DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my stand-
alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
from another spindle, on my PC.
Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
offer some insight.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
dmcg wrote:
>
> I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
> unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
> imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my stand-
> alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
> from another spindle, on my PC.
>
> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
> why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
> offer some insight.
>
> D.
your burner may be incompatible or may need a firmware upgrade. If
it's an older one it may not be able to cope with the speed of the
discs without an upgrade. If you know the exact model of the burner
check the website for any firmware updates.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
Paul Heslop wrote:
> dmcg wrote:
>> I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
>> unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
>> imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my stand-
>> alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
>> from another spindle, on my PC.
>>
>> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
>> why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
>> offer some insight.
>>
>> D.
>
> your burner may be incompatible or may need a firmware upgrade. If
> it's an older one it may not be able to cope with the speed of the
> discs without an upgrade.
Aren't all discs backwards compatible all the way to 1x? I don't see
where the speed of the discs is an issue. Their listed speeds are the
maximum, not the minimum.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
Tarkus wrote:
>
> Paul Heslop wrote:
> > dmcg wrote:
> >> I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
> >> unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
> >> imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my stand-
> >> alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
> >> from another spindle, on my PC.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
> >> why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
> >> offer some insight.
> >>
> >> D.
> >
> > your burner may be incompatible or may need a firmware upgrade. If
> > it's an older one it may not be able to cope with the speed of the
> > discs without an upgrade.
>
> Aren't all discs backwards compatible all the way to 1x? I don't see
> where the speed of the discs is an issue. Their listed speeds are the
> maximum, not the minimum.
I am sure I have seen it mentioned that 16X speed discs may not be
compatible with some drives which the firmware was not written for
16X. I may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. :O)
actually, on a little google I just found this and it's a bit scary,
but hopefully doesn't apply in this case
"TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
(DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
(ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
SP mode (DVD quality)."
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
Paul Heslop wrote:
> actually, on a little google I just found this and it's a bit scary,
> but hopefully doesn't apply in this case
>
> http://www.tiktak-it.co.uk/acatalog/...D-R_Discs.html
>
> "TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
> DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
> (DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
> provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
> (ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
> recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
> store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
> SP mode (DVD quality)."
Yes, that is scary indeed.
OTOH, new burners are dirt cheap these days and don't have these issues.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
Tarkus wrote:
>
> Paul Heslop wrote:
> > actually, on a little google I just found this and it's a bit scary,
> > but hopefully doesn't apply in this case
> >
> > http://www.tiktak-it.co.uk/acatalog/...D-R_Discs.html
> >
> > "TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
> > DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
> > (DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
> > provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
> > (ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
> > recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
> > store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
> > SP mode (DVD quality)."
>
> Yes, that is scary indeed.
>
> OTOH, new burners are dirt cheap these days and don't have these issues.
Yep. I held fire myself til very recently, til I could get a machine
with all formats and 16X for a reasonable price.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
In article <473E25C1.77D0EE78@blueyonder.co.uk>,
Paul Heslop <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Tarkus wrote:
>>
>> Paul Heslop wrote:
>> > dmcg wrote:
>> >> I recently purchased a spindle of TDK-R (16x) discs that are
>> >> unrecognizable on my PC and unburnable, using NERO, ROXIO and
>> >> imgburn. I'm running Windows XP, SP2. The discs work fine on my stand-
>> >> alone LITE-0N DVD recorder and I've since been able to burn TDK-R's,
>> >> from another spindle, on my PC.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem or know of a reason
>> >> why this phenomenon might exist. Thanks in advance to whomever can
>> >> offer some insight.
>> >>
>> >> D.
>> >
>> > your burner may be incompatible or may need a firmware upgrade. If
>> > it's an older one it may not be able to cope with the speed of the
>> > discs without an upgrade.
>>
>> Aren't all discs backwards compatible all the way to 1x? I don't see
>> where the speed of the discs is an issue. Their listed speeds are the
>> maximum, not the minimum.
>
>I am sure I have seen it mentioned that 16X speed discs may not be
>compatible with some drives which the firmware was not written for
>16X. I may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. :O)
>
>actually, on a little google I just found this and it's a bit scary,
>but hopefully doesn't apply in this case
>
>http://www.tiktak-it.co.uk/acatalog/...D-R_Discs.html
>
>"TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
>DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
>(DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
>provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
>(ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
>recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
>store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
>SP mode (DVD quality)."
This comment refers to a particular ancient Pioneer DVD-R drive, as I
remember; and that issue had long since been addressed by a firmware
update.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
"Mike S." wrote:
> >"TDK DVD-R - 4.7GB - 16x speed - box of 10 jewel cases. Ref: TDK-6153
> >DVD-R47CBEC10: TDK high performance write once DVD minus discs
> >(DVD-R). Box of 10 individual jewel cases. These single sided discs
> >provide the standard 4.7GB data capacity and are rated 1x - 16x speed
> >(ver 2.1 rev 6.0). It should be noted that use in incompatible
> >recorders may lead to permanent damage to the recorder. The disc can
> >store 4 hours of video capacity in EP mode (VHS quality) or 2 hours in
> >SP mode (DVD quality)."
>
> This comment refers to a particular ancient Pioneer DVD-R drive, as I
> remember; and that issue had long since been addressed by a firmware
> update.
ah, that's a relief.
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Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
ChairmanOfTheBored wrote:
> Since a player decides it max burn capacity, I find it VERY HARD to
> believe that the disc medium can produce a scenario where the
> player/burner has a catastrophic failure due to an attempt to burn ANY
> burnable disc in its library of compatible mediums.
I agree, it seems quite over the top, but it is just something I found
while searching for any mention of problems with the discs.
Re: DVD-R Discs that will only work on stand-alone recorder...Why?
Herbert John \"Jackie\" Gleason wrote:
>
> Bull****. A higher "speed of disc" will burn at a slower speed in ANY
> burner.
>
> You need to "cope with" keeping your bull**** to yourself.
Oh great, an angry person for no good reason. I will state again I
have seen it mentioned, even on the external casing of discs, that
some drives may need a firmware update to use the discs. I was making
a suggestion, and it certainly isn't cast in stone. BTW, where were
YOU and where is YOUR answer to the problem?
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