DVD Authoring an xvid pr divx avi for player without divx

What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro xvid
encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded files.

Beemer

"Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro xvid
> encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded files.
>
> Beemer
>

You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it looks
like you know the main part. Now all you need is to turn
that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
program will do.

You might want to check this one out, though:
http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
while they do a lot of talking about the program's
ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
as well.

You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com

Luck;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
|
| "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
| > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro xvid
| > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded files.
| >
| > Beemer
| >
|
| You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it looks
| like you know the main part. Now all you need is to turn
| that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
| authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
| program will do.
|
| You might want to check this one out, though:
| http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
| while they do a lot of talking about the program's
| ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
| like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
| as well.
|
| You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
| Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
|
| Luck;
| Ken
|
|
Ken,

I am familiar with several software conversion programs and all was/is well
when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when I use my
standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get "cannot play this
disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I cannot tell whether it
is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of 25fps. On the other
hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean that any region
free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that it must be a 25fps
NTSC DVD?

I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want auto/pal/ntsc before
converting. However it does not indicate whether it will convert a 29fpsavi
to 25fps in the same process.

It was after considering the above I realised that I am ignorant about the
relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file format. In other
words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?

Beemer

"Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:FsJsi.198$cw7.153@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
>
> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> |
> | "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> | news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> | > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro xvid
> | > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded files.
> | >
> | > Beemer
> | >
> |
> | You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it looks
> | like you know the main part. Now all you need is to turn
> | that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
> | authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
> | program will do.
> |
> | You might want to check this one out, though:
> | http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
> | while they do a lot of talking about the program's
> | ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
> | like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
> | as well.
> |
> | You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
> | Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
> |
> | Luck;
> | Ken
> |
> |
> Ken,
>
> I am familiar with several software conversion programs and all was/is
> well
> when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when I use my
> standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get "cannot play this
> disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I cannot tell whether
> it
> is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of 25fps. On the
> other
> hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean that any region
> free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that it must be a
> 25fps
> NTSC DVD?
>
> I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want auto/pal/ntsc before
> converting. However it does not indicate whether it will convert a
> 29fpsavi
> to 25fps in the same process.
>
> It was after considering the above I realised that I am ignorant about the
> relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file format. In other
> words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?
>
> Beemer
>

I can't help with "Convert to DVD" programs.

Basics:

AVI is a container definition, avi files could mean anything,
"how many will fit" depends on their compression and what
they actually are.

A normal video DVD is made of MPEG-2 video.

MPEG-4 video, including DivX, can compress video at a
set quality to a smaller file size than can MPEG-2.

Video that is compressed for download over the Internet
and then transcoded to a less compressed format will suffer
some quality impact. It will also become a much larger file
in the less compressed format.

DVD compatible MPEG is less compressed than DivX
or XviD downloads.

The best conversion of highly compressed video into DVD
compatible video, that retains as much quality as possible,
will result in a much larger MPEG-2 file/VOB.

Transcoding the DivX to MPEG-2, at the same
compression ratio, (and therefor same file size) is possible -
but the video will be practically unviewable.

Any program that "Converts", "Burns", or makes a DVD
from "AVIs" is transcoding the video.

The traditional, and most controllable, way to transcode is
with an Encoder. For DVD that would be a MPEG Encoder.

Transcoding takes time, to squeak out the best possible
quality can take a whole lot of time.

The traditional, and most controllable, way to create a DVD,
from the DVD compatible MPEG-2, is to use a DVD
Authoring program.

There are programs that "Convert to DVD", if you can't be
bothered to learn the process and how to manipulate it, then
use one of those.

--------------------------

Now transcoding your 350Mb DivX files into 700-730Mb
DVD compliant MPEG-2 files, will let you fit six of them on a
"4.7Gb" DVD.

You can also author DivX Ultra, check out this:
http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html

www.videohelp.com www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org

are good sources for the process and tools involved.

