating or that monitor really
> isn't 1400x1050.
>
> I mention the firmware because I bought a 24" widescreen Acer LCD that
> Windows refused to use at it's native resolution (1920x1200 I think). When I
> contacted Acer they acknowledged it was a firmware problem and that a
> certified shop could update it. Instead I just returned the monitor.
>
> The reason I think it may not really be 1400x1050 is that I can't find that
> model of monitor using Google, and Westinghouse certainly doesn't make their
> own. I did find an HP L2045w and it's native resolution is 1680x1050.
Here is the product page at Westinghouse, for what it's worth:
Sorry about the typo: It should have been L2046NV.
> Will
> your video drivers let you choose something higher thatn 1400x1050? 60Hz
> refresh is fine for LCD.
I don't exactly recall. (This unit has been installed in a friend's
house, so I don't have instant access to it.) I'll check that out next
time I'm over there.
> Can you verify the information on the label on the back of the monitor?
"Q: Do I need a monitor driver?
A: You don’t need a monitor driver to drive you LCD display.
Some LCD manufacturers do include an information file of their
monitor for users to load. However, Westinghouse monitors are
fully Plug and Play."
So I guess that means they don't believe in color profiles either.
> Here is the product page at Westinghouse, for what it's worth:
>
> http://www.westinghousedigital.com/d...px?itemnum=104
>
> Sorry about the typo: It should have been L2046NV.
>
>> Will your video drivers let you choose something higher thatn 1400x1050?
>> 60Hz refresh is fine for LCD.
>
> I don't exactly recall. (This unit has been installed in a friend's
> house, so I don't have instant access to it.) I'll check that out next
> time I'm over there.
>
>> Can you verify the information on the label on the back of the monitor?
>
> Surely.
Well, if that model # is right, then it is indeed 1400x1050... Are you using
the VGA or DVI connection? DVI is much preferred.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:14:53 GMT Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
| That utility looks to be useful, but perhaps a bit to powerful for my
| application. I'm looking for something fairly simple as this monitor is
| for the daughter of a friend. I'll take a look at Powerstrip--maybe
| there's a way to have quick settings, and hide the more complicated
| parts of the interface.
It takes a lot of power to overcome deficient software.
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Noozer wrote:
>> Here is the product page at Westinghouse, for what it's worth:
>>
>> http://www.westinghousedigital.com/d...px?itemnum=104
>>
>> Sorry about the typo: It should have been L2046NV.
>>
>>> Will your video drivers let you choose something higher thatn 1400x1050?
>>> 60Hz refresh is fine for LCD.
>> I don't exactly recall. (This unit has been installed in a friend's
>> house, so I don't have instant access to it.) I'll check that out next
>> time I'm over there.
>>
>>> Can you verify the information on the label on the back of the monitor?
>> Surely.
>
> Well, if that model # is right, then it is indeed 1400x1050... Are you using
> the VGA or DVI connection? DVI is much preferred.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:19:33 -0400 kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
| On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:00:28 GMT, Grinder
| <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
|
|>I know that someone else has to have had this same problem, but I've
|>been unable to find a discussion that's both on point and with a solution.
|>
|>A new 20" LCD (Westinghouse L2045NV) has been purchased that has a
|>native resolution of 1400x1050. There is no monitor "driver" available
|>for that particular model, as far as I can tell.
|>
|>There is no 1400x1050 option for "Screen Resolution" even though the
|>graphics card (Radeon 9200) should have plenty of memory to accomplish
|>it. I see no way in the (current) version of Catalyst to force a
|>specific resolution.
|>
|>How can I get the system to drive the monitor at its native resolution?
|
| If there's nothing in the Catalyst Contol Center that will
| allow this res., try an nVidia card... just tried it on this
| system with one (FX5700) and it supports 1440x1050 as a
| custom resolution even with the now old 78.05 Detonator
| version I have to use to keep the onboard tuner/capture
| drivers happy.
I have an old Matrox Millennium video card that lets me run 1440x1050 just
fine ... as long as I am willing to accept a lower frame rate due to the
fact that this ancient technology didn't have a very high pixel clock :-)
Fortunately, the G450 has sufficient pixel clock frequency to let me get
it up to 50.5 Hz vertical. The older Millennium (1) could only get up to
about 40 Hz vertical ... which would display just fine in LCD technology
(don't try this on CRT), if only embedded software in LCD monitors would
allow direct synthesizer divider programming.
