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Old 02-20-2008, 08:51 PM
scott michaels
 
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Default How fragile are blu-ray discs

How easily are blu-ray discs (I guess it really does not matter with
HD-DVD)?

Compared to dvds, cds are indestructable. Is there a similar difference
between dvd and blu-ray?
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:07 PM
Derek Janssen
 
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Default Re: How fragile are blu-ray discs

scott michaels wrote:
> How easily are blu-ray discs (I guess it really does not matter with
> HD-DVD)?
>
> Compared to dvds, cds are indestructable. Is there a similar difference
> between dvd and blu-ray?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ

Derek Janssen (don't know about "indestructable", but they're definitely
*thicker*)
ejanss1@verizon.net
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:20 AM
Aaron Lawrence
 
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Default Re: How fragile are blu-ray discs

On a pleasant day while strolling in alt.video.dvd, a
person by the name of scott michaels exclaimed:
> How easily are blu-ray discs (I guess it really does not matter with
> HD-DVD)?
>
> Compared to dvds, cds are indestructable. Is there a similar difference
> between dvd and blu-ray?


Supposedly blu-ray is quite robust - at least scratch
resistant, because of the special coating they got.
HD-DVD is the same materials as DVD but with the higher
data density, more easily damaged than DVD.



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Old 02-22-2008, 06:04 AM
Mccain
 
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Default Re: How fragile are blu-ray discs


"Aaron Lawrence" <aaronlNOSPAM@NOSPAMconsultant.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.222825b728e7661d9897a6@news20.forteinc.co m...
> On a pleasant day while strolling in alt.video.dvd, a
> person by the name of scott michaels exclaimed:
>> How easily are blu-ray discs (I guess it really does not matter with
>> HD-DVD)?
>>
>> Compared to dvds, cds are indestructable. Is there a similar difference
>> between dvd and blu-ray?

>
> Supposedly blu-ray is quite robust - at least scratch
> resistant, because of the special coating they got.
> HD-DVD is the same materials as DVD but with the higher
> data density, more easily damaged than DVD.
>


I'd say the are exactly the same. Beta Ray records it's data close to the
upper edge of the disc which makes it more vulnerable then other optical
media so an extra coating is applied to protect the data. but that coating
is not strong and is causing problems. Many discs have been "rotting" and
"spotting"already and I've seen coatings turn brownish from hot drives
running in demo machines all day. At least that is what my manager told me.

Just look up blu Ray rot in a search engine.

I think a good time to consider buying a player would be late fall 2009
Early 2010. By then we should know what the next big thing will be and Beta
Ray specs will be at at least profile 2.0 or 2.5 with cheapers drives around
and movies..hopefully and the bugs should be mostly worked out.


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Old 02-25-2008, 10:09 PM
grant kinsley
 
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Default Re: How fragile are blu-ray discs

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:04:58 GMT, "Mccain"
<hollyspanning*****@usa.com> wrote:

>
>"Aaron Lawrence" <aaronlNOSPAM@NOSPAMconsultant.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.222825b728e7661d9897a6@news20.forteinc.c om...
>> On a pleasant day while strolling in alt.video.dvd, a
>> person by the name of scott michaels exclaimed:
>>> How easily are blu-ray discs (I guess it really does not matter with
>>> HD-DVD)?
>>>
>>> Compared to dvds, cds are indestructable. Is there a similar difference
>>> between dvd and blu-ray?

>>
>> Supposedly blu-ray is quite robust - at least scratch
>> resistant, because of the special coating they got.
>> HD-DVD is the same materials as DVD but with the higher
>> data density, more easily damaged than DVD.
>>

>
>I'd say the are exactly the same. Beta Ray records it's data close to the
>upper edge of the disc which makes it more vulnerable then other optical
>media so an extra coating is applied to protect the data. but that coating
>is not strong and is causing problems. Many discs have been "rotting" and
>"spotting"already and I've seen coatings turn brownish from hot drives
>running in demo machines all day. At least that is what my manager told me.
>
>Just look up blu Ray rot in a search engine.
>
>I think a good time to consider buying a player would be late fall 2009
>Early 2010. By then we should know what the next big thing will be and Beta
>Ray specs will be at at least profile 2.0 or 2.5 with cheapers drives around
>and movies..hopefully and the bugs should be mostly worked out.
>


just the fact that he uses the term Beta-Ray shows his strong
anti-blu-ray bias. I would take the commentary about rot with a giant
piece of salt.

G

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Old 02-26-2008, 02:38 AM
Philly
 
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"grant kinsley" <sawbones@uniserve.com> wrote in message
news:dji6s3hsd5u6sdvoeipjjbql9vk5p9tp9s@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:04:58 GMT, "Mccain"
> <hollyspanning*****@usa.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Aaron Lawrence" <aaronlNOSPAM@NOSPAMconsultant.com> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.222825b728e7661d9897a6@news20.forteinc. com...
>>> On a pleasant day while strolling in alt.video.dvd, a
>>> person by the name of scott michaels exclaimed:
>>>> How easily are blu-ray discs (I guess it really does not matter with
>>>> HD-DVD)?
>>>>
>>>> Compared to dvds, cds are indestructable. Is there a similar difference
>>>> between dvd and blu-ray?
>>>
>>> Supposedly blu-ray is quite robust - at least scratch
>>> resistant, because of the special coating they got.
>>> HD-DVD is the same materials as DVD but with the higher
>>> data density, more easily damaged than DVD.
>>>

>>
>>I'd say the are exactly the same. Beta Ray records it's data close to the
>>upper edge of the disc which makes it more vulnerable then other optical
>>media so an extra coating is applied to protect the data. but that coating
>>is not strong and is causing problems. Many discs have been "rotting" and
>>"spotting"already and I've seen coatings turn brownish from hot drives
>>running in demo machines all day. At least that is what my manager told
>>me.
>>
>>Just look up blu Ray rot in a search engine.
>>
>>I think a good time to consider buying a player would be late fall 2009
>>Early 2010. By then we should know what the next big thing will be and
>>Beta
>>Ray specs will be at at least profile 2.0 or 2.5 with cheapers drives
>>around
>>and movies..hopefully and the bugs should be mostly worked out.
>>

>
> just the fact that he uses the term Beta-Ray shows his strong
> anti-blu-ray bias. I would take the commentary about rot with a giant
> piece of salt.
>
> G
>


Is it finished? no. It's in beta.
Yeah I have a PS3 and profile 1.0 player and HD-DVD but call it what it
is... Beta Ray

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=857067


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