Luck;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ZsWdnQ7-jfM26S7bnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
|
| "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| news:FsJsi.198$cw7.153@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
| >
| > "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
| > news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
| > |
| > | "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| > | news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
| > | > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro
xvid
| > | > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded files.
| > | >
| > | > Beemer
| > | >
| > |
| > | You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it looks
| > | like you know the main part. Now all you need is to turn
| > | that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
| > | authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
| > | program will do.
| > |
| > | You might want to check this one out, though:
| > | http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
| > | while they do a lot of talking about the program's
| > | ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
| > | like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
| > | as well.
| > |
| > | You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
| > | Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
| > |
| > | Luck;
| > | Ken
| > |
| > |
| > Ken,
| >
| > I am familiar with several software conversion programs and all was/is
| > well
| > when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when I use my
| > standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get "cannot play this
| > disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I cannot tell
whether
| > it
| > is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of 25fps. On the
| > other
| > hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean that any
region
| > free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that it must be a
| > 25fps
| > NTSC DVD?
| >
| > I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want auto/pal/ntsc before
| > converting. However it does not indicate whether it will convert a
| > 29fpsavi
| > to 25fps in the same process.
| >
| > It was after considering the above I realised that I am ignorant about
the
| > relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file format. In
other
| > words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?
| >
| > Beemer
| >
|
| I can't help with "Convert to DVD" programs.
|
| Basics:
|
| AVI is a container definition, avi files could mean anything,
| "how many will fit" depends on their compression and what
| they actually are.
|
| A normal video DVD is made of MPEG-2 video.
|
| MPEG-4 video, including DivX, can compress video at a
| set quality to a smaller file size than can MPEG-2.
|
| Video that is compressed for download over the Internet
| and then transcoded to a less compressed format will suffer
| some quality impact. It will also become a much larger file
| in the less compressed format.
|
| DVD compatible MPEG is less compressed than DivX
| or XviD downloads.
|
| The best conversion of highly compressed video into DVD
| compatible video, that retains as much quality as possible,
| will result in a much larger MPEG-2 file/VOB.
|
| Transcoding the DivX to MPEG-2, at the same
| compression ratio, (and therefor same file size) is possible -
| but the video will be practically unviewable.
|
| Any program that "Converts", "Burns", or makes a DVD
| from "AVIs" is transcoding the video.
|
| The traditional, and most controllable, way to transcode is
| with an Encoder. For DVD that would be a MPEG Encoder.
|
| Transcoding takes time, to squeak out the best possible
| quality can take a whole lot of time.
|
| The traditional, and most controllable, way to create a DVD,
| from the DVD compatible MPEG-2, is to use a DVD
| Authoring program.
|
| There are programs that "Convert to DVD", if you can't be
| bothered to learn the process and how to manipulate it, then
| use one of those.
|
| --------------------------
|
| Now transcoding your 350Mb DivX files into 700-730Mb
| DVD compliant MPEG-2 files, will let you fit six of them on a
| "4.7Gb" DVD.
|
| You can also author DivX Ultra, check out this:
| http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
|
| www.videohelp.com www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org
|
| are good sources for the process and tools involved.
|
| Luck;
| Ken
|
|
Ken,

Thanks I have a lot of reading to do!

