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  #21  
Old 10-19-2009, 10:05 PM
Mercellus Bohren
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Default Re: Deer XP Computer Genius

On Oct 19, 3:56*pm, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤
<sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
> <mercell...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Some of my applications hang while opening, until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del
> >and launch the Windows Security dialog box (where the Task Manager
> >utility is located). When I open Task Manager, it shows the
> >application is running. When I exit Task Manager, and the window is
> >redisplayed, the application is running. There is never an error. If I
> >don't Ctrl-Alt-Del, the application will hang for at least 2 or 3
> >minutes; honestly, I've never let it go longer to see when it will
> >actually load completely. Some internet searches have turned up
> >similar problems, but no real solutions.

>
> >This happens with Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, SolidWorks, and
> >a few other applications. It doesn't happen with ProEngineer,
> >FrameMaker, Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.

>
> >The other weird thing is that this started happening awhile back with
> >my old work computer. This computer was completely replaced, and it is
> >still occurring. My desktop and user profiles were all reinstalled on
> >the new computer.

>
> >I run UltraMon for a dual-monitor configuration. I've turned this
> >utility off, and I still get the problem.

>
> >Any help would be appreciated.

>
> Look for ctfmon.exe, it's a spyware virus and hard to remove. It can
> cause severe lagging issues


According to Microsoft, it's a service they install for alternative
language/input support for XP. It can cause severe lagging issues,
like you suggest. It can be turned off. I'm going to try that and see
if it helps.

I've also read that if I have a corrupt font installed, this may also
be causing these applications to hang when they try to load a
corrupted font set.
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  #22  
Old 10-19-2009, 10:20 PM
MoParMaN
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2:56 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
>>> On Oct 19, 2:19 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2:07 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 12:34 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some of my applications hang while opening, until I press
>>>>>>>>> Ctrl-Alt-Del and launch the Windows Security dialog box (where
>>>>>>>>> the Task Manager utility is located). When I open Task
>>>>>>>>> Manager, it shows the application is running. When I exit
>>>>>>>>> Task Manager, and the window is redisplayed, the application
>>>>>>>>> is running. There is never an error. If I don't Ctrl-Alt-Del,
>>>>>>>>> the application will hang for at least 2 or 3 minutes;
>>>>>>>>> honestly, I've never let it go longer to see when it will
>>>>>>>>> actually load completely. Some internet searches have turned
>>>>>>>>> up similar problems, but no real solutions.

>>
>>>>>>>>> This happens with Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
>>>>>>>>> SolidWorks, and a few other applications. It doesn't happen
>>>>>>>>> with ProEngineer, FrameMaker, Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook,
>>>>>>>>> etc.

>>
>>>>>>>>> The other weird thing is that this started happening awhile
>>>>>>>>> back with my old work computer. This computer was completely
>>>>>>>>> replaced, and it is still occurring. My desktop and user
>>>>>>>>> profiles were all reinstalled on the new computer.

>>
>>>>>>>>> I run UltraMon for a dual-monitor configuration. I've turned
>>>>>>>>> this utility off, and I still get the problem.

>>
>>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.

>>
>>>>>>>> You need more RAM and cache memory or both. Check hard drive
>>>>>>>> and make sure it's not full. Cleanup your temp files, run
>>>>>>>> defrag, increase ramdisk size.

>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ----------MoParMan----------
>>>>>>>> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
>>>>>>>> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------

>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113

>>
>>>>>>>> TEDWARD Said:

>>
>>>>>>>> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to
>>>>>>>> make a chicken!

>>
>>>>>>> There's about 95 GB remaining of free space on the hard drive. I
>>>>>>> clean up the temp files all the time with CCleaner. I have 4 GB
>>>>>>> of physical memory installed. Given the amount of applications
>>>>>>> I run simultaneously, this should be more than adequate. Or, it
>>>>>>> has been up until this started. I changed the virtual memory
>>>>>>> setting to "system managed." It was 2045, or something like
>>>>>>> that.

>>
>>>>>> When I start Excel, it takes about 1 1/2 minutes for it to be
>>>>>> displayed. In my case it's the virus program checking it first.
>>>>>> Same with IE, word, etc.

>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ----------MoParMan----------
>>>>>> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
>>>>>> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------

>>
>>>>>> http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113

>>
>>>>>> TEDWARD Said:

>>
>>>>>> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to
>>>>>> make a chicken!

>>
>>>>> Are you using Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection by any
>>>>> chance?

>>
>>>> When you start something go to the task master first and process
>>>> and see what's using all your resources.....That'll be the culprit.

