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Old 02-03-2009, 02:22 PM
jw@eldorado.com
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Default I still can't make audio disks that will play

Well, I have tried many things.

To review, I have two standalone players in my home theater setup.
One is a RCA single disk DVD player. The other is a SONY CDP-CE505
five disk (carousel) CD player. I am trying to burn audio disks on my
XP SP2 computer from .MP3 files. The result is that when I burn a
multi-track (.cda files) CD disk, it will always play on the RCA, but
almost never will play on the SONY. Sometimes it will, however.
I am using Taiyo Yuden and Memorex CD-R's. The program CDSPEED shows
identical disk contents.

This is what I have tried. I added a burner drive to my computer so
that now I have a SONY DRU-180A PATA (IDE) DVD burner and a TSST
SH_S203N SATA DVD burner. I used ITUNES to burn two identical CD
Memorex disks at MAX speeds in the two computer drives. Both play
fine on the computer. Both play fine in the RCA player. Neither play
in the SONY player. I reduced the burn speeds for both drives to a
ridiculous 1X and repeated the test. I got the same results. However,
I accidentally left the one that I burned in the SONY burner in the
SONY player with the latter left on, and suddenly after about 5
minutes, the danged disk started playing! To prove I wasn't seeing
things I repeated the test. and after the same delay the disk played
again! I tried the other duplicate disk in the SONY player, and it
would not play, even after many minutes.

The only thing I can think to try is another computer. I don't have
one right now, but maybe I can assemble one. Think that is worth a
try? Anyone?

Duke
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: I still can't make audio disks that will play

jw@eldorado.com wrote:

>The only thing I can think to try is another computer. I don't have
>one right now, but maybe I can assemble one. Think that is worth a
>try? Anyone?


Grasping at straws, but...

You could try a different burning program. Burrrn is free and seems to install
without problems: www.burrrn.net

You might get more help at one of the CD groups instead of a DVD group.

I gave up on Sony players long ago because they were more finicky about what
they would play, even with factory-pressed discs. The five-minute delay before
playing suggests that the player is somewhat out of alignment or the laser is
going bad.


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Old 02-03-2009, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Re: I still can't make audio disks that will play

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:58:53 -0500, Kimba W Lion
<kimbawlion@norepliesbyemail.com> wrote:

>jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>
>>The only thing I can think to try is another computer. I don't have
>>one right now, but maybe I can assemble one. Think that is worth a
>>try? Anyone?

>
>Grasping at straws, but...
>
>You could try a different burning program. Burrrn is free and seems to install
>without problems: www.burrrn.net



Oh I should have said - I have tried burning with (1) WPM and (2)
NERO. Same results

>
>You might get more help at one of the CD groups instead of a DVD group.


I never thought to see if such existed. Thanks

>
>I gave up on Sony players long ago because they were more finicky about what
>they would play, even with factory-pressed discs. The five-minute delay before
>playing suggests that the player is somewhat out of alignment or the laser is
>going bad.


Think so? I wish I had another player to try.


Thanks for response.

Duke
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: I still can't make audio disks that will play

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:40:37 -0500, jw@eldorado.com wrote:


>>jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>>
>>>The only thing I can think to try is another computer. I don't have
>>>one right now, but maybe I can assemble one. Think that is worth a
>>>try? Anyone?

>>
>>Grasping at straws, but...
>>


Well guess what? I had a junk computer in the closet, slow as all
getout. I added a burner drive to it and booted it up and burned the
set of .MP3 audio files using Itunes. The resulting CD disk played
with no trouble in the standalone SONY 5-disk player! Since the
burner drive was one of the ones I had tried earlier in the first
computer, I have to assume my problem is with the computer itself.
Hardware or software.
No idea which.

Since I have tried different burner drives, and different burning
software, I am left to wonder where to look next. I think I shall
disable everything I can find that is running concurrently to see if I
can burn a good disk that way.

I did make a post to a CD group. Thanks


Duke
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:33 PM
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jw@eldorado.com wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:40:37 -0500, jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>
>
>>> jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only thing I can think to try is another computer. I don't have
>>>> one right now, but maybe I can assemble one. Think that is worth a
>>>> try? Anyone?
>>> Grasping at straws, but...
>>>

>
> Well guess what? I had a junk computer in the closet, slow as all
> getout. I added a burner drive to it and booted it up and burned the
> set of .MP3 audio files using Itunes. The resulting CD disk played
> with no trouble in the standalone SONY 5-disk player! Since the
> burner drive was one of the ones I had tried earlier in the first
> computer, I have to assume my problem is with the computer itself.
> Hardware or software.
> No idea which.
>
> Since I have tried different burner drives, and different burning
> software, I am left to wonder where to look next. I think I shall
> disable everything I can find that is running concurrently to see if I
> can burn a good disk that way.
>
> I did make a post to a CD group. Thanks
>
>
> Duke


Perhaps you have tried burning TOO FAST!

That is a common problem.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:19 PM
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jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:58:53 -0500, Kimba W Lion
> <kimbawlion@norepliesbyemail.com> wrote:
>
> >jw@eldorado.com wrote:
> >
> >>The only thing I can think to try is another computer. I don't have
> >>one right now, but maybe I can assemble one. Think that is worth a
> >>try? Anyone?

