I have a 1GHZ IBM Netvista computer. I am running Win98se.
At least once a week, if not several times a week this computer will
just reboot without any warning. I am not referring to the occasional
blue screens that happen with Win98, those happen once and awhile, and
I'm not too worried about them, knowing they are just part of Win98,
and they happen less often than these reboots.
It seems the reboots usually occur the most often when the computer is
not being used, and is in idle. I DO NOT have any power saving or
screen savers turned on, so it's nothing like that.
Generally, what happens is this. I leave the computer, often have a
couple web pages and Agent loaded. I normally manually go offline
when I am not using the computer to avoid tying up my phone line
(dialup). So, the computer is doing nothing except sitting there with
a few things on the screen. I come home a few hours later and find
the computer with the C: dos prompt on the screen. (I have shutdown
set to boot to dos). I have to reboot and everything is fine again
until the next occurance of this problem.
Yesterday I was on the computer typing a newsgroup message, and had
several web pages loaded in the background. All of a sudden the
computer just shut off. The screen went black, I heard one long and 4
short beeps, and there was nothing on the screen, and the computer was
shut down, except the power light was still on, but no fans or drives
spinning. I had to shut off the power to get anything to happen,
since CTRL ALT DEL did nothing. When I turned it back on, everything
loaded normally, and I went back online. I bagan to load some web
pages and found the entire system was running so slow I could barely
get the cursor to move. To move it a half inch meant moving the mouse
10 inches on the desk.
I rebooted again, this time leaving the computer off for several
minutes before restarting it. I rebooted again, and everything has
worked fine ever since.
What the f##K is going on?
I will mention that I have run Scandisk as well as Diagnostics from
the manufacturer on both of my hard drives, and they are fine. I
checked both the P.S. fan and CPU fan, and both are running. I also
have tried to remove one of my two RAM strips, and this problem
happens with either (or both) strips. I also pushed all connectors to
be sure they were tight inside the case.
> I have a 1GHZ IBM Netvista computer. I am running Win98se.
> At least once a week, if not several times a week this
> computer will just reboot without any warning. I am not
> referring to the occasional blue screens that happen with
> Win98, those happen once and awhile, and I'm not too
> worried about them, knowing they are just part of Win98,
> and they happen less often than these reboots.
>
> It seems the reboots usually occur the most often when the
> computer is not being used, and is in idle. I DO NOT have
> any power saving or screen savers turned on, so it's
> nothing like that.
>
> Generally, what happens is this. I leave the computer,
> often have a couple web pages and Agent loaded. I normally
> manually go offline when I am not using the computer to
> avoid tying up my phone line (dialup). So, the computer is
> doing nothing except sitting there with a few things on the
> screen. I come home a few hours later and find the
> computer with the C: dos prompt on the screen. (I have
> shutdown set to boot to dos). I have to reboot and
> everything is fine again until the next occurance of this
> problem.
>
> Yesterday I was on the computer typing a newsgroup message,
> and had several web pages loaded in the background. All of
> a sudden the computer just shut off. The screen went
> black, I heard one long and 4 short beeps, and there was
> nothing on the screen, and the computer was shut down,
> except the power light was still on, but no fans or drives
> spinning. I had to shut off the power to get anything to
> happen, since CTRL ALT DEL did nothing. When I turned it
> back on, everything loaded normally, and I went back
> online. I bagan to load some web pages and found the
> entire system was running so slow I could barely get the
> cursor to move. To move it a half inch meant moving the
> mouse 10 inches on the desk.
>
> I rebooted again, this time leaving the computer off for
> several minutes before restarting it. I rebooted again,
> and everything has worked fine ever since.
>
> What the f##K is going on?
>
> I will mention that I have run Scandisk as well as
> Diagnostics from the manufacturer on both of my hard
> drives, and they are fine. I checked both the P.S. fan and
> CPU fan, and both are running. I also have tried to remove
> one of my two RAM strips, and this problem happens with
> either (or both) strips. I also pushed all connectors to
> be sure they were tight inside the case.
>
> The chipset and CPU are Intel.
>
> Anyone have any idea what's going on?
>
>
Greetings,
Do a google on "ibm netvista reboot problem". Sounds like the
problem you're experiencing.
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:06:41 -0600, Tim <timmib.nospam@excite.not.com>
wrote:
>no-email@all.com wrote on 10 Jan 2008
>
>> I have a 1GHZ IBM Netvista computer. I am running Win98se.
