I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv
in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have
a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i
am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced
the right format for me. any suggestions?
thanks
"lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv in
> hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have a
> dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i am on
> ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced the
> right format for me. any suggestions?
> thanks
Trying to knock down the size of an mpeg file by roughly 60% is really
asking a lot. You might have to resort to disk-spanning and use several
disks.
--
Ron P
If we are what we eat then: I'm fast,
cheap and easy
Worn Out Retread wrote:
>
>
> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through
>> mythtv in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I
>> do have a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx
>> 22 gb. i am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has
>> not produced the right format for me. any suggestions?
>> thanks
> Trying to knock down the size of an mpeg file by roughly 60% is really
> asking a lot. You might have to resort to disk-spanning and use several
> disks.
>
you're wearing me out.
"lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv in
>hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have a dual
>layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i am on
>ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced the right
>format for me. any suggestions?
> thanks
What is the total playtime for this video?
What is "the right format" for you?
A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
and the 22GB would not be a problem.
You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
Ken Maltby wrote:
> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv in
>> hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have a dual
>> layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i am on
>> ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced the right
>> format for me. any suggestions?
>> thanks
>
> What is the total playtime for this video?
>
> What is "the right format" for you?
>
> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>
> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>
> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>
> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
>
>
total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players.
I just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing,
i can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use
any windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on
my wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box.
that's why i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics,
music, video, dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly
appreciated.
"lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
news:4I8Jj.1$Ce1.0@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> Ken Maltby wrote:
>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv
>>> in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have
>>> a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i
>>> am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced
>>> the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>> thanks
>>
>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>
>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>
>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>
>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>
>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>
>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>>
> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players. I
> just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing, i
> can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use any
> windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on my
> wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box. that's why
> i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics, music, video,
> dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know what the original default was with XP, but it wouldn't surprise
me to find out it was FAT32. (And if you have a big fat drive, loaded up,
there might not be enough overhead to convert it to NTFS without unloading a
bunch of stuff.)
I regularly move and manipulate 20 plus gig AVI files. But even with some
pretty good hardware, nothing, even just moving them around internal drives,
is going to happen very fast.
You can quickly get a 6:1 compression by converting to MPG2. (6:1 appears
to be the best spot. Maximum compression with no appreciable human-dectable
loss of quality.) That'll get your 30 gig AVI file down to 5 gigs. Pass
6:1 you might start noticing "artifacts", but you could get a 6.5:1 probably
with few problems.
I use Pinnacle Studio and it'll compress huge AVI files down into MPEG's,
automatically. (I don't think I've every handled a 30-plus Gig file) What
it won't do is handle some original file formats. (Notable .mov files)
These have to be converted. first.
I've done some work using ACVHD file format*. (Now those are some BIG
files.) Studio 11 will handle ACVHD, but again, it might take a
couple/several hours of cranking to get them converted to MPEG4.
*I work at a very minor community TV station. Emphasis on the "minor".
While we have several HD cameras, it'll be at least a couple of years before
we switch over to HDTV. Therefore, I haven't done a lot of work with
HD.....yet.
Amused wrote:
> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
> news:4I8Jj.1$Ce1.0@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>> Ken Maltby wrote:
>>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through
>>>> mythtv in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd.
>>>> I do have a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is
>>>> approx 22 gb. i am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through
>>>> kino has not produced the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>>> thanks
>>>
>>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>>
>>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>>
>>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>>
>>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>>
>>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
>> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd
>> players. I just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know
>> one thing, i can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its
>> size to use any windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than
>> 4 gb files on my wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my
>> linux box. that's why i do all of my multi media with linux including
>> graphics, music, video, dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would
>> be greatly appreciated.
>
> FAT32 has a four-gig limit.
> NTFS doesn't.
> http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
>
> I don't know what the original default was with XP, but it wouldn't
> surprise me to find out it was FAT32. (And if you have a big fat drive,
> loaded up, there might not be enough overhead to convert it to NTFS
> without unloading a bunch of stuff.)
