Another speed bump for mass market adoption of Blu-Ray?

The following is from www.imdb.com, which references Video Business as
its source:

The major studios plan to offer high-definition movies on cable and
satellite on demand even before they are released on DVD and Blu-ray.
As reported by Video Business, the MPAA has filed a petition with the
FCC seeking permission to use anti-copying encryption, currently
barred by FCC regulations, for the high-definition video service. "In
order to make this extremely high-value content available for in-home
viewing at such an early window, protections are necessary to deter
unauthorized copying or redistribution of the content," the MPAA
petition said. Few details about the high-definition service were
included in the petition, which said merely that if it is approved,
"each film studio will make its own decision about how, when and with
which partners it might use this option."

The alMIGHTY N wrote:

> The following is from www.imdb.com, which references Video Business as
> its source:
>
> The major studios plan to offer high-definition movies on cable and
> satellite on demand even before they are released on DVD and Blu-ray.

The download industry is ITSELF a speed bump:
Something annoying that sits as a big lump in the middle of the road,
and which nobody ever notices, until they HAAAAVE to slow down and play
along with somebody *else's* party-pooper idea of what they thought
"had" to be in the road, before the normal drivers can speed back up
again to what they were doing, and ignore it in the rear-view mirror
behind them...

> As reported by Video Business, the MPAA has filed a petition with the
> FCC seeking permission to use anti-copying encryption, currently
> barred by FCC regulations, for the high-definition video service. "In
> order to make this extremely high-value content available for in-home
> viewing at such an early window, protections are necessary to deter
> unauthorized copying or redistribution of the content," the MPAA
> petition said. Few details about the high-definition service were
> included in the petition, which said merely that if it is approved,
> "each film studio will make its own decision about how, when and with
> which partners it might use this option."

And tech-standards anarchy reigns once more...
The hi-def disk industry had the right idea: Join tech standards, or
die disunited.

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net

The alMIGHTY N wrote:
> The following is from www.imdb.com, which references Video Business as
> its source:
>
> The major studios plan to offer high-definition movies on cable and
> satellite on demand even before they are released on DVD and Blu-ray.

It may hurt rentals, but I doubt very much it will have much effect on
sales. For one thing, cable/satellite HDTV sucks in comparison to
Blu-ray, and for another, people aren't going to want to pay more than
once to watch a movie they really like. (Yeah, geeks will probably be
able to burn PPV HDTV, but we're talking about mainstream.)

Tarkus wrote:

> The alMIGHTY N wrote:
>
>> The following is from www.imdb.com, which references Video Business as
>> its source:
>>
>> The major studios plan to offer high-definition movies on cable and
>> satellite on demand even before they are released on DVD and Blu-ray.
>
>
> It may hurt rentals, but I doubt very much it will have much effect on
> sales. For one thing, cable/satellite HDTV sucks in comparison to
> Blu-ray, and for another, people aren't going to want to pay more than
> once to watch a movie they really like. (Yeah, geeks will probably be
> able to burn PPV HDTV, but we're talking about mainstream.)

Good luck--Thanks to that "Copy protection...that studios may decide for
themselves how and when to use", we're in for another few years of
exactly what we've got now:
Obscure and paranoiacally guarded studio offerings on exclusive
software, to prevent any united standards that might, horrors, make it
easy for geeks to copy.

If you want to get your download movies the HARD way (and presumably
have a Windows-based system or want to shell out for some third-party
AppleTV "competitor"), studios will be more than happy to oblige.

Derek Janssen (and the irony is, they think they're beating disk
sales/rentals because it's, quote, "easier" to watch the movie... )
ejanss1@verizon.net

Derek Janssen wrote:
> Derek Janssen (and the irony is, they think they're beating disk
> sales/rentals because it's, quote, "easier" to watch the movie... )

Although free "On Demand" is sometimes convenient, for rentals, I still
prefer the Netflix/Redbox models compared to anything else I've seen
proffered. Regular PPV is too expensive and too inconvenient.

And I wouldn't even dream of renting online streaming; I'd sooner
download the movie from a torrent site and have it permanently, or at
least watch at my convenience.

