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Old 02-01-2009, 03:50 PM
jw@eldorado.com
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Default Question about playing self-made disks

I have a Sony CDP-CE505 so-called compact disk player.
It plays only CD-R disks, not DVD. Audio, not video.
I like it because it has a 5-disk carousel tray.

It plays store-bought CD-R audio disks fine.
It plays CD-R audio disks made from a few selectively downloaded MP3
audio clips, using WMP fine.

I tried to use OpD2d to record 10-minutes of a small live broadcast.
I made a CD-R audio disk of the MP3 OpD2d saved.
The resulting disk will not play in my CDP-CE505.
Interestingly, the disk will play in my RCA DVD player, as well as in
both of my car players. as well as in WMP on my computer.

I did this twice with same result. I have examined the content of the
disks that play and those that do not. They all appear similar - with
so-called 'track files' (CDA)

So, my question is - Does this mean that any live broadcast disks I
create will not play on some players? That may present a problem down
the road.

Duke



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Old 02-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Stan Brown
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Default Re: Question about playing self-made disks

Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:50:15 -0500 from <jw@eldorado.com>:

> I tried to use OpD2d to record 10-minutes of a small live broadcast.
> I made a CD-R audio disk of the MP3 OpD2d saved.
> The resulting disk will not play in my CDP-CE505.


1. Did you finalize it? I don't know the specific software you
mention, but most have an option to close a disc, and you need to
select that option for maximum compatibility, especially with older
equipment. I've got a CDP-CE525 and I'm pretty sure it's more than
ten years old.

And yes, the CDP series is supposed to play CD-Rs; mine has never yet
failed on one I burned.

> Interestingly, the disk will play in my RCA DVD player, as well as in
> both of my car players. as well as in WMP on my computer.


Three possibilities (aside from the aforementioned failure to
finalize): substandard media, substandard burner, or burning at too
high a speed.

2. Brand name and price are no guide to media quality, as the
manufacturers typically contract from whoever is cheapest that month
and then have their own names slapped on them. So try a completely
different brand and hope for a difference.

3. If your burner is ageing, the laser might be going bad. Any
chance of burning from a different computer?

4. Try burning at lower speed. Since your program is 10 minutes long,
1x will take only about 12 minutes including finalizing.

Oh yes, one more possibility:

5. Maybe there's a bug in your software, and newer playback equipment
compensates for the bug. Try burning with iTunes -- you don't get a
lot of options, but there's also no room for something to go wrong
when making an audio CD-R.

> So, my question is - Does this mean that any live broadcast disks I
> create will not play on some players? That may present a problem down
> the road.


I don't believe the issue is with the type of program, but rather
with the creation process.

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Old 02-01-2009, 10:49 PM
jw@eldorado.com
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Default Re: Re: Question about playing self-made disks

On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:00:14 -0500, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>1. Did you finalize it? I don't know the specific software you
>mention, but most have an option to close a disc, and you need to
>select that option for maximum compatibility, especially with older
>equipment. I've got a CDP-CE525 and I'm pretty sure it's more than
>ten years old.


I don't find the option, but I know what you are talking about. Of
course, remember that the disk that will not read in the CDP will read
(play) just fine in my RCA DVD player as well as on my computer.
>
>And yes, the CDP series is supposed to play CD-Rs; mine has never yet
>failed on one I burned.


Mine did too, over the years.

>Three possibilities (aside from the aforementioned failure to
>finalize): substandard media, substandard burner, or burning at too
>high a speed.


I have tried Taiyo Yudens and Memorex. I have tried a Sony and a New
Technology burner. I don't get an option that I see to lower the burn
speed.
>
>2. Brand name and price are no guide to media quality, as the
>manufacturers typically contract from whoever is cheapest that month
>and then have their own names slapped on them. So try a completely
>different brand and hope for a difference.
>
>3. If your burner is ageing, the laser might be going bad. Any
>chance of burning from a different computer?
>
>4. Try burning at lower speed. Since your program is 10 minutes long,
>1x will take only about 12 minutes including finalizing.


I will try again to find how to lower the speed.
>
>Oh yes, one more possibility:
>
>5. Maybe there's a bug in your software, and newer playback equipment
>compensates for the bug. Try burning with iTunes -- you don't get a
>lot of options, but there's also no room for something to go wrong
>when making an audio CD-R.


>I don't believe the issue is with the type of program, but rather
>with the creation process.


I am hoping so for sure.

Time for football!

Thanks
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