>>
>>>> --

>>
>>> 1. Open Task Manager. All programs running, all process running.
>>> Nothing unusual taking up resources. Leave Task Manager open.
>>> 2. Open Adobe Illustrator. It hangs like normal.
>>> 3. Illustrator process shows running; Task Manager shows Illustrator
>>> not responding.
>>> 4. Close Task Manager. Illustrator still hanging in background.
>>> 5. Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del bringing up Windows Security dialog box.
>>> 6. Hit the Cancel button (I don't even open Task Manager).
>>> 7. Illustrator running fine when window redisplayed.

>>
>> Hmm, What kinda PC?
>>
>> --
>> ----------MoParMan----------
>> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
>> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------
>>
>> http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113
>>
>> TEDWARD Said:
>>
>> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to make
>> a chicken!

>
> HP XW4600 Workstation


Have you tried disabling Hyperthreading?


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TEDWARD Said:

Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to make a
chicken!


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  #23  
Old 10-19-2009, 11:07 PM
Mercellus Bohren
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On Oct 19, 4:20*pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> > On Oct 19, 2:56 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> >>> On Oct 19, 2:19 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> >>>>> On Oct 19, 2:07 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Oct 19, 12:34 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Some of my applications hang while opening, until I press
> >>>>>>>>> Ctrl-Alt-Del and launch the Windows Security dialog box (where
> >>>>>>>>> the Task Manager utility is located). When I open Task
> >>>>>>>>> Manager, it shows the application is running. When I exit
> >>>>>>>>> Task Manager, and the window is redisplayed, the application
> >>>>>>>>> is running. There is never an error. If I don't Ctrl-Alt-Del,
> >>>>>>>>> the application will hang for at least 2 or 3 minutes;
> >>>>>>>>> honestly, I've never let it go longer to see when it will
> >>>>>>>>> actually load completely. Some internet searches have turned
> >>>>>>>>> up similar problems, but no real solutions.

>
> >>>>>>>>> This happens with Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
> >>>>>>>>> SolidWorks, and a few other applications. It doesn't happen
> >>>>>>>>> with ProEngineer, FrameMaker, Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook,
> >>>>>>>>> etc.

>
> >>>>>>>>> The other weird thing is that this started happening awhile
> >>>>>>>>> back with my old work computer. This computer was completely
> >>>>>>>>> replaced, and it is still occurring. My desktop and user
> >>>>>>>>> profiles were all reinstalled on the new computer.

>
> >>>>>>>>> I run UltraMon for a dual-monitor configuration. I've turned
> >>>>>>>>> this utility off, and I still get the problem.

>
> >>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.

>
> >>>>>>>> You need more RAM and cache memory or both. Check hard drive
> >>>>>>>> and make sure it's not full. Cleanup your temp files, run
> >>>>>>>> defrag, increase ramdisk size.

>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> ----------MoParMan----------
> >>>>>>>> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
> >>>>>>>> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------

>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113

>
> >>>>>>>> TEDWARD Said:

>
> >>>>>>>> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to
> >>>>>>>> make a chicken!

>
> >>>>>>> There's about 95 GB remaining of free space on the hard drive. I
> >>>>>>> clean up the temp files all the time with CCleaner. I have 4 GB
> >>>>>>> of physical memory installed. Given the amount of applications
> >>>>>>> I run simultaneously, this should be more than adequate. Or, it
> >>>>>>> has been up until this started. I changed the virtual memory
> >>>>>>> setting to "system managed." It was 2045, or something like
> >>>>>>> that.

>
> >>>>>> When I start Excel, it takes about 1 1/2 minutes for it to be
> >>>>>> displayed. In my case it's the virus program checking it first.
> >>>>>> Same with IE, word, etc.

>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ----------MoParMan----------
> >>>>>> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
> >>>>>> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------

>
> >>>>>>http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113

>
> >>>>>> TEDWARD Said:

>
> >>>>>> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to
> >>>>>> make a chicken!

>
> >>>>> Are you using Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection by any
> >>>>> chance?

>
> >>>> When you start something go to the task master first and process
> >>>> and see what's using all your resources.....That'll be the culprit.

>
> >>>> --

>
> >>> 1. Open Task Manager. All programs running, all process running.
> >>> Nothing unusual taking up resources. Leave Task Manager open.
> >>> 2. Open Adobe Illustrator. It hangs like normal.
> >>> 3. Illustrator process shows running; Task Manager shows Illustrator
> >>> not responding.
> >>> 4. Close Task Manager. Illustrator still hanging in background.
> >>> 5. Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del bringing up Windows Security dialog box.
> >>> 6. Hit the Cancel button (I don't even open Task Manager).
> >>> 7. Illustrator running fine when window redisplayed.