>
> I regularly move and manipulate 20 plus gig AVI files. But even with
> some pretty good hardware, nothing, even just moving them around
> internal drives, is going to happen very fast.
>
> You can quickly get a 6:1 compression by converting to MPG2. (6:1
> appears to be the best spot. Maximum compression with no appreciable
> human-dectable loss of quality.) That'll get your 30 gig AVI file down
> to 5 gigs. Pass 6:1 you might start noticing "artifacts", but you could
> get a 6.5:1 probably with few problems.
>
> I use Pinnacle Studio and it'll compress huge AVI files down into
> MPEG's, automatically. (I don't think I've every handled a 30-plus Gig
> file) What it won't do is handle some original file formats. (Notable
> .mov files) These have to be converted. first.
>
> I've done some work using ACVHD file format*. (Now those are some BIG
> files.) Studio 11 will handle ACVHD, but again, it might take a
> couple/several hours of cranking to get them converted to MPEG4.
>
> *I work at a very minor community TV station. Emphasis on the "minor".
> While we have several HD cameras, it'll be at least a couple of years
> before we switch over to HDTV. Therefore, I haven't done a lot of work
> with HD.....yet.
>
> James...
>
>
James,
my file is in mpeg4 (the hd version of it). I can't even play it on my
xp machine. (I checked my wxp, it has one partition with ntfs on it). my
problem is that the file is in mpeg4 of hd version. so therefore i need
a software that downgrades it from a top notch hd content to mpeg2 for
sdtv. any ideas, recommendatations?
"lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
news:ZnbJj.11$iK6.2@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Amused wrote:
>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>> news:4I8Jj.1$Ce1.0@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Ken Maltby wrote:
>>>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through
>>>>> mythtv in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I
>>>>> do have a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx
>>>>> 22 gb. i am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has
>>>>> not produced the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>>>
>>>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>>>
>>>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>>>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>>>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>>>
>>>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>>>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>>>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>>>
>>>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>>>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>>>
>>>> Luck;
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
>>> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players.
>>> I just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing,
>>> i can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use
>>> any windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on
>>> my wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box.
>>> that's why i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics,
>>> music, video, dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>
>> FAT32 has a four-gig limit.
>> NTFS doesn't.
>> http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
>>
>> I don't know what the original default was with XP, but it wouldn't
>> surprise me to find out it was FAT32. (And if you have a big fat drive,
>> loaded up, there might not be enough overhead to convert it to NTFS
>> without unloading a bunch of stuff.)
>>
>> I regularly move and manipulate 20 plus gig AVI files. But even with
>> some pretty good hardware, nothing, even just moving them around internal
>> drives, is going to happen very fast.
>>
>> You can quickly get a 6:1 compression by converting to MPG2. (6:1
>> appears to be the best spot. Maximum compression with no appreciable
>> human-dectable loss of quality.) That'll get your 30 gig AVI file down
>> to 5 gigs. Pass 6:1 you might start noticing "artifacts", but you could
>> get a 6.5:1 probably with few problems.
>>
>> I use Pinnacle Studio and it'll compress huge AVI files down into MPEG's,
>> automatically. (I don't think I've every handled a 30-plus Gig file)
>> What it won't do is handle some original file formats. (Notable .mov
>> files) These have to be converted. first.
>>
>> I've done some work using ACVHD file format*. (Now those are some BIG
>> files.) Studio 11 will handle ACVHD, but again, it might take a
>> couple/several hours of cranking to get them converted to MPEG4.
>>
>> *I work at a very minor community TV station. Emphasis on the "minor".
>> While we have several HD cameras, it'll be at least a couple of years
>> before we switch over to HDTV. Therefore, I haven't done a lot of work
>> with HD.....yet.
>>
>> James...
>>
>>
> James,
> my file is in mpeg4 (the hd version of it). I can't even play it on my xp
> machine. (I checked my wxp, it has one partition with ntfs on it). my
> problem is that the file is in mpeg4 of hd version. so therefore i need a
> software that downgrades it from a top notch hd content to mpeg2 for sdtv.
> any ideas, recommendatations?
