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Old 08-27-2007, 02:29 PM
nick
 
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Default Aspect Changes??

Not sure of my terminology here, but ...

Recently I downloaded some BritCom TV shows from Demonoid.
They come in AVI format and I use Nero NVE to convert them
to DVD format. In both the AVI and the DVD format, the
picture fills a conventional screen rather than the two
black bands one usually gets with the HDTV format. And
the people seem a bit taller and a bit thinner and a bit
more angular than they ought.

So what has happened here? Has someone recorder in HDTV
format and then changed the aspect somehow?

Better, can I change it back? If so, how??

thanks

nick
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:16 AM
Stuart
 
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"nick" <nick@NOSPAM.ORG> wrote in message news:YkAAi.503$hV.127@trnddc02...
> Not sure of my terminology here, but ...
>
> Recently I downloaded some BritCom TV shows from Demonoid.
> They come in AVI format and I use Nero NVE to convert them
> to DVD format. In both the AVI and the DVD format, the
> picture fills a conventional screen rather than the two
> black bands one usually gets with the HDTV format. And
> the people seem a bit taller and a bit thinner and a bit
> more angular than they ought.
>
> So what has happened here? Has someone recorder in HDTV
> format and then changed the aspect somehow?
>
> Better, can I change it back? If so, how??
>
> thanks
>
> nick


A bit more info would help
Are you viewing on a computer?
If so what program - generally you can change the aspect ratio in Media
Player Classic, VLC etc.

Are you viewing on a TV? If so what aspect ratio is the TV set 4:3 or 16:9

Anyway flesh out the details and then maybe someone can give you meaningful
info

And what aspect ratio was the show recorded in? You might be able to get
that info from http://www.imdb.com/ if you are not sure


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Old 08-28-2007, 11:15 AM
Steve Roberts
 
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Default Re: Aspect Changes??

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:29:28 GMT, nick <nick@NOSPAM.ORG> wrote:

>Not sure of my terminology here, but ...
>
>Recently I downloaded some BritCom TV shows from Demonoid.
>They come in AVI format and I use Nero NVE to convert them
>to DVD format. In both the AVI and the DVD format, the
>picture fills a conventional screen rather than the two
>black bands one usually gets with the HDTV format. And
>the people seem a bit taller and a bit thinner and a bit
>more angular than they ought.
>
>So what has happened here? Has someone recorder in HDTV
>format and then changed the aspect somehow?


It's recorded as transmitted, in anamorphic widescreen. The easiest
thing to do is to author it to your hard drive as DVD files, then use
IfoEdit to go into the VOBs and change the aspect ration flag to 16:9,
then burn to DVD using Nero as before.

Steve

The Doctor Who Restoration Team Website
http://www.restoration-team.co.uk
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:58 PM
nick
 
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Default Re: Aspect Changes??

Steve Roberts wrote:

> It's recorded as transmitted, in anamorphic widescreen. The easiest
> thing to do is to author it to your hard drive as DVD files, then use
> IfoEdit to go into the VOBs and change the aspect ration flag to 16:9,
> then burn to DVD using Nero as before.
>
> Steve


Steve,thanks for the info ... and we do love the recent Dr Who we
have seen with Billie Piper.

Did and done ... but every time I used IfoEdit to open a VOB, it
actually opened the associated IFO file. Izzat ok?? In any case
I changed the aspect ratio to 16:9 in each file and am now reburning
a DVD. Initial looks while importing and creating the DVD in NVE
does not look a whole lot better. We shall see.

nick
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:23 PM
Jeff
 
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Default Re: Aspect Changes??

nick <nick@NOSPAM.ORG> wrote in news:OuYAi.9$Xg.7@trnddc06:

> Steve Roberts wrote:
>
>> It's recorded as transmitted, in anamorphic widescreen. The easiest
>> thing to do is to author it to your hard drive as DVD files, then use
>> IfoEdit to go into the VOBs and change the aspect ration flag to 16:9,
>> then burn to DVD using Nero as before.
>>
>> Steve