Beemer

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:32:01 GMT, "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:ZsWdnQ7-jfM26S7bnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
>|
>| "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>| news:FsJsi.198$cw7.153@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
>| >
>| > "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>| > news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>| > |
>| > | "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>| > | news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
>| > | > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro
>xvid
>| > | > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded files.
>| > | >
>| > | > Beemer
>| > | >
>| > |
>| > | You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it looks
>| > | like you know the main part. Now all you need is to turn
>| > | that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
>| > | authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
>| > | program will do.
>| > |
>| > | You might want to check this one out, though:
>| > | http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
>| > | while they do a lot of talking about the program's
>| > | ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
>| > | like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
>| > | as well.
>| > |
>| > | You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
>| > | Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
>| > |
>| > | Luck;
>| > | Ken
>| > |
>| > |
>| > Ken,
>| >
>| > I am familiar with several software conversion programs and all was/is
>| > well
>| > when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when I use my
>| > standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get "cannot play this
>| > disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I cannot tell
>whether
>| > it
>| > is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of 25fps. On the
>| > other
>| > hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean that any
>region
>| > free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that it must be a
>| > 25fps
>| > NTSC DVD?
>| >
>| > I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want auto/pal/ntsc before
>| > converting. However it does not indicate whether it will convert a
>| > 29fpsavi
>| > to 25fps in the same process.
>| >
>| > It was after considering the above I realised that I am ignorant about
>the
>| > relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file format. In
>other
>| > words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?
>| >
>| > Beemer
>| >
>|
>| I can't help with "Convert to DVD" programs.
>|
>| Basics:
>|
>| AVI is a container definition, avi files could mean anything,
>| "how many will fit" depends on their compression and what
>| they actually are.
>|
>| A normal video DVD is made of MPEG-2 video.
>|
>| MPEG-4 video, including DivX, can compress video at a
>| set quality to a smaller file size than can MPEG-2.
>|
>| Video that is compressed for download over the Internet
>| and then transcoded to a less compressed format will suffer
>| some quality impact. It will also become a much larger file
>| in the less compressed format.
>|
>| DVD compatible MPEG is less compressed than DivX
>| or XviD downloads.
>|
>| The best conversion of highly compressed video into DVD
>| compatible video, that retains as much quality as possible,
>| will result in a much larger MPEG-2 file/VOB.
>|
>| Transcoding the DivX to MPEG-2, at the same
>| compression ratio, (and therefor same file size) is possible -
>| but the video will be practically unviewable.
>|
>| Any program that "Converts", "Burns", or makes a DVD
>| from "AVIs" is transcoding the video.
>|
>| The traditional, and most controllable, way to transcode is
>| with an Encoder. For DVD that would be a MPEG Encoder.
>|
>| Transcoding takes time, to squeak out the best possible
>| quality can take a whole lot of time.
>|
>| The traditional, and most controllable, way to create a DVD,
>| from the DVD compatible MPEG-2, is to use a DVD
>| Authoring program.
>|
>| There are programs that "Convert to DVD", if you can't be
>| bothered to learn the process and how to manipulate it, then
>| use one of those.
>|
>| --------------------------
>|
>| Now transcoding your 350Mb DivX files into 700-730Mb
>| DVD compliant MPEG-2 files, will let you fit six of them on a
>| "4.7Gb" DVD.
>|
>| You can also author DivX Ultra, check out this:
>| http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
>|
>| www.videohelp.com www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org
>|
>| are good sources for the process and tools involved.
>|
>| Luck;
>| Ken
>|
>|
>Ken,
>
>Thanks I have a lot of reading to do!
>
>Beemer
>


Beemer.....let me jump in here with
a couple quick comments.

First....Ken knows what he's talking about. He's never
steered me.

Second....ConvertXtoDVD is a wonderful program for folks
who don't want to bother with the nitty-gritty of DVD design. It will
take ANY format file you hand it and burn a Pal OR NTSC compatible
DVD.

Thngs to be aware of...
It doesn't matter what format the INPUT is in, the
OUTPUT will be as you specify....

Multiple formats (MPG, AVI, etc) can be combined on
a single DVD...the program does all the conversion for
you

It has a basic Menu system that works well...not
fancy, but it does the job.

They have a new release coming out in the Fall which
will add lots of bells and whistles.

I used to be a DVD Authoring person but I've found
the AVI format and I like it for its small size and,
in 90% of the cases, super quality. Finding
ConvertXtoDVD to burn the AVI's was a big
saving grace.

In short...stick with ConvertXtoDVD....it's a great
program.

