"Amused" <jamescopeland@carsoncomm.com> wrote in message
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> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
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>> Ken Maltby wrote:
>>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
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>>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv
>>>> in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have
>>>> a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i
>>>> am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced
>>>> the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>>> thanks
>>>
>>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>>
>>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>>
>>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>>
>>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>>
>>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
>> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players.
>> I just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing, i
>> can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use any
>> windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on my
>> wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box. that's
>> why i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics, music,
>> video, dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>
> FAT32 has a four-gig limit.
> NTFS doesn't.
> http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
>
> I don't know what the original default was with XP, but it wouldn't
> surprise me to find out it was FAT32. (And if you have a big fat drive,
> loaded up, there might not be enough overhead to convert it to NTFS
> without unloading a bunch of stuff.)
>
> I regularly move and manipulate 20 plus gig AVI files. But even with some
> pretty good hardware, nothing, even just moving them around internal
> drives, is going to happen very fast.
>
> You can quickly get a 6:1 compression by converting to MPG2. (6:1 appears
> to be the best spot. Maximum compression with no appreciable
> human-dectable loss of quality.) That'll get your 30 gig AVI file down to
> 5 gigs. Pass 6:1 you might start noticing "artifacts", but you could get
> a 6.5:1 probably with few problems.
>
You are not looking at the situation correctly. The source is not an
issue, for this purpose. The compression that the OP needs is that
which provides for SD DVD. The factors that effect this are the
amount of playtime that will fit on the DVD at a bitrate that provides
the image quality wanted. To fit 4hr of SD video on a single layer
DVD, it would have to be encoded at a bitrate of 2,360kbps. The
highest bitrate/best quality that a home user should put on a DVD
is 9,000kbps. or about an hour of video. Quite a difference.
Now SD MPEG2 at 2,360 wouldn't be that bad, but you would
certainly notice some problems during movement, and it is only a
quarter of the overall quality of a 9,000Kbps DVD. ( using VBR
encoding would help, though)
You will already lose some quality going from HD to SD, so you
might want to keep it to just two hours per single layer DVD.
The HD source is all a good thing and is not just being squished
down to fit the HD video onto a DVD, but is being converted to
the SD size. The conversion has all the data it needs to make the
best possible SD video.
> I use Pinnacle Studio and it'll compress huge AVI files down into MPEG's,
> automatically. (I don't think I've every handled a 30-plus Gig file)
> What it won't do is handle some original file formats. (Notable .mov
> files) These have to be converted. first.
>
> I've done some work using ACVHD file format*. (Now those are some BIG
> files.) Studio 11 will handle ACVHD, but again, it might take a
> couple/several hours of cranking to get them converted to MPEG4.
>
> *I work at a very minor community TV station. Emphasis on the "minor".
> While we have several HD cameras, it'll be at least a couple of years
> before we switch over to HDTV. Therefore, I haven't done a lot of work
> with HD.....yet.
>
> James...
>
>
"Amused" <jamescopeland@carsoncomm.com> wrote in message
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> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>>>
>> James,
>> my file is in mpeg4 (the hd version of it). I can't even play it on my xp
>> machine. (I checked my wxp, it has one partition with ntfs on it). my
>> problem is that the file is in mpeg4 of hd version. so therefore i need a
>> software that downgrades it from a top notch hd content to mpeg2 for
>> sdtv. any ideas, recommendatations?
>>
>
>
> Oh, boy...
>
> I just took a 3,962 KB MPG4 file and ran it through Studio. The MPG2 file
> size produced was.......50,290 KB, about 16 times larger. (I'm still
> assuming that Studio would try to compress any resulting MPG2 down to fit
> on a single disk, but I haven't tried that yet.)
>
> Funny thing. Windows Media would not play the MPG4, but Nero would. In
> fact, WM would even allow itself to be selected to play.
>
> Interesting. Of no help to you, but still interesting...
"MPEG4 file" could mean any of a number of video and
audio combinations, DivX, XviD, H.264, with MP3, AC3,
or AAC audio. It could be HD video or CellPhone video.
An editor like your Studio is not the best tool to try and
encode/convert video. Did you render it as an HD video
or as an SD video?