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:17:06 GMT Noozer <dont.spam@me.here> wrote:
| I mention the firmware because I bought a 24" widescreen Acer LCD that
| Windows refused to use at it's native resolution (1920x1200 I think). When I
| contacted Acer they acknowledged it was a firmware problem and that a
| certified shop could update it. Instead I just returned the monitor.
It's not Windows. It's a limitation of the driver. At work, some of us
use Linux and some use Windows. Both groups have encountered problems
like this. In the case of Windows users it's always the driver doing the
bad. In the case of Linux it's always the desktop window manager (that
changes resolution after you login) doing the bad. Explicit programming
of the modelines in the xorg.conf file always gets around it. But that's
not an option for MS Windows.
| The reason I think it may not really be 1400x1050 is that I can't find that
| model of monitor using Google, and Westinghouse certainly doesn't make their
| own. I did find an HP L2045w and it's native resolution is 1680x1050. Will
| your video drivers let you choose something higher thatn 1400x1050? 60Hz
| refresh is fine for LCD.
|
| Can you verify the information on the label on the back of the monitor?
I have an Acer brand 1400x1050 at work that runs fine. The monitor's clock
is spot on (very sharp crisp text when the text is rendered without any
anti-aliasing). I don't remember the exact model number. It is 20 inch
diagonal. Text console mode is not so good because the monitor can't get
the vertical down to the frame rate needed to effect the 1400x1050 geometry
in that mode.
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:34:36 -0400 Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
| Grinder wrote:
|
|>
|> Here is the product page at Westinghouse, for what it's worth:
|>
|> http://www.westinghousedigital.com/d...px?itemnum=104
|>
|> Sorry about the typo: It should have been L2046NV.
|>
|
| I see in their product FAQ, they have no intention of providing a driver.
|
| http://www.westinghousedigital.com/f...px?itemnum=104
|
| "Q: Do I need a monitor driver?
| A: You don?t need a monitor driver to drive you LCD display.
| Some LCD manufacturers do include an information file of their
| monitor for users to load. However, Westinghouse monitors are
| fully Plug and Play."
The monitor tells the video card (by some mean ... I never looked up just
how it does that) what the native resolution is. The video card driver
should be able to get that info and just do it. But it seems many video
card drivers don't do this very well.
| So I guess that means they don't believe in color profiles either.
Perhaps not. Or perhaps that's included in the information send from the
monitor to the vide card?
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>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:19:33 -0400 kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>| On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:00:28 GMT, Grinder
>| <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
>|
>|>I know that someone else has to have had this same problem, but I've
>|>been unable to find a discussion that's both on point and with a solution.
>|>
>|>A new 20" LCD (Westinghouse L2045NV) has been purchased that has a
>|>native resolution of 1400x1050. There is no monitor "driver" available
>|>for that particular model, as far as I can tell.
>|>
>|>There is no 1400x1050 option for "Screen Resolution" even though the
>|>graphics card (Radeon 9200) should have plenty of memory to accomplish
>|>it. I see no way in the (current) version of Catalyst to force a
>|>specific resolution.
>|>
>|>How can I get the system to drive the monitor at its native resolution?
>|
>| If there's nothing in the Catalyst Contol Center that will
>| allow this res., try an nVidia card... just tried it on this
>| system with one (FX5700) and it supports 1440x1050 as a
>| custom resolution even with the now old 78.05 Detonator
>| version I have to use to keep the onboard tuner/capture
>| drivers happy.
>
>I have an old Matrox Millennium video card that lets me run 1440x1050 just
>fine ... as long as I am willing to accept a lower frame rate due to the
>fact that this ancient technology didn't have a very high pixel clock :-)
So in other words, it doesn't do it just fine.
However, I don't think we've yet determined that the OP's
video card is definitely the problem, as there is still some
question as to whether the monitor is handling what it
receives correctly.
>
>Fortunately, the G450 has sufficient pixel clock frequency to let me get
>it up to 50.5 Hz vertical. The older Millennium (1) could only get up to
>about 40 Hz vertical ... which would display just fine in LCD technology
>(don't try this on CRT), if only embedded software in LCD monitors would
>allow direct synthesizer divider programming.
New Higher-Res Widescreen LCD - $250
Used Maxtrox G450 - $5
It would be more cost effective for us all to pay you 20
cents each to offset the loss of your video card instead of
bearing the higher cost of implementing this change and
added support to modern higher-res LCDs... support which
most of us don't need.
Re: Forcing Screen Resolution 
Linear Mode
