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Old 01-31-2008, 07:53 PM
T.B.
 
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Default Sony Vegas 8 Unable to Run on Vista?

I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's advertised
as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older version of Vegas and
for the most part, really liked the software and had few if any problems
with it.

However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and crashes
as it's loading the "audio engine." I updated the software to the latest
version (8.0c) with no change in the problem. I spent much of a day earlier
this week going back and forth with a Sony tech trying to solve the problem,
doing things like uninstalling *all* Sony Creative software and installed
vegas first, disabling all but the most essential processes running in task
manager and disabling my sound card drivers. No effect.

FWIW, my pc is a HPm9040, 32 bit, running Vista Home Premium. I have the
latest version of Quicktime, my version of Vista is completly up to date,
there's no memory, hard drive, hardware or software or *any* other obvious
issues that would cause this sort of problem. It should also be mentioned
that the latest versions of Sony's Soundforge and DVD Architect seems to run
fine.

By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows Vista
is far from an isolated case. Some people with similar problems with Vegas 8
on Vista found that by "switching out" the "aviplug.dll," that solves the
problem but not in my case:

http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/24/876373

I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the box
it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number of
customers with the same problem.

Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?

T.B.

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Old 01-31-2008, 10:29 PM
Richard Crowley
 
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Default Re: Sony Vegas 8 Unable to Run on Vista?

"T.B." wrote ...
>I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's advertised
>as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older version of Vegas
>and for the most part, really liked the software and had few if any
>problems with it.
>
> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine."

.....
> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
> problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows
> Vista is far from an isolated case.

.....
> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the box
> it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number of
> customers with the same problem.
>
> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?


We have already conducted several "intervetions" and saved
friends who had become "Vista Victims". Dunno if Vista will
ever be production-worthy at this rate.


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Old 01-31-2008, 11:17 PM
T.B.
 
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Default Re: Sony Vegas 8 Unable to Run on Vista?

"Richard Crowley" wrote:

> "T.B." wrote ...
>>I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's advertised
>>as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older version of Vegas
>>and for the most part, really liked the software and had few if any
>>problems with it.
>>
>> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
>> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine."

> ....
>> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
>> problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows
>> Vista is far from an isolated case.

> ....
>> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the
>> box it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number of
>> customers with the same problem.
>>
>> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?

>
> We have already conducted several "intervetions" and saved
> friends who had become "Vista Victims". Dunno if Vista will
> ever be production-worthy at this rate.


Tell me about it. I'm a graphic artist and buying a new pc with Vista
pre-installed has wound up costing me a lot of extra money and aggravation
dealing with upgrading costly programs like QuarkXPress that will run on and
supposedly be supported by the new OS.

T.B.

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Old 02-01-2008, 12:22 AM
Mike Kujbida
 
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Default Re: Sony Vegas 8 Unable to Run on Vista?

T.B. wrote:
> "Richard Crowley" wrote:
>
>> "T.B." wrote ...
>>> I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's
>>> advertised as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older
>>> version of Vegas and for the most part, really liked the software and
>>> had few if any problems with it.
>>>
>>> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
>>> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine."

>> ....
>>> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that
>>> my problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under
>>> Windows Vista is far from an isolated case.

>> ....
>>> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on
>>> the box it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the
>>> number of customers with the same problem.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?

>>
>> We have already conducted several "intervetions" and saved
>> friends who had become "Vista Victims". Dunno if Vista will
>> ever be production-worthy at this rate.

>
> Tell me about it. I'm a graphic artist and buying a new pc with Vista
> pre-installed has wound up costing me a lot of extra money and
> aggravation dealing with upgrading costly programs like QuarkXPress that
> will run on and supposedly be supported by the new OS.
>
> T.B.



Here's one "possible" solution from the Sony Vegas forum.
HTH.

**********************************
The cause for this failure was a messed up installation of the
"Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable" on my system. For some
reason, that will remain a mystery to all of us, a run-time component of
that installation was missing. Vegas and DVDA rely on that one for their
installation and subsequent execution.

The fix was a complete uninstall of the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2005
Redistribution" component. That allows the Vegas and/or DVDA
installation kit to re-install it completely.
**********************************

Mike
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:28 AM
T.B.
 
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"Mike Kujbida" wrote:

(snip)

> Here's one "possible" solution from the Sony Vegas forum.
> HTH.
>
> **********************************
> The cause for this failure was a messed up installation of the "Microsoft
> Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable" on my system. For some reason, that will
> remain a mystery to all of us, a run-time component of that installation
> was missing. Vegas and DVDA rely on that one for their installation and
> subsequent execution.
>
> The fix was a complete uninstall of the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2005
> Redistribution" component. That allows the Vegas and/or DVDA installation
> kit to re-install it completely.
> **********************************


That was one of the first things the Sony tech asked me to do, uninstall
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable along with every component of
anything related to Sony Creative Suite and reinstall the newest update of
Vegas first, but unfortunately it didn't help me. From he said, that is
*one* of the problems with the current version on Vista but it appears among
other things, it's can be driver issues, some associated with the (terrible)
Windows Media Center on "some" systems. There's also an issue with some of
the .dll files in the plug ins folder but again, there isn't any real
consistency to the problem on all pcs using Vista.

