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Old 04-10-2007, 02:03 PM
GT
 
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Default 4 pins for the speaker?

Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker connector
4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg) wire on pin 1
and red (pos) wire to pin 4.

Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)


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Old 04-10-2007, 02:34 PM
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"GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
> connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg) wire
> on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>
> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)

Your motherboard manual should be able to tell you.


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Old 04-10-2007, 03:29 PM
GT
 
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"meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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>
> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:461b8a6a$0$3795$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
>> connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg)
>> wire on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>>
>> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)

> Your motherboard manual should be able to tell you.


I think they [motherboards] are all the same. The manual just indicates
which pins are for the speakers - doesn't say why there are 4.


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Old 04-10-2007, 03:34 PM
Pen
 
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GT wrote:
> "meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
> news:hnMSh.5350$nM6.1768@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:461b8a6a$0$3795$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
>>> connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg)
>>> wire on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>>>
>>> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)

>> Your motherboard manual should be able to tell you.

>
> I think they [motherboards] are all the same. The manual just indicates
> which pins are for the speakers - doesn't say why there are 4.
>
>

Most likely to keep one from confusing the fan, switch and speaker
connectors from each other.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:35 PM
Pen
 
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GT wrote:
> "meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
> news:hnMSh.5350$nM6.1768@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:461b8a6a$0$3795$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
>>> connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg)
>>> wire on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>>>
>>> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)

>> Your motherboard manual should be able to tell you.

>
> I think they [motherboards] are all the same. The manual just indicates
> which pins are for the speakers - doesn't say why there are 4.
>
>

Most likely to keep one from confusing the fan, switch and speaker
connectors from each other.

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Old 04-10-2007, 04:01 PM
GT
 
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"Pen" <pen34usnospam@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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> GT wrote:
>> "meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
>> news:hnMSh.5350$nM6.1768@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:461b8a6a$0$3795$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
>>>> connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg)
>>>> wire on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>>>>
>>>> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)
>>> Your motherboard manual should be able to tell you.

>>
>> I think they [motherboards] are all the same. The manual just indicates
>> which pins are for the speakers - doesn't say why there are 4.

> Most likely to keep one from confusing the fan, switch and speaker
> connectors from each other.


Fair point - I didn't think of that as my speaker connector says spk on it,
but I guess they don't all have that.


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Old 04-10-2007, 05:12 PM
Noozer
 
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"GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
> connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg) wire
> on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>
> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)


They've been like this since the original PC. +5v, gnd, sound and a
"missing" pin so you couldn't plug it in backwards. That's why there's four.


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Old 04-18-2007, 01:01 AM
~misfit~
 
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Noozer wrote:
> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:461b8a6a$0$3795$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> > Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker
> > connector 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black
> > (neg) wire on pin 1 and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
> >
> > Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)

>
> They've been like this since the original PC. +5v, gnd, sound and a
> "missing" pin so you couldn't plug it in backwards. That's why
> there's four.


However, for the longest time most cases have only used two wires, not
three.

But you're right, going back to pre-486 days (as far as my opening-cases
history goes) it was always so. Speaker headers have four pins.

I've actually seen some PCs, can't remember all of them except one was an
IMB ~400MHz Celeron, that output Windows sound to the PC speaker. The
speaker was a little more robust than the usual 0.5W thing but not
significantly so.
--
Shaun.


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Old 04-21-2007, 07:47 PM
Plato
 
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GT wrote:
>
> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker connector
> 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg) wire on pin 1
> and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>
> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)


Sometimes the speaker wire to the motherboard will even have pin 2 or 3
blocked out. If's that's the case then just cut the connector in half or
drill through the blocked pin 2 or 3 on the speaker connector. It
doesn't matter which way you connect it either as either way will work.


--
http://www.bootdisk.com/

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Old 04-21-2007, 09:50 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: 4 pins for the speaker?

On 21 Apr 2007 13:47:02 -0500, Plato <|@|.|> wrote:

>GT wrote:
>>
>> Why does the PC speaker header need 4 pins and why is the speaker connector
>> 4 pins wide, but only use pin 1 and 4. I have a black (neg) wire on pin 1
>> and red (pos) wire to pin 4.
>>
>> Can the motherboard handle 2 speakers (stereo perhaps?)

>
>Sometimes the speaker wire to the motherboard will even have pin 2 or 3
>blocked out. If's that's the case then just cut the connector in half or
>drill through the blocked pin 2 or 3 on the speaker connector. It
>doesn't matter which way you connect it either as either way will work.



Anyone who doesn't have drill bits that small (since what
you'd typically find in a hardware store or generic drill
bit pack is no smaller than 1/16", way too big for this
purpose) can instead heat up a needle hot enough to melt
it's way into the blanked position on the connector, then
use a knife to trim away any flared material remaining on
the surface.
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