Ever seen this? Old machine won't read CD written by new machine(Windows)

Windows Vista, using Nero, using ISO (lowest level) for data, but when
CD with data inserted into old Pentium running under Windows 2000, the
CD not recognized. THe old CD-ROM reader works, since it reads other
(commercial) CDs.

Why? I speculate perhaps the commercial CDs have a stronger
imprinting of data, and somehow the read head is weak or something.

RL

It could be ...

Older CD-Drives might recognise CD(74), but not CD-R(74), or not
CD-RW(74), or not CD-R(80), or not CD-RW(80).

As far as audio is concerned, all my PCs have newish drives and
recognise all types, but
1) My DVD-Recorder also recognises and plays all CD types.
2) The CD Player in the lounge only recognises CD(74) and CD-R(74),
none of the others
3) The car stereo only recognises 74 minute types, none of the 80
minute types

Perhaps you are encountering the data equivalent of this problem. You
might find that if it's an 80min ISO (I forget the MB equivalent), you
might be able to win by copying the data files to a 640MB (74min) CD-R
or CD-RW - that is, if they'll fit.

It also *might* just be possible that if you upgrade the firmware of
an older drive, it may able to recognise newer CD types, though I have
no experience of this.

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:25:50 -0700 (PDT), raylopez99
<raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Windows Vista, using Nero, using ISO (lowest level) for data, but when
> CD with data inserted into old Pentium running under Windows 2000, the
> CD not recognized. THe old CD-ROM reader works, since it reads other
> (commercial) CDs.

Maybe the recorded speed is faster than your cd can read?


"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1c6458ce-ba0a-4e37-bb2f-76e83d9012a8@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Windows Vista, using Nero, using ISO (lowest level) for data, but when
> CD with data inserted into old Pentium running under Windows 2000, the
> CD not recognized. THe old CD-ROM reader works, since it reads other
> (commercial) CDs.
>
> Why? I speculate perhaps the commercial CDs have a stronger
> imprinting of data, and somehow the read head is weak or something.
>
> RL

"Bill" <bargerw@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:51NKj.19940$%15.13025@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
> Maybe the recorded speed is faster than your cd can read?
>
>
> "raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1c6458ce-ba0a-4e37-bb2f-76e83d9012a8@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> Windows Vista, using Nero, using ISO (lowest level) for data, but when
>> CD with data inserted into old Pentium running under Windows 2000, the
>> CD not recognized. THe old CD-ROM reader works, since it reads other
>> (commercial) CDs.
>>
>> Why? I speculate perhaps the commercial CDs have a stronger
>> imprinting of data, and somehow the read head is weak or something.
>>
>> RL
>
>


Now that's FUNNY!

I'm writing this really slow, 'cause I know you can't read very fast.



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On 4/08/2008, Colon Terminus posted this:
> "Bill" <bargerw@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:51NKj.19940$%15.13025@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
>> Maybe the recorded speed is faster than your cd can read?
>>
>>
>> "raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1c6458ce-ba0a-4e37-bb2f-76e83d9012a8@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>> Windows Vista, using Nero, using ISO (lowest level) for data, but when
>>> CD with data inserted into old Pentium running under Windows 2000, the
>>> CD not recognized. THe old CD-ROM reader works, since it reads other
>>> (commercial) CDs.
>>>
>>> Why? I speculate perhaps the commercial CDs have a stronger
>>> imprinting of data, and somehow the read head is weak or something.
>>>
>>> RL
>>
>>
>
>
> Now that's FUNNY!
>
> I'm writing this really slow, 'cause I know you can't read very fast.

:-)

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"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1c6458ce-ba0a-4e37-bb2f-76e83d9012a8@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Windows Vista, using Nero, using ISO (lowest level) for data, but when
> CD with data inserted into old Pentium running under Windows 2000, the
> CD not recognized. THe old CD-ROM reader works, since it reads other
> (commercial) CDs.
>
> Why? I speculate perhaps the commercial CDs have a stronger
> imprinting of data, and somehow the read head is weak or something.
>
> RL

Sorta true. Printed CD have higher reflectivity so are "easier" to read.
It might also be improved by using a slower write speed and not for the
reason given previously:-)
Its just that the quality of the written bit may be better if the CD is
written at a slower speed.

Is it by any chance a CDRW?

Some old CDROM drives, including many old audio CD-players, can't read
CDRW:s

Some first generation DVD players had a similar problem where they
could not read CDR:s, but read CDRW:s just fine.

On Apr 9, 3:19*am, Thomas Tornblom <tho...@Hax.SE> wrote:
> Is it by any chance a CDRW?
>
> Some old CDROM drives, including many old audio CD-players, can't read
> CDRW:s
>
> Some first generation DVD players had a similar problem where they
> could not read CDR:s, but read CDRW:s just fine.

The CD-ROM was a CD-R CD (52x), written in Windows Vista on a modern
machine using the "Windows 98" default parameters, which are "ISO"
compliant but don't allow more than 8 characters per file name, and
more than 256 char max, no more than 8 sub-directories, etc. The
machine reading is a 10+ year old Pentium II.

I think the problem might indeed perhaps be the write speed--I let the
machine, a Core 2 Duo, write at the maximum speed (I forget what it
was). The old machine, the Pentium II, is very antiquated as it only
has a few hundred MB RAM, and sometimes it will give an error
searching on a HD (since it times out). Later, I'll try writing the
CD using a slower speed.

Thanks,

RL

They do not under the speed thing...





The CD-ROM was a CD-R CD (52x), written in Windows Vista on a modern
machine using the "Windows 98" default parameters, which are "ISO"
compliant but don't allow more than 8 characters per file name, and
more than 256 char max, no more than 8 sub-directories, etc. The
machine reading is a 10+ year old Pentium II.

I think the problem might indeed perhaps be the write speed--I let the
machine, a Core 2 Duo, write at the maximum speed (I forget what it
was). The old machine, the Pentium II, is very antiquated as it only
has a few hundred MB RAM, and sometimes it will give an error
searching on a HD (since it times out). Later, I'll try writing the
CD using a slower speed.

Thanks,

RL

On 4/12/2008, raylopez99 posted this:
> On Apr 9, 3:19*am, Thomas Tornblom <tho...@Hax.SE> wrote:
>> Is it by any chance a CDRW?
>>
>> Some old CDROM drives, including many old audio CD-players, can't read
>> CDRW:s
>>
>> Some first generation DVD players had a similar problem where they
>> could not read CDR:s, but read CDRW:s just fine.
>
> The CD-ROM was a CD-R CD (52x), written in Windows Vista on a modern
> machine using the "Windows 98" default parameters, which are "ISO"
> compliant but don't allow more than 8 characters per file name, and
> more than 256 char max, no more than 8 sub-directories, etc. The
> machine reading is a 10+ year old Pentium II.
>
> I think the problem might indeed perhaps be the write speed--I let the
> machine, a Core 2 Duo, write at the maximum speed (I forget what it
> was). The old machine, the Pentium II, is very antiquated as it only
> has a few hundred MB RAM, and sometimes it will give an error
> searching on a HD (since it times out). Later, I'll try writing the
> CD using a slower speed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> RL

I wonder if the age of the old machine is a problem in a different way:
perhaps the CD-ROM drive on the Pentium II is fading with its advanced
age (I can really sympathize!).

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