It's kind of funny how some want to look for any excuse to put Blu-ray
in its coffin. Its popularity and shelf life are yet to be determined,
to be sure, but there will always be a permanent, collectible format,
IMO. And it won't always be DVD.

Tarkus wrote:
>
> It's kind of funny how some want to look for any excuse to put Blu-ray
> in its coffin. Its popularity and shelf life are yet to be determined,
> to be sure, but there will always be a permanent, collectible format,
> IMO. And it won't always be DVD.

How many times do we have to explain it?--It's the studio's El Dorado,
and they'll keep digging up Florida to find it:

Studios were first disgruntled back in the 80's about this new
"Beta"-thingy letting audiences not see movies in theaters and stay home
(and depriving them of theater royalties)--Unless, of course, they were
watching them on those expensive network-TV showings, or licensed HBO
rotations.
Until some nut came up with the idea of *renting* those expensive black
tapes, and then studios realized they didn't have to worry after
all...They'd get a cut of anybody who rented "E.T.", any where, any
time, for any showing, and they'd make a little off the side if anyone
wanted to *buy* it on tape!

Then disk came along, and EVERYTHING was for sale.
Not that studios don't get royalties on a few Blockbuster rentals now
and again, but studios can see Control slipping from their fingers with
every new DVD-acceptance development...Overenthusiastic disk fans
wishfully gushing over the "Death of the cineplex" doesn't exactly do
wonders for their antiperspirant either.
And as long as there's *one* insecure studio still dreaming that Golden
Dream of an industry where every single screening of a Smash Hollywood
Hit having a running taxi-meter attached to it--with all the proceeds
going to your friendly and generous studio--the dream will never die.
Never. Even crosses, holy water, and sane rational explanations won't
work. They'll be pumping Download-Technology-of-the-Week down our
throats ten years from now, and with the exact same ad copy.

(Simply put, y'know how medieval Cardinals and land barons thought
Gutenberg's printing press was evil, because they worried it might teach
peasants to read, and would break their own feudal stranglehold monopoly
on information?
DVD has become the Printing Press of Hollywood.)

Derek Janssen (and just call us the Martin Luthers of Blu-Ray) ^_^
ejanss1@verizon.net

On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:36:34 -0700 (PDT), The alMIGHTY N
<natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>The major studios plan to offer high-definition movies on cable and
>satellite on demand even before they are released on DVD and Blu-ray.


Yet still at a lower "def" than the BD discs, which will STILL be the
best way to COLLECT the most advanced format for a film release.

It will be the norm for some time to come.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:24:03 -0700, Tarkus <karnevil9@atlantabraves.net>
wrote:

>And I wouldn't even dream of renting online streaming; I'd sooner
>download the movie from a torrent site and have it permanently, or at
>least watch at my convenience.


I went to see TFK two weeks ago. It is on it's third week now?

I DLd it from a torrent three days ago, and I am astounded at the DVD+
quality level of the sub-CD sized datagram. It was practically flawless.

Not bad for a Divx AVI file.

It has since been deleted. Still... pretty wild ****.

Tarkus <karnevil9@atlantabraves.net> wrote in
news:X8WdnVD46ctmPanVnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@earthlink.co m:

> Derek Janssen wrote:
>> Derek Janssen (and the irony is, they think they're beating disk
>> sales/rentals because it's, quote, "easier" to watch the movie... )
>
> Although free "On Demand" is sometimes convenient, for rentals, I still
> prefer the Netflix/Redbox models compared to anything else I've seen
> proffered. Regular PPV is too expensive and too inconvenient.
>
> And I wouldn't even dream of renting online streaming; I'd sooner
> download the movie from a torrent site and have it permanently, or at
> least watch at my convenience.
>
> It's kind of funny how some want to look for any excuse to put Blu-ray
> in its coffin. Its popularity and shelf life are yet to be determined,
> to be sure, but there will always be a permanent, collectible format,
> IMO. And it won't always be DVD.
>

I guess none of these people have seen Blu Ray at 1080p On a good TV.
Nothing off of the air can duplicate that picture.

skip wrote:
> I guess none of these people have seen Blu Ray at 1080p On a good TV.
> Nothing off of the air can duplicate that picture.

Of course not. But their side lost, so now HD on disc sucks.