Get "GSpot" to establish what type of video and audio is in this
"MPEG4" file. Read the "Super Quick Start for Newbies" http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
The fact is that you don't have your Windows XP system
properly setup. You could also install VLC on your XP
machine. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Ken Maltby wrote:
> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
> news:4I8Jj.1$Ce1.0@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>> Ken Maltby wrote:
>>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through mythtv
>>>> in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd. I do have
>>>> a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is approx 22 gb. i
>>>> am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through kino has not produced
>>>> the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>>> thanks
>>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>>
>>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>>
>>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>>
>>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>>
>>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
>> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players. I
>> just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing, i
>> can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use any
>> windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on my
>> wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box. that's why
>> i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics, music, video,
>> dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> You said that this "Big file" was a MythTV recording. You might
> consider recording in less than 4 hour batches. I haven't seen many
> TV programs that run for four hours straight, so does this "Big file"
> contain more than one program?
>
> You can find tools to split up your Big file at:
> www.videohelp.com and http://sourceforge.net/
>
> Get "GSpot" to establish what type of video and audio is in this
> "MPEG4" file. Read the "Super Quick Start for Newbies"
> http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
>
> The fact is that you don't have your Windows XP system
> properly setup. You can easily do much more running under
> XP than you can do using Linux. GSpot will show you the
> codec that you need to have installed to play the video and
> audio in the "hd recordings from your Linux box". You could
> also install VLC on your XP machine.
> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
>
> That should get you started on the right track.
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
>
>
Ken man,
Thanks for your response. The file is a recording of the football
national championship game between osu and lsu. i'd like for all of it
to fit on one dvd (either single but preferably double layer dvd). i
know for sure the file is the hight quality mpeg4 which h.264. i have no
problem playing the file on my linux box but I can't play it on winxp at
all. as mentioned by somebody else wm associates itself with the file
but when i try to play the file with it, it boogers off. my main
objective is to compress the file down so I can fit it on one double
layer dvd and that is what I am looking for; a software that does the
compression and the burn;however, if it doesn't do the burn that's not a
big deal, i can burn the file myself to the dvd with other tools. one
other thing is that if there aren't any apps that cannot or doesn't
compress to burn to a double layer dvd, i can also live with a single
layer dvd. i understand the quality is not going to be great but oh well.
lark schreef:
> Ken Maltby wrote:
>> "lark" <lark@lark.net> wrote in message
>> news:yoOIj.607$Gq7.333@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net. ..
>>> I am looking for a way to shrink an MPEG4 file (recorded through
>>> mythtv in hd format) to a dual layer dvd or even a single layer dvd.
>>> I do have a dual layer dvd writer and disks as well. the file is
>>> approx 22 gb. i am on ubuntu gutsy. my efforts to do this through
>>> kino has not produced the right format for me. any suggestions?
>>> thanks
>>
>> What is the total playtime for this video?
>>
>> What is "the right format" for you?
>>
>> A standard single layer DVD holds about 4.3GB, so you have
>> about 5 DVD; a dual layer DVD holds about 8.5GB, which
>> means about 2.5 DVDs for your 22GB.
>>
>> Most DVD players only play SD DVDs. If you have a Blu-Ray
>> player and writer, you would have an setup for handling your HD,
>> and the 22GB would not be a problem.
>>
>> You can make excellent SD video from HD source video.
>>
>> I have no idea what software you "Happy Feet" types can
>> use to do this. Are there no Linux NG?
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
> total playtime is about 4 hours. the right format would be mpeg2, i'd
> imagine because i'd like to be able to play it on commodity dvd players.
> I just like to preserve the file on a digital medium. i know one thing,
> i can't even move this file to my xp machine because of its size to use
> any windows programs besides, even when i use smaller than 4 gb files on
> my wxp machine, it can't play the hd recordings from my linux box.
> that's why i do all of my multi media with linux including graphics,
> music, video, dvd, etc. anyways, any recommendation would be greatly
> appreciated.
"lark" <hamzee@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Ken Maltby wrote:
>>
>> You said that this "Big file" was a MythTV recording. You might
>> consider recording in less than 4 hour batches. I haven't seen many
>> TV programs that run for four hours straight, so does this "Big file"
>> contain more than one program?
