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Old 07-01-2009, 04:32 AM
Jeff@b.invalid
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Default modern DVD recorders and copy protection

I have a question about DVD recorders; the type that connects to a HDTV (not
the DVD recorders in a PC).

I understand that any one buys today will have copy protection built in them
thus limiting what they will be able to record off cable TV. Is that true?
If it is true is there any way to disable that "feature" in a purchased
unit?

Thanks.

Jeff


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Old 07-01-2009, 08:52 AM
Paul Heslop
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Default Re: modern DVD recorders and copy protection

Jeff@b.invalid wrote:
>
> I have a question about DVD recorders; the type that connects to a HDTV (not
> the DVD recorders in a PC).
>
> I understand that any one buys today will have copy protection built in them
> thus limiting what they will be able to record off cable TV. Is that true?
> If it is true is there any way to disable that "feature" in a purchased
> unit?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff


the ones I have had have all had this 'feature' though it can be
infuriating in that either the signal sent by the channels or the
machine itself gets carried away and bars you from channels which
don't actually have copy protection. In truth in the UK it is mainly
the PPV channels which have this embedded.

I think some retailers offer to remove it and there are also devices
you can plug in between cable/satellite set top boxes which will
remove protection, but I can't vouch for either method as I haven't
had them.

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Old 07-01-2009, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: modern DVD recorders and copy protection

In article <9NA2m.220$Qk7.150@newsfe22.iad>, Jeff@b.invalid says...
>
>I have a question about DVD recorders; the type that connects to a HDTV (not
>the DVD recorders in a PC).
>
>I understand that any one buys today will have copy protection built in them
>thus limiting what they will be able to record off cable TV. Is that true?
>If it is true is there any way to disable that "feature" in a purchased
>unit?
>

They won't copy any source that has macrovision copy protection imbedded in
the signal. That includes many VHS prerecorded movie tapes and DVD movies.

Cable TV signals may or may not have such protection imbedded; I was under the
impression that most US cable providers don't imbed it. Europe may be
different.

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Old 07-01-2009, 03:12 PM
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In article <9NA2m.220$Qk7.150@newsfe22.iad>, <Jeff@b.invalid> wrote:
>I have a question about DVD recorders; the type that connects to a HDTV (not
>the DVD recorders in a PC).
>
>I understand that any one buys today will have copy protection built in them
>thus limiting what they will be able to record off cable TV. Is that true?


Premium content and PPV on HBO (and its sister companies) typically have
CGMS-A activated.

>If it is true is there any way to disable that "feature" in a purchased
>unit?


Hack the firmware.

Install a device in between the cbale box and the recorder which removes
this signal such as a "video stabilizer" or time base corrector.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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Mike S. wrote:
> In article <9NA2m.220$Qk7.150@newsfe22.iad>, <Jeff@b.invalid> wrote:
>> I have a question about DVD recorders; the type that connects to a
>> HDTV (not the DVD recorders in a PC).
>>
>> I understand that any one buys today will have copy protection built
>> in them thus limiting what they will be able to record off cable TV.
>> Is that true?

>
> Premium content and PPV on HBO (and its sister companies) typically
> have CGMS-A activated.
>
>> If it is true is there any way to disable that "feature" in a
>> purchased unit?

>
> Hack the firmware.


Is that possible? How?

> Install a device in between the cbale box and the recorder which
> removes this signal such as a "video stabilizer" or time base
> corrector.



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Old 07-01-2009, 08:57 PM
Mike S.
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Default Re: modern DVD recorders and copy protection


In article <hVN2m.981$Wx7.392@newsfe04.iad>, <Jeff@b.invalid> wrote:
>Mike S. wrote:
>> In article <9NA2m.220$Qk7.150@newsfe22.iad>, <Jeff@b.invalid> wrote:
>>> I have a question about DVD recorders; the type that connects to a
>>> HDTV (not the DVD recorders in a PC).
>>>
>>> I understand that any one buys today will have copy protection built
>>> in them thus limiting what they will be able to record off cable TV.
>>> Is that true?

>>
>> Premium content and PPV on HBO (and its sister companies) typically
>> have CGMS-A activated.
>>
>>> If it is true is there any way to disable that "feature" in a
>>> purchased unit?

>>
>> Hack the firmware.

>
>Is that possible? How?


Hacked firmware for various (mostly early) models of standalone DVD
recorders are "out there". Many of them were noname Chinese-designed
models that used common chipsets and firmware code which hackers
disassembled and learned how to patch. Most of there models are long
discontinued; victims of litigation and/or declining interest by the
consumer in this type of product.


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Old 07-18-2009, 07:25 AM
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