I'm just looking for people who've had similar problems and perhaps come up
with a fix I haven't tried yet.

T.B.

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Old 02-01-2008, 02:44 AM
PTravel
 
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"T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47a2358d$0$30712$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's advertised
>as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older version of Vegas
>and for the most part, really liked the software and had few if any
>problems with it.
>
> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine." I updated the software to the
> latest version (8.0c) with no change in the problem. I spent much of a day
> earlier this week going back and forth with a Sony tech trying to solve
> the problem, doing things like uninstalling *all* Sony Creative software
> and installed vegas first, disabling all but the most essential processes
> running in task manager and disabling my sound card drivers. No effect.
>
> FWIW, my pc is a HPm9040, 32 bit, running Vista Home Premium. I have the
> latest version of Quicktime, my version of Vista is completly up to date,
> there's no memory, hard drive, hardware or software or *any* other obvious
> issues that would cause this sort of problem. It should also be mentioned
> that the latest versions of Sony's Soundforge and DVD Architect seems to
> run fine.
>
> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
> problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows
> Vista is far from an isolated case. Some people with similar problems with
> Vegas 8 on Vista found that by "switching out" the "aviplug.dll," that
> solves the problem but not in my case:
>
> http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/24/876373
>
> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the box
> it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number of
> customers with the same problem.
>
> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?
>


For what it's worth, it runs fine on my Vista Business-equipped laptop. I
haven't used it much yet, however -- I'm still a Premiere Pro person.


> T.B.
>


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Old 02-01-2008, 03:14 AM
T.B.
 
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"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:47a2358d$0$30712$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's advertised
>>as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older version of Vegas
>>and for the most part, really liked the software and had few if any
>>problems with it.
>>
>> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
>> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine." I updated the software to
>> the latest version (8.0c) with no change in the problem. I spent much of
>> a day earlier this week going back and forth with a Sony tech trying to
>> solve the problem, doing things like uninstalling *all* Sony Creative
>> software and installed vegas first, disabling all but the most essential
>> processes running in task manager and disabling my sound card drivers. No
>> effect.
>>
>> FWIW, my pc is a HPm9040, 32 bit, running Vista Home Premium. I have the
>> latest version of Quicktime, my version of Vista is completly up to date,
>> there's no memory, hard drive, hardware or software or *any* other
>> obvious issues that would cause this sort of problem. It should also be
>> mentioned that the latest versions of Sony's Soundforge and DVD Architect
>> seems to run fine.
>>
>> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
>> problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows
>> Vista is far from an isolated case. Some people with similar problems
>> with Vegas 8 on Vista found that by "switching out" the "aviplug.dll,"
>> that solves the problem but not in my case:
>>
>> http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/24/876373
>>
>> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the
>> box it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number of
>> customers with the same problem.
>>
>> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?
>>

>
> For what it's worth, it runs fine on my Vista Business-equipped laptop. I
> haven't used it much yet, however -- I'm still a Premiere Pro person.


I guess that kind of dovetails into what may be my next question even if it
moves away from the reason I posted here.

I really liked the older versions of Sony Vegas that I've used 'til the
present, and I'm considering the jump to Premier. I'm not doing any HD
video for at least the next year or so, it's all standard def NTSC simple
stereo. However, I do a lot of precise editing and fairly involved graphics
including some blue/green screen chroma key that I simply don't find the
ability to do in other sub $150 video editing programs like Pinnacle Studio.

Basically, should I consider just going with Premier or is there another
option I may be missing? And if Premier is the next step up from Vegas 8,
are there any serious issues running with Windows Vista? I generally have
found all other Adobe software to be virtually problem free on Vista and I'm
assuming Premier is as well.

T.B.