ask

<ask> wrote in message news:dlveb3tdccnpnhprttd7hcavkkjtp4i0q8@4ax.com...
| On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:32:01 GMT, "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote:
|
| >
| >"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
| >news:ZsWdnQ7-jfM26S7bnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
| >|
| >| "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| >| news:FsJsi.198$cw7.153@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
| >| >
| >| > "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
| >| > news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
| >| > |
| >| > | "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| >| > | news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
| >| > | > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which were divx ro
| >xvid
| >| > | > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid encoded
files.
| >| > | >
| >| > | > Beemer
| >| > | >
| >| > |
| >| > | You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it looks
| >| > | like you know the main part. Now all you need is to turn
| >| > | that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
| >| > | authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
| >| > | program will do.
| >| > |
| >| > | You might want to check this one out, though:
| >| > | http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
| >| > | while they do a lot of talking about the program's
| >| > | ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
| >| > | like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
| >| > | as well.
| >| > |
| >| > | You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
| >| > | Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
| >| > |
| >| > | Luck;
| >| > | Ken
| >| > |
| >| > |
| >| > Ken,
| >| >
| >| > I am familiar with several software conversion programs and all
was/is
| >| > well
| >| > when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when I use my
| >| > standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get "cannot play
this
| >| > disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I cannot tell
| >whether
| >| > it
| >| > is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of 25fps. On
the
| >| > other
| >| > hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean that any
| >region
| >| > free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that it must be a
| >| > 25fps
| >| > NTSC DVD?
| >| >
| >| > I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want auto/pal/ntsc before
| >| > converting. However it does not indicate whether it will convert a
| >| > 29fpsavi
| >| > to 25fps in the same process.
| >| >
| >| > It was after considering the above I realised that I am ignorant
about
| >the
| >| > relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file format. In
| >other
| >| > words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?
| >| >
| >| > Beemer
| >| >
| >|
| >| I can't help with "Convert to DVD" programs.
| >|
| >| Basics:
| >|
| >| AVI is a container definition, avi files could mean anything,
| >| "how many will fit" depends on their compression and what
| >| they actually are.
| >|
| >| A normal video DVD is made of MPEG-2 video.
| >|
| >| MPEG-4 video, including DivX, can compress video at a
| >| set quality to a smaller file size than can MPEG-2.
| >|
| >| Video that is compressed for download over the Internet
| >| and then transcoded to a less compressed format will suffer
| >| some quality impact. It will also become a much larger file
| >| in the less compressed format.
| >|
| >| DVD compatible MPEG is less compressed than DivX
| >| or XviD downloads.
| >|
| >| The best conversion of highly compressed video into DVD
| >| compatible video, that retains as much quality as possible,
| >| will result in a much larger MPEG-2 file/VOB.
| >|
| >| Transcoding the DivX to MPEG-2, at the same
| >| compression ratio, (and therefor same file size) is possible -
| >| but the video will be practically unviewable.
| >|
| >| Any program that "Converts", "Burns", or makes a DVD
| >| from "AVIs" is transcoding the video.
| >|
| >| The traditional, and most controllable, way to transcode is
| >| with an Encoder. For DVD that would be a MPEG Encoder.
| >|
| >| Transcoding takes time, to squeak out the best possible
| >| quality can take a whole lot of time.
| >|
| >| The traditional, and most controllable, way to create a DVD,
| >| from the DVD compatible MPEG-2, is to use a DVD
| >| Authoring program.
| >|
| >| There are programs that "Convert to DVD", if you can't be
| >| bothered to learn the process and how to manipulate it, then
| >| use one of those.
| >|
| >| --------------------------
| >|
| >| Now transcoding your 350Mb DivX files into 700-730Mb
| >| DVD compliant MPEG-2 files, will let you fit six of them on a
| >| "4.7Gb" DVD.
| >|
| >| You can also author DivX Ultra, check out this:
| >| http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
| >|
| >| www.videohelp.com www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org
| >|
| >| are good sources for the process and tools involved.
| >|
| >| Luck;
| >| Ken
| >|
| >|
| >Ken,
| >
| >Thanks I have a lot of reading to do!
| >
| >Beemer
| >
|
|
| Beemer.....let me jump in here with
| a couple quick comments.
|
| First....Ken knows what he's talking about. He's never
| steered me.
|
| Second....ConvertXtoDVD is a wonderful program for folks
| who don't want to bother with the nitty-gritty of DVD design. It will
| take ANY format file you hand it and burn a Pal OR NTSC compatible
| DVD.
|
| Thngs to be aware of...
| It doesn't matter what format the INPUT is in, the
| OUTPUT will be as you specify....
|
| Multiple formats (MPG, AVI, etc) can be combined on
| a single DVD...the program does all the conversion for
| you
|
| It has a basic Menu system that works well...not
| fancy, but it does the job.
|
| They have a new release coming out in the Fall which
| will add lots of bells and whistles.
|
| I used to be a DVD Authoring person but I've found
| the AVI format and I like it for its small size and,
| in 90% of the cases, super quality. Finding
| ConvertXtoDVD to burn the AVI's was a big
| saving grace.
|
| In short...stick with ConvertXtoDVD....it's a great
| program.
|
| ask
|
ask,

I am already using ConvertXtoDVD. When I set PAL as my preferred TV format
it converts a NTSC avi to PAL but does this mean that it automatically
converts the NTSC 29fps to PAL 25fps? I just can't figure out why some
DVDs made with ConvertXtoDVD give a "cannot play this disk" on my Sony
standalone player.