>> At least once a week, if not several times a week this
>> computer will just reboot without any warning. I am not
>> referring to the occasional blue screens that happen with
>> Win98, those happen once and awhile, and I'm not too
>> worried about them, knowing they are just part of Win98,
>> and they happen less often than these reboots.
>>
>> It seems the reboots usually occur the most often when the
>> computer is not being used, and is in idle. I DO NOT have
>> any power saving or screen savers turned on, so it's
>> nothing like that.
>>
>> Generally, what happens is this. I leave the computer,
>> often have a couple web pages and Agent loaded. I normally
>> manually go offline when I am not using the computer to
>> avoid tying up my phone line (dialup). So, the computer is
>> doing nothing except sitting there with a few things on the
>> screen. I come home a few hours later and find the
>> computer with the C: dos prompt on the screen. (I have
>> shutdown set to boot to dos). I have to reboot and
>> everything is fine again until the next occurance of this
>> problem.
>>
>> Yesterday I was on the computer typing a newsgroup message,
>> and had several web pages loaded in the background. All of
>> a sudden the computer just shut off. The screen went
>> black, I heard one long and 4 short beeps, and there was
>> nothing on the screen, and the computer was shut down,
>> except the power light was still on, but no fans or drives
>> spinning. I had to shut off the power to get anything to
>> happen, since CTRL ALT DEL did nothing. When I turned it
>> back on, everything loaded normally, and I went back
>> online. I bagan to load some web pages and found the
>> entire system was running so slow I could barely get the
>> cursor to move. To move it a half inch meant moving the
>> mouse 10 inches on the desk.
>>
>> I rebooted again, this time leaving the computer off for
>> several minutes before restarting it. I rebooted again,
>> and everything has worked fine ever since.
>>
>> What the f##K is going on?
>>
>> I will mention that I have run Scandisk as well as
>> Diagnostics from the manufacturer on both of my hard
>> drives, and they are fine. I checked both the P.S. fan and
>> CPU fan, and both are running. I also have tried to remove
>> one of my two RAM strips, and this problem happens with
>> either (or both) strips. I also pushed all connectors to
>> be sure they were tight inside the case.
>>
>> The chipset and CPU are Intel.
>>
>> Anyone have any idea what's going on?
>>
>>
>Greetings,
>
>Do a google on "ibm netvista reboot problem". Sounds like the
>problem you're experiencing.
>
>Tim
I did this and got only one webpage. Yes it does sound like my
problem, but there's no followups to tell what to do to fix it. I
have the model 6341, not the 6578 mentioned on that webpage, but
they're likely similar models being in the 6xxx series.
Maybe it's just time to get rid of this thing and go back to my old
700mhz system until I can buy something newer. I cant go much newer
anyhow, because I want to continue with win98. Xp is not my thing,
and I wont even consider Vista.
By the way, I occasionally run Win2K on this computer, when I swap
hard drives. I have never seen a reboot on 2K, but I use it so seldom
that it's not likely had a chance, and I dont have Win2K setup to go
on the internet.
I really doubt this is a software issue anyhow. Because yesterday
when I did the reboot and it was running so slow the mouse cursor
would barely move, I shut down to Dos, and when I typed DIR, it took
at least a minute to *slowly* show all the dirs in the root directory
of C:, and finally get back to the C: prompt.
> I did this and got only one webpage. Yes it does sound
> like my problem, but there's no followups to tell what to
> do to fix it. I have the model 6341, not the 6578
> mentioned on that webpage, but they're likely similar
> models being in the 6xxx series. Maybe it's just time to
> get rid of this thing and go back to my old 700mhz system
> until I can buy something newer. I cant go much newer
> anyhow, because I want to continue with win98. Xp is not
> my thing, and I wont even consider Vista.
>
I got 2500 hits .... this seemed pertinent, if not typical:
"Hello, I have a simillary problem with 2 netvista 6342,
after call IBM about this problem, they told me, it's a
malfunction of the capacitors around the processeur."
You can look at the capacitors on the mb and specifically around
the cpu to see if there are any pots with domed heads and or
leaks.
>I really doubt this is a software issue anyhow. Because
>yesterday when I did the reboot and it was running so slow
>the mouse cursor would barely move, I shut down to Dos, and
>when I typed DIR, it took at least a minute to *slowly* show
>all the dirs in the root directory of C:, and finally get
>back to the C: prompt.
This really does sound like a mb & heat situation. On one
machine the heat from a tv pci card was enough to throw the
duron 1100 cpu temp to 47 degrees and more. And, the system got
very peculiar! <g> A fan and some relocating of cards fixed
this and brought the cpu temp down to 37C.