> >
> >Grasping at straws, but...
> >
> >You could try a different burning program. Burrrn is free and seems to install
> >without problems: www.burrrn.net

>
> Oh I should have said - I have tried burning with (1) WPM and (2)
> NERO. Same results
>
> >
> >You might get more help at one of the CD groups instead of a DVD group.

>
> I never thought to see if such existed. Thanks


this group is not as busy but there are one or two regs who may help
out, just try to distance yourself from the in-fighting and read the
part of replies which are of use

alt.comp.periphs.cdr



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Old 02-04-2009, 12:05 AM
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:19:10 GMT, Paul Heslop
<paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>
>this group is not as busy but there are one or two regs who may help
>out, just try to distance yourself from the in-fighting and read the
>part of replies which are of use
>
>alt.comp.periphs.cdr



Thank you

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Old 02-04-2009, 03:42 PM
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:40:39 -0500, jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>Well guess what? I had a junk computer in the closet, slow as all
>getout. I added a burner drive to it and booted it up and burned the
>set of .MP3 audio files using Itunes. The resulting CD disk played
>with no trouble in the standalone SONY 5-disk player! Since the
>burner drive was one of the ones I had tried earlier in the first
>computer, I have to assume my problem is with the computer itself.
>Hardware or software.
>No idea which.
>
>Since I have tried different burner drives, and different burning
>software, I am left to wonder where to look next. I think I shall
>disable everything I can find that is running concurrently to see if I
>can burn a good disk that way.
>


Well I did that, and burned another CD. Same result.
I then changed the PSU, thinking the old one might be hiccupping
during burning. Same result. All this leaves me thinking that my
problem is in the MOBO or cards thereon, CPU, cables, or RAM. Agree?

Duke
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:56 PM
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:42:48 -0500, jw@eldorado.com wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:40:39 -0500, jw@eldorado.com wrote:
>>Well guess what? I had a junk computer in the closet, slow as all
>>getout. I added a burner drive to it and booted it up and burned the
>>set of .MP3 audio files using Itunes. The resulting CD disk played
>>with no trouble in the standalone SONY 5-disk player! Since the
>>burner drive was one of the ones I had tried earlier in the first
>>computer, I have to assume my problem is with the computer itself.
>>Hardware or software.
>>No idea which.
>>
>>Since I have tried different burner drives, and different burning
>>software, I am left to wonder where to look next. I think I shall
>>disable everything I can find that is running concurrently to see if I
>>can burn a good disk that way.
>>

>
>Well I did that, and burned another CD. Same result.
>I then changed the PSU, thinking the old one might be hiccupping
>during burning. Same result. All this leaves me thinking that my
>problem is in the MOBO or cards thereon, CPU, cables, or RAM. Agree?
>
>Duke


I've been following your exasperations in the adventures of CD
burning. Since you seem unable to burn even a couple CD's in a row
without problems playing them back on all hardware, perhaps you're
doing something else while attempting to burn them.

1. Have you disabled ALL background applications like screen savers,
anti-virus, screen savers while burning?

2. Do you keep your hands OFF the keyboard and do absolutely nothing
with your computer while it is burning this CD?

3. If you haven't already have you asked some friend or a neighbor to
burn these files for you on THEIR computer to see if the result
is the same?

The problem seems you as yet haven't isolated what is causing the
problem. Until you do, you'll never get anywhere. While it could be
hardware or media related, I doubt that's the problem. More likely
something behind the scenes is throwing a monkey wrench into the mix
or there might something odd about the files you're attempting to burn
that results in only hit or miss results.

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Old 02-04-2009, 09:32 PM
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:56:22 -0600, TruthSquad@hope.com wrote:

>I've been following your exasperations in the adventures of CD
>burning. Since you seem unable to burn even a couple CD's in a row
>without problems playing them back on all hardware, perhaps you're
>doing something else while attempting to burn them.
>
>1. Have you disabled ALL background applications like screen savers,
> anti-virus, screen savers while burning?


Thanks for your interest. Yes I tried to disable ALL background apps,
even my AVG anti-virus app, and my HP AIO so-called monitor. Same
result,
>
>2. Do you keep your hands OFF the keyboard and do absolutely nothing
> with your computer while it is burning this CD?


I can't say that I have done this. I am an impatient fellow.
>
>3. If you haven't already have you asked some friend or a neighbor to
> burn these files for you on THEIR computer to see if the result
> is the same?


I guess you missed the part where I said I tried burning on an
obsolete computer I resurrected from my closet - burned the same audio
..MP3 files onto the same blank CD-R (Memorex in this case). Worked
fine - in all places, namely the computer, the SONY carousel player,
and the RCA DVD player. Yes I used the same burn software - namely
Itunes.

Duke

>
>The problem seems you as yet haven't isolated what is causing the
>problem. Until you do, you'll never get anywhere. While it could be
>hardware or media related, I doubt that's the problem. More likely
>something behind the scenes is throwing a monkey wrench into the mix
>or there might something odd about the files you're attempting to burn
>that results in only hit or miss results.

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