Lastly what is the ConvertXtoDVD "auto" mode? Why would I want to set it at
this instead of PAL?

Beemer

<ask> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:32:01 GMT, "Beemer"
> <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:ZsWdnQ7-jfM26S7bnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>|
>>| "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>| news:FsJsi.198$cw7.153@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
>>| >
>>| > "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>| > news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>| > |
>>| > | "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>| > | news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
>>| > | > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which
>>were divx ro
>>xvid
>>| > | > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid
>>encoded files.
>>| > | >
>>| > | > Beemer
>>| > | >
>>| > |
>>| > | You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it
>>looks
>>| > | like you know the main part. Now all you need is to
>>turn
>>| > | that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
>>| > | authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
>>| > | program will do.
>>| > |
>>| > | You might want to check this one out, though:
>>| > | http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
>>| > | while they do a lot of talking about the program's
>>| > | ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
>>| > | like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
>>| > | as well.
>>| > |
>>| > | You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
>>| > | Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
>>| > |
>>| > | Luck;
>>| > | Ken
>>| > |
>>| > |
>>| > Ken,
>>| >
>>| > I am familiar with several software conversion programs
>>and all was/is
>>| > well
>>| > when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when
>>I use my
>>| > standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get
>>"cannot play this
>>| > disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I
>>cannot tell
>>whether
>>| > it
>>| > is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of
>>25fps. On the
>>| > other
>>| > hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean
>>that any
>>region
>>| > free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that
>>it must be a
>>| > 25fps
>>| > NTSC DVD?
>>| >
>>| > I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want
>>auto/pal/ntsc before
>>| > converting. However it does not indicate whether it will
>>convert a
>>| > 29fpsavi
>>| > to 25fps in the same process.
>>| >
>>| > It was after considering the above I realised that I am
>>ignorant about
>>the
>>| > relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file
>>format. In
>>other
>>| > words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?
>>| >
>>| > Beemer
>>| >
>>|
>>| I can't help with "Convert to DVD" programs.
>>|
>>| Basics:
>>|
>>| AVI is a container definition, avi files could mean
>>anything,
>>| "how many will fit" depends on their compression and what
>>| they actually are.
>>|
>>| A normal video DVD is made of MPEG-2 video.
>>|
>>| MPEG-4 video, including DivX, can compress video at a
>>| set quality to a smaller file size than can MPEG-2.
>>|
>>| Video that is compressed for download over the Internet
>>| and then transcoded to a less compressed format will suffer
>>| some quality impact. It will also become a much larger file
>>| in the less compressed format.
>>|
>>| DVD compatible MPEG is less compressed than DivX
>>| or XviD downloads.
>>|
>>| The best conversion of highly compressed video into DVD
>>| compatible video, that retains as much quality as possible,
>>| will result in a much larger MPEG-2 file/VOB.
>>|
>>| Transcoding the DivX to MPEG-2, at the same
>>| compression ratio, (and therefor same file size) is
>>possible -
>>| but the video will be practically unviewable.
>>|
>>| Any program that "Converts", "Burns", or makes a DVD
>>| from "AVIs" is transcoding the video.
>>|
>>| The traditional, and most controllable, way to transcode is
>>| with an Encoder. For DVD that would be a MPEG Encoder.
>>|
>>| Transcoding takes time, to squeak out the best possible
>>| quality can take a whole lot of time.
>>|
>>| The traditional, and most controllable, way to create a
>>DVD,
>>| from the DVD compatible MPEG-2, is to use a DVD
>>| Authoring program.
>>|
>>| There are programs that "Convert to DVD", if you can't be
>>| bothered to learn the process and how to manipulate it, then
>>| use one of those.
>>|
>>| --------------------------
>>|
>>| Now transcoding your 350Mb DivX files into 700-730Mb
>>| DVD compliant MPEG-2 files, will let you fit six of them on
>>a
>>| "4.7Gb" DVD.
>>|
>>| You can also author DivX Ultra, check out this:
>>| http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
>>|
>>| www.videohelp.com www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org
>>|
>>| are good sources for the process and tools involved.
>>|
>>| Luck;
>>| Ken
>>|
>>|
>>Ken,
>>
>>Thanks I have a lot of reading to do!
>>
>>Beemer
>>
>
>
> Beemer.....let me jump in here with
> a couple quick comments.
>
> First....Ken knows what he's talking about. He's never
> steered me.
>
> Second....ConvertXtoDVD is a wonderful program for folks
> who don't want to bother with the nitty-gritty of DVD design.
> It will
> take ANY format file you hand it and burn a Pal OR NTSC
> compatible
> DVD.
>
> Thngs to be aware of...
> It doesn't matter what format the INPUT is in, the
> OUTPUT will be as you specify....
>
> Multiple formats (MPG, AVI, etc) can be combined on
> a single DVD...the program does all the conversion for
> you
>
> It has a basic Menu system that works well...not
> fancy, but it does the job.
>
> They have a new release coming out in the Fall which
> will add lots of bells and whistles.
>
> I used to be a DVD Authoring person but I've found
> the AVI format and I like it for its small size and,
> in 90% of the cases, super quality. Finding
> ConvertXtoDVD to burn the AVI's was a big
> saving grace.
>
> In short...stick with ConvertXtoDVD....it's a great
> program.
>
> ask