As for new mb's ... I had decided to go with an AM2 board. So,
first I've got xp sp2 running on my ol' gigabyte G7xe with a
duron 1000mhz as a test, so to speak. <s&g> It is more stable
in some situations but is still too obnoxiously M$. Still, it
is possible to clean down a bunch of services and media related
junk ... but not exactly a clean machine. LOL!
Last time I looked there were some mbs on NewEgg which had
driver support for 98se, and most support 2K I think.
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:06:21 -0600, Tim
<timmib.nospam@excite.not.com> wrote:
>>I really doubt this is a software issue anyhow. Because
>>yesterday when I did the reboot and it was running so slow
>>the mouse cursor would barely move, I shut down to Dos, and
>>when I typed DIR, it took at least a minute to *slowly* show
>>all the dirs in the root directory of C:, and finally get
>>back to the C: prompt.
>
>This really does sound like a mb & heat situation.
While he may have a motherboard failure-in-progress, the
above paragraph sounds more like a drive or drive cabling
failure. Granted the heat can effect a drive as well but
often that comes in the form of lockups instead of very
sluggish behavior.
Since the data on the drive could be at risk I suggest
running the HDD manufacturer's diagnostics on it, then
powering off the system, unplugging the hard drive so it has
no further wear on it for awhile while running memtest86+ to
check for memory errors - since if the system has memory
errors they ought to be corrected, OR the drive moved to
another system first, before trying to copy data off if the
drive were failing.
It sounds like either the power supply unit and/or the motherboard are
failing. The easiest way to find out which is to replace the PSU with a
known working one and see if that fixes the problem.
--
--DaveW
<no-email@all.com> wrote in message
news:f8tco3hkkdvurfb88a718aj4sd8dfmrg4b@4ax.com...
>I have a 1GHZ IBM Netvista computer. I am running Win98se.
> At least once a week, if not several times a week this computer will
> just reboot without any warning. I am not referring to the occasional
> blue screens that happen with Win98, those happen once and awhile, and
> I'm not too worried about them, knowing they are just part of Win98,
> and they happen less often than these reboots.
>
> It seems the reboots usually occur the most often when the computer is
> not being used, and is in idle. I DO NOT have any power saving or
> screen savers turned on, so it's nothing like that.
>
> Generally, what happens is this. I leave the computer, often have a
> couple web pages and Agent loaded. I normally manually go offline
> when I am not using the computer to avoid tying up my phone line
> (dialup). So, the computer is doing nothing except sitting there with
> a few things on the screen. I come home a few hours later and find
> the computer with the C: dos prompt on the screen. (I have shutdown
> set to boot to dos). I have to reboot and everything is fine again
> until the next occurance of this problem.
>
> Yesterday I was on the computer typing a newsgroup message, and had
> several web pages loaded in the background. All of a sudden the
> computer just shut off. The screen went black, I heard one long and 4
> short beeps, and there was nothing on the screen, and the computer was
> shut down, except the power light was still on, but no fans or drives
> spinning. I had to shut off the power to get anything to happen,
> since CTRL ALT DEL did nothing. When I turned it back on, everything
> loaded normally, and I went back online. I bagan to load some web
> pages and found the entire system was running so slow I could barely
> get the cursor to move. To move it a half inch meant moving the mouse
> 10 inches on the desk.
>
> I rebooted again, this time leaving the computer off for several
> minutes before restarting it. I rebooted again, and everything has
> worked fine ever since.
>
> What the f##K is going on?
>
> I will mention that I have run Scandisk as well as Diagnostics from
> the manufacturer on both of my hard drives, and they are fine. I
> checked both the P.S. fan and CPU fan, and both are running. I also
> have tried to remove one of my two RAM strips, and this problem
> happens with either (or both) strips. I also pushed all connectors to
> be sure they were tight inside the case.
>
> The chipset and CPU are Intel.
>
> Anyone have any idea what's going on?
>
no-email@all.com wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
> I did this and got only one webpage. Yes it does sound like my
> problem, but there's no followups to tell what to do to fix it. I
> have the model 6341, not the 6578 mentioned on that webpage, but
> they're likely similar models being in the 6xxx series.
> Maybe it's just time to get rid of this thing and go back to my old
> 700mhz system until I can buy something newer. I cant go much newer
> anyhow, because I want to continue with win98. Xp is not my thing,
> and I wont even consider Vista.
Consider mounting Linux. Ubuntu would be a good choice. You can
even dual boot if you wish. Try <http://shipit.ubuntu.com>
--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.
no-email@all.com wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:06:41 -0600, Tim <timmib.nospam@excite.not.com>
> wrote:
>
>> no-email@all.com wrote on 10 Jan 2008
>>
>>> I have a 1GHZ IBM Netvista computer. I am running Win98se.