>
> Steve,thanks for the info ... and we do love the recent Dr Who we
> have seen with Billie Piper.
>
> Did and done ... but every time I used IfoEdit to open a VOB, it
> actually opened the associated IFO file. Izzat ok?? In any case
> I changed the aspect ratio to 16:9 in each file and am now reburning
> a DVD. Initial looks while importing and creating the DVD in NVE
> does not look a whole lot better. We shall see.
>
> nick
>


There are a couple of things you are doing wrong.
IfoEdit is named that because you use it to edit the IFO file, not the
VOBs.
Using NVE to recode the same VOB files is going to give the same bad result
because it doesn't use the edited IFO file, it creates a new one based on
the VOBs it creates. You should take the edited IFO file and its matching
VOB files (in a VIDEO_TS folder) and burn them as is using Nero Express
(from StartSmart select "Burn DVD files"), which is different from Nero
Vision Express.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:08 PM
nick
 
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Default Re: Aspect Changes??

Jeff wrote:
> There are a couple of things you are doing wrong.
> IfoEdit is named that because you use it to edit the IFO file, not the
> VOBs.
> Using NVE to recode the same VOB files is going to give the same bad result
> because it doesn't use the edited IFO file, it creates a new one based on
> the VOBs it creates. You should take the edited IFO file and its matching
> VOB files (in a VIDEO_TS folder) and burn them as is using Nero Express
> (from StartSmart select "Burn DVD files"), which is different from Nero
> Vision Express.


OK, used IfoEdit and changed all occurrences of 4:3 to 16:9 in all four
IFO files (VIDEO_TS.IFO, VTS_01_0.IFO, VTS_02_0.IFO, VTS_03_0.IFO).
PowerDVD will no longer play the DVD files. NeroBurningROM wants not
to burn the DVD just saying it will probably be unplayable with no
further info. While I realize I can recover the disk by deleting the
IFO files and using NVE again, that won't help the aspect problem.
What next??

nick
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:52 AM
Stuart
 
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"nick" <nick@NOSPAM.ORG> wrote in message news:YkAAi.503$hV.127@trnddc02...
> Not sure of my terminology here, but ...
>
> Recently I downloaded some BritCom TV shows from Demonoid.
> They come in AVI format and I use Nero NVE to convert them
> to DVD format. In both the AVI and the DVD format, the
> picture fills a conventional screen rather than the two
> black bands one usually gets with the HDTV format. And
> the people seem a bit taller and a bit thinner and a bit
> more angular than they ought.
>
> So what has happened here? Has someone recorder in HDTV
> format and then changed the aspect somehow?
>
> Better, can I change it back? If so, how??
>
> thanks
>
> nick


Nick what type of DVD player and TV set (is it 4:3 or 16:9?) What you may
have to do in IFO edit is leave the aspect ratio alone and simply untick
"automatic letterbox" leaving only automatic pan and scan ticked.

It really depends on whether the original file was 16:9 within a 4:3 frame
typical of DVD recorders or recorded off Digital TV in which case it's
probably 16:9

Also what country are you in as standards vary considerably - down her in
Australia digital TV is always transmitted as a 16:9 frame even if the
source is 4:3 which is pillaboxed within the 16:9 frame, the very opposite
of many DVD recorders.

Sometimes 2.35:1 material will be vertically stretched by some DVD players
to 16:9 resulting in "tall people" Samsung units tend to do this.

Another approach is check what the aspect ratio of the file and add pixels
top and bottom to make the frame size 16:9, you can use VirtualDub to do
this.

A less complicated way is to use VSO ConvertXtoDVD to author your DVD as it
seems to work out these aspect ratio problems automatically nine time out of
ten. I've used this program to transcode rmbv, wmv, avi files etc of some
really weird aspect ratios and the resulting DVD has been spot on.


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