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  #1  
Old 12-02-2007, 04:01 AM
beekay
 
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Default Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
"chasing playback" and editing out comericals?

Many thanks,
Bob K.

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Old 12-02-2007, 06:15 AM
Paul Heslop
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

beekay wrote:
>
> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
>
> Many thanks,
> Bob K.


On a Panasonic with Hard Drive you have both options and both are
pretty much the same, with partial delete for removing adverts, the
ability to split and delete etc etc. I suppose the obvious differences
being capacity and speed.

Hard disc you can record in best quality and still get hours and hours
of recording, or lower quality for even longer, whereas DVD-ram is
going to be between 1 and 8 hours. With the hard disc you can do
hi-speed copying to a blank dvd.

The great advantage with DVD-ram, apart from the editing, is that it
doesn't need to be finalised to transfer between compatible
players/recorders.

So, get a Panasonic with a hard drive and you'll have the best of both
worlds :O)

Oh yeah, on both formats with panasonic you can playback as you
record.

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Old 12-02-2007, 05:47 PM
beekay
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:15:20 -0500, Paul Heslop wrote
(in article <47525B6E.13C2BE07@blueyonder.co.uk>):

> beekay wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
>> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Bob K.

>
> On a Panasonic with Hard Drive you have both options and both are
> pretty much the same, with partial delete for removing adverts, the
> ability to split and delete etc etc. I suppose the obvious differences
> being capacity and speed.
>
> Hard disc you can record in best quality and still get hours and hours
> of recording, or lower quality for even longer, whereas DVD-ram is
> going to be between 1 and 8 hours. With the hard disc you can do
> hi-speed copying to a blank dvd.
>
> The great advantage with DVD-ram, apart from the editing, is that it
> doesn't need to be finalised to transfer between compatible
> players/recorders.
>
> So, get a Panasonic with a hard drive and you'll have the best of both
> worlds :O)
>
> Oh yeah, on both formats with panasonic you can playback as you
> record.
>
>


Thanks for the clear, concise explanation. Much appreciated.

Any thoughts on the the Panasonic DMR-EZ47VK? It doesn't have a Hard Drive,
but it can record DVD-RAM and dub from VHS to DVD, which sounds pretty
versatile.

cheers,
Bob K.

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Old 12-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Paul Heslop
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

beekay wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:15:20 -0500, Paul Heslop wrote
> (in article <47525B6E.13C2BE07@blueyonder.co.uk>):
>
> > beekay wrote:
> >>
> >> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
> >> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Bob K.

> >
> > On a Panasonic with Hard Drive you have both options and both are
> > pretty much the same, with partial delete for removing adverts, the
> > ability to split and delete etc etc. I suppose the obvious differences
> > being capacity and speed.
> >
> > Hard disc you can record in best quality and still get hours and hours
> > of recording, or lower quality for even longer, whereas DVD-ram is
> > going to be between 1 and 8 hours. With the hard disc you can do
> > hi-speed copying to a blank dvd.
> >
> > The great advantage with DVD-ram, apart from the editing, is that it
> > doesn't need to be finalised to transfer between compatible
> > players/recorders.
> >
> > So, get a Panasonic with a hard drive and you'll have the best of both
> > worlds :O)
> >
> > Oh yeah, on both formats with panasonic you can playback as you
> > record.
> >
> >

>
> Thanks for the clear, concise explanation. Much appreciated.
>
> Any thoughts on the the Panasonic DMR-EZ47VK? It doesn't have a Hard Drive,
> but it can record DVD-RAM and dub from VHS to DVD, which sounds pretty
> versatile.
>
> cheers,
> Bob K.


We had one of the vhs/dvd recorders but were very unhappy with the VHS
side of things. The mechanical noise from it was worse than any other
machine we have had and we weren't impressed with picture quality etc
from the VHS side either.
It can be handy and obviously is a bit of a space saver but it really
wasn't to my taste.

--
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:38 PM
Rick Merrill
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

beekay wrote:
> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
>
> Many thanks,
> Bob K.
>


"Chasing playback"

"All recordings can be watched (and fast forwarded) from the beginning
while the program still is being recorded. It's called "chasing
playback." You just hit "play," and it works for all kinds of
recordings. Hit "stop," and you're watching live TV. Very nice.
-http://www.media.uio.no/personer/andersf/blog/archive/harddisk/usingthe.html
using the sharp dvhr350s (Surftrail sidebar)"

To do that you would need a DVD recorder that includes a hard drive.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:24 AM
beekay
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:38 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote
(in article <_rSdnUhS2vwilM7anZ2dnUVZ_ujinZ2d@comcast.com>):

> beekay wrote:
>> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
>> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Bob K.
>>

>
> "Chasing playback"
>
> "All recordings can be watched (and fast forwarded) from the beginning
> while the program still is being recorded. It's called "chasing
> playback." You just hit "play," and it works for all kinds of
> recordings. Hit "stop," and you're watching live TV. Very nice.
> -http://www.media.uio.no/personer/andersf/blog/archive/harddisk/usingthe.html
> using the sharp dvhr350s (Surftrail sidebar)"
>
> To do that you would need a DVD recorder that includes a hard drive.


So you can't do time slip or chasing playback with a DVD-RAM unit?

I've been plonking about on the 'net and it seems that DVD recorders with
Hard Drives aren't being manufactured anymore. I really don't want a TiVo box
or any other rent-from-the-cable-company units. What to do?

Thanks,
-Bob K.