>>> At least once a week, if not several times a week this
>>> computer will just reboot without any warning. I am not
>>> referring to the occasional blue screens that happen with
>>> Win98, those happen once and awhile, and I'm not too
>>> worried about them, knowing they are just part of Win98,
>>> and they happen less often than these reboots.
>>>
>>> It seems the reboots usually occur the most often when the
>>> computer is not being used, and is in idle. I DO NOT have
>>> any power saving or screen savers turned on, so it's
>>> nothing like that.
>>>
>>> Generally, what happens is this. I leave the computer,
>>> often have a couple web pages and Agent loaded. I normally
>>> manually go offline when I am not using the computer to
>>> avoid tying up my phone line (dialup). So, the computer is
>>> doing nothing except sitting there with a few things on the
>>> screen. I come home a few hours later and find the
>>> computer with the C: dos prompt on the screen. (I have
>>> shutdown set to boot to dos). I have to reboot and
>>> everything is fine again until the next occurance of this
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I was on the computer typing a newsgroup message,
>>> and had several web pages loaded in the background. All of
>>> a sudden the computer just shut off. The screen went
>>> black, I heard one long and 4 short beeps, and there was
>>> nothing on the screen, and the computer was shut down,
>>> except the power light was still on, but no fans or drives
>>> spinning. I had to shut off the power to get anything to
>>> happen, since CTRL ALT DEL did nothing. When I turned it
>>> back on, everything loaded normally, and I went back
>>> online. I bagan to load some web pages and found the
>>> entire system was running so slow I could barely get the
>>> cursor to move. To move it a half inch meant moving the
>>> mouse 10 inches on the desk.
>>>
>>> I rebooted again, this time leaving the computer off for
>>> several minutes before restarting it. I rebooted again,
>>> and everything has worked fine ever since.
>>>
>>> What the f##K is going on?
>>>
>>> I will mention that I have run Scandisk as well as
>>> Diagnostics from the manufacturer on both of my hard
>>> drives, and they are fine. I checked both the P.S. fan and
>>> CPU fan, and both are running. I also have tried to remove
>>> one of my two RAM strips, and this problem happens with
>>> either (or both) strips. I also pushed all connectors to
>>> be sure they were tight inside the case.
>>>
>>> The chipset and CPU are Intel.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any idea what's going on?
>>>
>>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Do a google on "ibm netvista reboot problem". Sounds like the
>> problem you're experiencing.
>>
>> Tim
>
> I did this and got only one webpage. Yes it does sound like my
> problem, but there's no followups to tell what to do to fix it. I
> have the model 6341, not the 6578 mentioned on that webpage, but
> they're likely similar models being in the 6xxx series.
> Maybe it's just time to get rid of this thing and go back to my old
> 700mhz system until I can buy something newer. I cant go much newer
> anyhow, because I want to continue with win98. Xp is not my thing,
> and I wont even consider Vista.
>
> By the way, I occasionally run Win2K on this computer, when I swap
> hard drives. I have never seen a reboot on 2K, but I use it so seldom
> that it's not likely had a chance, and I dont have Win2K setup to go
> on the internet.
>
> I really doubt this is a software issue anyhow. Because yesterday
> when I did the reboot and it was running so slow the mouse cursor
> would barely move, I shut down to Dos, and when I typed DIR, it took
> at least a minute to *slowly* show all the dirs in the root directory
> of C:, and finally get back to the C: prompt.
>
> Thanks
When mine went through this problem, I pulled the memory out and
reseated it, both sticks. No more problem. I'm not saying this will work
for you, but in my case it did. It was passing a win memory test most of
the time but failed a couple times. That's what made me suspect memory.
In my case the memory is still fine but one (or more) of the memory
slots were bad. It's something to try.
> I have a 1GHZ IBM Netvista computer. I am running Win98se.
> At least once a week, if not several times a week this computer will
> just reboot without any warning. I am not referring to the occasional
> blue screens that happen with Win98, those happen once and awhile, and
> I'm not too worried about them, knowing they are just part of Win98,
> and they happen less often than these reboots.
<snip>
I only read the first part then quick browsed through the whole message
trying to catch some important part but don't see any hi-lited part, so I
may miss it/them.
But just by reading the first part it seems like the CPU may get overheat
(if not power supply). And I would try to BLOW the dirt off the CPU and CPU
cooler hoping it will help.
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