>>
>> You can find tools to split up your Big file at:
>> www.videohelp.com and http://sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Get "GSpot" to establish what type of video and audio is in this
>> "MPEG4" file. Read the "Super Quick Start for Newbies"
>> http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
>>
>> The fact is that you don't have your Windows XP system
>> properly setup. You can easily do much more running under
>> XP than you can do using Linux. GSpot will show you the
>> codec that you need to have installed to play the video and
>> audio in the "hd recordings from your Linux box". You could
>> also install VLC on your XP machine.
>> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
>>
>> That should get you started on the right track.
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Ken man,
> Thanks for your response. The file is a recording of the football national
> championship game between osu and lsu. i'd like for all of it to fit on
> one dvd (either single but preferably double layer dvd). i know for sure
> the file is the hight quality mpeg4 which h.264. i have no problem playing
> the file on my linux box but I can't play it on winxp at all. as mentioned
> by somebody else wm associates itself with the file but when i try to play
> the file with it, it boogers off. my main objective is to compress the
> file down so I can fit it on one double layer dvd and that is what I am
> looking for; a software that does the compression and the burn;however, if
> it doesn't do the burn that's not a big deal, i can burn the file myself
> to the dvd with other tools. one other thing is that if there aren't any
> apps that cannot or doesn't compress to burn to a double layer dvd, i can
> also live with a single layer dvd. i understand the quality is not going
> to be great but oh well.
>
> thanks man
IF it is AVC/H.264 (which is how I translate "high quality H.264"),
you will need a proper codec added to your XP machine.
Ken Maltby wrote:
> "lark" <hamzee@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:VcqKj.312$7Z2.297@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net. ..
>> Ken Maltby wrote:
>
>>> You said that this "Big file" was a MythTV recording. You might
>>> consider recording in less than 4 hour batches. I haven't seen many
>>> TV programs that run for four hours straight, so does this "Big file"
>>> contain more than one program?
>>>
>>> You can find tools to split up your Big file at:
>>> www.videohelp.com and http://sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> Get "GSpot" to establish what type of video and audio is in this
>>> "MPEG4" file. Read the "Super Quick Start for Newbies"
>>> http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
>>>
>>> The fact is that you don't have your Windows XP system
>>> properly setup. You can easily do much more running under
>>> XP than you can do using Linux. GSpot will show you the
>>> codec that you need to have installed to play the video and
>>> audio in the "hd recordings from your Linux box". You could
>>> also install VLC on your XP machine.
>>> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
>>>
>>> That should get you started on the right track.
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Ken man,
>> Thanks for your response. The file is a recording of the football national
>> championship game between osu and lsu. i'd like for all of it to fit on
>> one dvd (either single but preferably double layer dvd). i know for sure
>> the file is the hight quality mpeg4 which h.264. i have no problem playing
>> the file on my linux box but I can't play it on winxp at all. as mentioned
>> by somebody else wm associates itself with the file but when i try to play
>> the file with it, it boogers off. my main objective is to compress the
>> file down so I can fit it on one double layer dvd and that is what I am
>> looking for; a software that does the compression and the burn;however, if
>> it doesn't do the burn that's not a big deal, i can burn the file myself
>> to the dvd with other tools. one other thing is that if there aren't any
>> apps that cannot or doesn't compress to burn to a double layer dvd, i can
>> also live with a single layer dvd. i understand the quality is not going
>> to be great but oh well.
>>
>> thanks man
>
> IF it is AVC/H.264 (which is how I translate "high quality H.264"),
> you will need a proper codec added to your XP machine.
>
> http://www.coreavc.com/
> http://www.coreavc.com/index.php?opt...d=21&Itemid=59
> http://www.corecodec.com/products/coreavc.html
>
> If $15 is too steep for you there is always ffdshow
> http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
>
> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...codec_pack.htm
>
> The full version includes a number of useful tools and the current
> Media Player Classic.
>
> This is a well liked converter that has features listed that would
> meet your needs, it's $42.50:
>
> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/ConvertXtoDVD.htm
>
> Try it out first.
>
> http://www.regnow.com/softsell/nph-s...inkid=discount
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
Ken man,
I am going to try some of these products specially the free ones.
thanks man.
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