>
Have you tried TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress ? I use this for my local DigitalTV
files (Oz)
"lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
news:ZnbJj.11$iK6.2@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Amused wrote:
>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>> news:4I8Jj.1$Ce1.0@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Ken Maltby wrote:
>>>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through
>>>>> mythtv in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I
>>>>> do have a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx
>>>>> 22 gb. i am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has
>>>>> not produced the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>>>
>>>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>>>
>>>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>>>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>>>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>>>
>>>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>>>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>>>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>>>
>>>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>>>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>>>
>>>> Luck;
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
>>> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players.
>>> I just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing,
>>> i can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use
>>> any windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on
>>> my wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box.
>>> that's why i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics,
>>> music, video, dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>
>> FAT32 has a four-gig limit.
>> NTFS doesn't.
>> http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
>>
>> I don't know what the original default was with XP, but it wouldn't
>> surprise me to find out it was FAT32. (And if you have a big fat drive,
>> loaded up, there might not be enough overhead to convert it to NTFS
>> without unloading a bunch of stuff.)
>>
>> I regularly move and manipulate 20 plus gig AVI files. But even with
>> some pretty good hardware, nothing, even just moving them around internal
>> drives, is going to happen very fast.
>>
>> You can quickly get a 6:1 compression by converting to MPG2. (6:1
>> appears to be the best spot. Maximum compression with no appreciable
>> human-dectable loss of quality.) That'll get your 30 gig AVI file down
>> to 5 gigs. Pass 6:1 you might start noticing "artifacts", but you could
>> get a 6.5:1 probably with few problems.
>>
>> I use Pinnacle Studio and it'll compress huge AVI files down into MPEG's,
>> automatically. (I don't think I've every handled a 30-plus Gig file)
>> What it won't do is handle some original file formats. (Notable .mov
>> files) These have to be converted. first.
>>
>> I've done some work using ACVHD file format*. (Now those are some BIG
>> files.) Studio 11 will handle ACVHD, but again, it might take a
>> couple/several hours of cranking to get them converted to MPEG4.
>>
>> *I work at a very minor community TV station. Emphasis on the "minor".
>> While we have several HD cameras, it'll be at least a couple of years
>> before we switch over to HDTV. Therefore, I haven't done a lot of work
>> with HD.....yet.
>>
>> James...
>>
>>
> James,
> my file is in mpeg4 (the hd version of it). I can't even play it on my xp
> machine. (I checked my wxp, it has one partition with ntfs on it). my
> problem is that the file is in mpeg4 of hd version. so therefore i need a
> software that downgrades it from a top notch hd content to mpeg2 for sdtv.
> any ideas, recommendatations?
>
Oh, boy...
I just took a 3,962 KB MPG4 file and ran it through Studio. The MPG2 file
size produced was.......50,290 KB, about 16 times larger. (I'm still
assuming that Studio would try to compress any resulting MPG2 down to fit on
a single disk, but I haven't tried that yet.)
Funny thing. Windows Media would not play the MPG4, but Nero would. In
fact, WM would even allow itself to be selected to play.
Interesting. Of no help to you, but still interesting...
"lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
news:4I8Jj.1$Ce1.0@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> Ken Maltby wrote:
>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv
>>> in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have
>>> a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i
>>> am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced
>>> the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>> thanks
>>
>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>
>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>
>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>
>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>
>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>
>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>>
> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players. I
> just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing, i
> can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use any
> windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on my
> wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box. that's why
> i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics, music, video,
> dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
You said that this "Big file" was a MythTV recording. You might
consider recording in less than 4 hour batches. I haven't seen many
TV programs that run for four hours straight, so does this "Big file"
contain more than one program?
Get "GSpot" to establish what type of video and audio is in this
"MPEG4" file. Read the "Super Quick Start for Newbies" http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
The fact is that you don't have your Windows XP system
properly setup. You can easily do much more running under
XP than you can do using Linux. GSpot will show you the
codec that you need to have installed to play the video and
audio in the "hd recordings from your Linux box". You could
also install VLC on your XP machine. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Big file write to DVD 
Linear Mode