>
> >> Hmm, What kinda PC?

>
> >> --
> >> ----------MoParMan----------
> >> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
> >> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------

>
> >>http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113

>
> >> TEDWARD Said:

>
> >> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to make
> >> a chicken!

>
> > HP XW4600 Workstation

>
> Have you tried disabling Hyperthreading?
>


Looked for it in the BIOS setup. Didn't see this option anywhere. All
I see is something called "Multi-processor support" enable/disable.
Figured I didn't want to do that. Supposedly, there should have been
the option under Advanced Power Options; but, it wasn't there.
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:22 AM
MoParMaN
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> Looked for it in the BIOS setup. Didn't see this option anywhere. All
> I see is something called "Multi-processor support" enable/disable.
> Figured I didn't want to do that. Supposedly, there should have been
> the option under Advanced Power Options; but, it wasn't there.


It's in the BIOS.

If you don't have an Intel CPU, you won't have Hyperthreading.


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TEDWARD Said:

Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to make a
chicken!


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  #25  
Old 10-20-2009, 02:19 AM
BillyZoom
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On Oct 19, 7:22*pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> > Looked for it in the BIOS setup. Didn't see this option anywhere. All
> > I see is something called "Multi-processor support" enable/disable.
> > Figured I didn't want to do that. Supposedly, there should have been
> > the option under Advanced Power Options; but, it wasn't there.

>
> It's in the BIOS.
>
> If you don't have an Intel CPU, you won't have Hyperthreading.
>
> --
> ----------MoParMan----------
> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------
>
> http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113
>
> TEDWARD Said:
>
> Eggs are really good for you. *They have the nutrition needed to make a
> chicken!


Uh uh. No No No.
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  #26  
Old 10-20-2009, 02:20 AM
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Maybe one of those suspects is trying to ping an update site but is
being snagged by a firewall.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:21 AM
rmacfarl
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"BillyZoom" <medavis5@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eb87b51b-5d17-4b5a-b216-e057d5287264@g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 19, 7:22 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> > Looked for it in the BIOS setup. Didn't see this option
> > anywhere. All
> > I see is something called "Multi-processor support"
> > enable/disable.
> > Figured I didn't want to do that. Supposedly, there should
> > have been
> > the option under Advanced Power Options; but, it wasn't
> > there.

>
> It's in the BIOS.
>
> If you don't have an Intel CPU, you won't have Hyperthreading.
>
> --
> ----------MoParMan----------
> --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North, 96.92989 West-
> ------Remove Clothes to Reply------
>
> http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=32113
>
> TEDWARD Said:
>
> Eggs are really good for you. They have the nutrition needed to
> make a
> chicken!


Folks, if it's not too much trouble could you please remove
sci.anthropology.paleo from the Newsgroups list when replying to
this thread, as it's completely off-topic & no one here really
has any interest in contributing to it. Thanks...

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  #28  
Old 10-20-2009, 03:36 AM
robert bowman
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:

> Any help would be appreciated.


What AV are you running? Some of them will stop you in your tracks, and need
to be set up to exclude trusted programs and directories.
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  #29  
Old 10-20-2009, 06:37 AM
Jefferson N. Glapski
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> Some of my applications hang while opening, until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del
> and launch the Windows Security dialog box (where the Task Manager
> utility is located). When I open Task Manager, it shows the
> application is running. When I exit Task Manager, and the window is
> redisplayed, the application is running. There is never an error. If I
> don't Ctrl-Alt-Del, the application will hang for at least 2 or 3
> minutes; honestly, I've never let it go longer to see when it will
> actually load completely. Some internet searches have turned up
> similar problems, but no real solutions.
>
> This happens with Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, SolidWorks, and
> a few other applications. It doesn't happen with ProEngineer,
> FrameMaker, Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.
>
> The other weird thing is that this started happening awhile back with
> my old work computer. This computer was completely replaced, and it is
> still occurring. My desktop and user profiles were all reinstalled on
> the new computer.
>
> I run UltraMon for a dual-monitor configuration. I've turned this
> utility off, and I still get the problem.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.


http://www.ubuntu.com

You're welcome.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:31 PM
Mercellus Bohren
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On Oct 19, 8:20*pm, SNORKY <sno...@snorky.zz> wrote:
> Maybe one of those suspects is trying to ping an update site but is
> being snagged by a firewall.


Dam-bit. I'll bet this is it.
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