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Old 02-01-2008, 03:32 AM
Ken Maltby
 
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"T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47a29cc9$0$24082$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
> news:60fitfF1qk081U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:47a2358d$0$30712$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's
>>>advertised as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older
>>>version of Vegas and for the most part, really liked the software and had
>>>few if any problems with it.
>>>
>>> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
>>> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine." I updated the software to
>>> the latest version (8.0c) with no change in the problem. I spent much of
>>> a day earlier this week going back and forth with a Sony tech trying to
>>> solve the problem, doing things like uninstalling *all* Sony Creative
>>> software and installed vegas first, disabling all but the most
>>> essential processes running in task manager and disabling my sound card
>>> drivers. No effect.
>>>
>>> FWIW, my pc is a HPm9040, 32 bit, running Vista Home Premium. I have
>>> the latest version of Quicktime, my version of Vista is completly up to
>>> date, there's no memory, hard drive, hardware or software or *any* other
>>> obvious issues that would cause this sort of problem. It should also be
>>> mentioned that the latest versions of Sony's Soundforge and DVD
>>> Architect seems to run fine.
>>>
>>> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
>>> problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows
>>> Vista is far from an isolated case. Some people with similar problems
>>> with Vegas 8 on Vista found that by "switching out" the "aviplug.dll,"
>>> that solves the problem but not in my case:
>>>
>>> http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/24/876373
>>>
>>> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the
>>> box it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number
>>> of customers with the same problem.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?
>>>

>>
>> For what it's worth, it runs fine on my Vista Business-equipped laptop.
>> I haven't used it much yet, however -- I'm still a Premiere Pro person.

>
> I guess that kind of dovetails into what may be my next question even if
> it moves away from the reason I posted here.
>
> I really liked the older versions of Sony Vegas that I've used 'til the
> present, and I'm considering the jump to Premier. I'm not doing any HD
> video for at least the next year or so, it's all standard def NTSC simple
> stereo. However, I do a lot of precise editing and fairly involved
> graphics including some blue/green screen chroma key that I simply don't
> find the ability to do in other sub $150 video editing programs like
> Pinnacle Studio.
>


http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satelli.../1175714228558

http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/detail/



> Basically, should I consider just going with Premier or is there another
> option I may be missing? And if Premier is the next step up from Vegas 8,
> are there any serious issues running with Windows Vista? I generally have
> found all other Adobe software to be virtually problem free on Vista and
> I'm assuming Premier is as well.
>
> T.B.



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Old 02-01-2008, 11:11 AM
Arny Krueger
 
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"T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47a29cc9$0$24082$4c368faf@roadrunner.com

> I really liked the older versions of Sony Vegas that I've
> used 'til the present, and I'm considering the jump to
> Premier. I'm not doing any HD video for at least the
> next year or so, it's all standard def NTSC simple
> stereo. However, I do a lot of precise editing and
> fairly involved graphics including some blue/green screen
> chroma key that I simply don't find the ability to do in
> other sub $150 video editing programs like Pinnacle
> Studio.


I don't know exactly what you are doing, but Premiere Elements 4.0 does
pretty well with chroma key and other kinds of precise editing. Based on
what I see over on the related forums, it seems to work pretty well under
both XP and Vista. Under $100.


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Old 02-01-2008, 02:54 PM
Smarty
 
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T.B.

Unfortunately, Sony's official support forum for Vegas is absolutely
littered with messages from people like you who have had about the same
disappointing experience trying to use the latest Vegas with Vista. As you
have no doubt already seen, XP users are NOT having these problems, and
Vista compatibility is certainly the culprit.

If it were me, I would install XP on the machine, then Vegas, and solve the
problem. Since Sony has made unsupportable claims regarding Vista
compatibility, you may consider contacting Sony and demanding a refund, or,
alternately, seek a return and refund to your credit card from the place you
purchased Vegas.

Vista has been around a relatively short time, and building a video editing
system on a new OS, before the first service pack release, is a very tricky
and dangerous choice. Sony and many other companies who deliver video
editing and authoring software still can't get it entirely right for XP even
though it has been around for the better part of the decade.

Smarty


"T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Crowley" wrote:
>
>> "T.B." wrote ...
>>>I recently bought Sony Vegas Studio 8 specifically because it's
>>>advertised as being Windows Vista compatible, plus I have an older
>>>version of Vegas and for the most part, really liked the software and had
>>>few if any problems with it.
>>>
>>> However, once I installed the software, it fails to initiallize, and
>>> crashes as it's loading the "audio engine."

>> ....
>>> By reading many other threads on several a/v forums, I can see that my
>>> problem of Vegas 8 crashing during application start-up under Windows
>>> Vista is far from an isolated case.

>> ....
>>> I specifically bought this new version of Vegas because it said on the
>>> box it was Vista compatible. Obviously, it's not judging by the number
>>> of customers with the same problem.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this issue yet?

>>
>> We have already conducted several "intervetions" and saved
>> friends who had become "Vista Victims". Dunno if Vista will
>> ever be production-worthy at this rate.

>
> Tell me about it. I'm a graphic artist and buying a new pc with Vista
> pre-installed has wound up costing me a lot of extra money and aggravation
> dealing with upgrading costly programs like QuarkXPress that will run on
> and supposedly be supported by the new OS.
>
> T.B.



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