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Old 12-03-2007, 01:01 AM
Paul Heslop
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

beekay wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:38 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote
> (in article <_rSdnUhS2vwilM7anZ2dnUVZ_ujinZ2d@comcast.com>):
>
> > beekay wrote:
> >> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
> >> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Bob K.
> >>

> >
> > "Chasing playback"
> >
> > "All recordings can be watched (and fast forwarded) from the beginning
> > while the program still is being recorded. It's called "chasing
> > playback." You just hit "play," and it works for all kinds of
> > recordings. Hit "stop," and you're watching live TV. Very nice.
> > -http://www.media.uio.no/personer/andersf/blog/archive/harddisk/usingthe.html
> > using the sharp dvhr350s (Surftrail sidebar)"
> >
> > To do that you would need a DVD recorder that includes a hard drive.

>
> So you can't do time slip or chasing playback with a DVD-RAM unit?
>


yes, you can... I already told you that :O)

> I've been plonking about on the 'net and it seems that DVD recorders with
> Hard Drives aren't being manufactured anymore. I really don't want a TiVo box
> or any other rent-from-the-cable-company units. What to do?
>

DVD recorders with hard drives can be found all over the place, if you
have an idea what you're looking for. I don't know if you're in the UK
or USA or what though, but try looking at Panasonic range. Take a look
at the higher models on this page

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/dvd-recorders/index.htm

If you're outside the UK this might not help for pricing but look for
the machine on these pages with HDD and that may help you to find a
model to look for.

http://tinyurl.com/2w9fn4

--
Paul (We won't die of devotion)
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:25 AM
beekay
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:01:11 -0500, Paul Heslop wrote
(in article <4753633F.FC33A3F7@blueyonder.co.uk>):

> beekay wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:38 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote
>> (in article <_rSdnUhS2vwilM7anZ2dnUVZ_ujinZ2d@comcast.com>):
>>
>>> beekay wrote:
>>>> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
>>>> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Bob K.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Chasing playback"
>>>
>>> "All recordings can be watched (and fast forwarded) from the beginning
>>> while the program still is being recorded. It's called "chasing
>>> playback." You just hit "play," and it works for all kinds of
>>> recordings. Hit "stop," and you're watching live TV. Very nice.
>>> -http://www.media.uio.no/personer/andersf/blog/archive/harddisk/usingthe.ht
>>> ml
>>> using the sharp dvhr350s (Surftrail sidebar)"
>>>
>>> To do that you would need a DVD recorder that includes a hard drive.

>>
>> So you can't do time slip or chasing playback with a DVD-RAM unit?
>>

>
> yes, you can... I already told you that :O)


Yes, you did. Another poster named Rick Merrill said I can't.
>
>> I've been plonking about on the 'net and it seems that DVD recorders with
>> Hard Drives aren't being manufactured anymore. I really don't want a TiVo
>> box
>> or any other rent-from-the-cable-company units. What to do?
>>

> DVD recorders with hard drives can be found all over the place, if you
> have an idea what you're looking for. I don't know if you're in the UK
> or USA or what though, but try looking at Panasonic range. Take a look
> at the higher models on this page


I'm in the US. However, this NG seems to be made up mostly of UK posters.
>
> http://www.panasonic.co.uk/dvd-recorders/index.htm
>
> If you're outside the UK this might not help for pricing but look for
> the machine on these pages with HDD and that may help you to find a
> model to look for.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2w9fn4
>


Thanks again for your advice.

-Bob K.


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  #9  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:00 AM
Paul Heslop
 
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Default Re: Hard drive DVD recorder vs. DVD-RAM?

beekay wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:01:11 -0500, Paul Heslop wrote
> (in article <4753633F.FC33A3F7@blueyonder.co.uk>):
>
> > beekay wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:38 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote
> >> (in article <_rSdnUhS2vwilM7anZ2dnUVZ_ujinZ2d@comcast.com>):
> >>
> >>> beekay wrote:
> >>>> Can anyone explain to me which format DVD recorder is the better bet for
> >>>> "chasing playback" and editing out comericals?
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks,
> >>>> Bob K.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> "Chasing playback"
> >>>
> >>> "All recordings can be watched (and fast forwarded) from the beginning
> >>> while the program still is being recorded. It's called "chasing
> >>> playback." You just hit "play," and it works for all kinds of
> >>> recordings. Hit "stop," and you're watching live TV. Very nice.
> >>> -http://www.media.uio.no/personer/andersf/blog/archive/harddisk/usingthe.ht
> >>> ml
> >>> using the sharp dvhr350s (Surftrail sidebar)"
> >>>
> >>> To do that you would need a DVD recorder that includes a hard drive.
> >>
> >> So you can't do time slip or chasing playback with a DVD-RAM unit?
> >>

> >
> > yes, you can... I already told you that :O)

>
> Yes, you did. Another poster named Rick Merrill said I can't.
> >
> >> I've been plonking about on the 'net and it seems that DVD recorders with
> >> Hard Drives aren't being manufactured anymore. I really don't want a TiVo
> >> box
> >> or any other rent-from-the-cable-company units. What to do?
> >>

> > DVD recorders with hard drives can be found all over the place, if you
> > have an idea what you're looking for. I don't know if you're in the UK
> > or USA or what though, but try looking at Panasonic range. Take a look
> > at the higher models on this page

>
> I'm in the US. However, this NG seems to be made up mostly of UK posters.


we're just nosey :O)

> >
> > http://www.panasonic.co.uk/dvd-recorders/index.htm
> >
> > If you're outside the UK this might not help for pricing but look for
> > the machine on these pages with HDD and that may help you to find a
> > model to look for.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2w9fn4
> >

>
> Thanks again for your advice.
>
> -Bob K.


You're welcome Bob, and good luck.

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