I've converted many MPEG captures to xvid/mp3 or ac3, may I ask
why you would ever then convert xvids to DVD? I'd suspect that
converting the original MPEG2 capture to DVD would produce far
better quality.

Admittedly, I don't often produce DVDs from captures, so I'm
truly interested in why you'd take what seems to me to be so
circuitous and quality diminishing a route?

Mind you, I'm a convertx user as well - when a neighbor wants to
see a program I'd normally capture and they could not, for
whatever reason. But I'd never use it for personal viewing of
captures I can already play without the time required to
convert.

Beside which, I seem to recall that it's output reveals
interlace artifacts on my digital displays - which is not a
problem for my neighbors' CRTs.

"Bill's News" <billsnews@pcmagic.net> wrote in message
news:46b8f496$0$4734$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
|
| <ask> wrote in message
| news:dlveb3tdccnpnhprttd7hcavkkjtp4i0q8@4ax.com...
| > On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:32:01 GMT, "Beemer"
| > <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote:
| >
| >>
| >>"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
| >>news:ZsWdnQ7-jfM26S7bnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
| >>|
| >>| "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| >>| news:FsJsi.198$cw7.153@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
| >>| >
| >>| > "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
| >>| > news:PrOdnY8vqvSoyi7bnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@giganews.com ...
| >>| > |
| >>| > | "Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| >>| > | news:kHGsi.103$cw7.12@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
| >>| > | > What should I do to DVD author downloaded avi which
| >>were divx ro
| >>xvid
| >>| > | > encoded. My Sony player does not play divx or xvid
| >>encoded files.
| >>| > | >
| >>| > | > Beemer
| >>| > | >
| >>| > |
| >>| > | You are posting this to "alt.video.dvd.authoring", it
| >>looks
| >>| > | like you know the main part. Now all you need is to
| >>turn
| >>| > | that XviD or DivX into DVD compatible MPEG, that an
| >>| > | authoring program can use. Then most any authoring
| >>| > | program will do.
| >>| > |
| >>| > | You might want to check this one out, though:
| >>| > | http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
| >>| > | while they do a lot of talking about the program's
| >>| > | ability to create DVD like DivX Ultra disks, it looks
| >>| > | like they will accept DivX as input for a regular DVD,
| >>| > | as well.
| >>| > |
| >>| > | You can find listings of MPEG Encoders and DVD
| >>| > | Authoring programs at www.videohelp.com
| >>| > |
| >>| > | Luck;
| >>| > | Ken
| >>| > |
| >>| > |
| >>| > Ken,
| >>| >
| >>| > I am familiar with several software conversion programs
| >>and all was/is
| >>| > well
| >>| > when viewing the resulting DVD on my computer. It is when
| >>I use my
| >>| > standalone DVD player (PAL/NTSC) that I frequently get
| >>"cannot play this
| >>| > disk". Now as the Sony only provides this message I
| >>cannot tell
| >>whether
| >>| > it
| >>| > is because the DVD has been made with 29fps instead of
| >>25fps. On the
| >>| > other
| >>| > hand as the Sony is PAL/NTSC does this automatically mean
| >>that any
| >>region
| >>| > free DVD at 29fps should play in it or does it mean that
| >>it must be a
| >>| > 25fps
| >>| > NTSC DVD?
| >>| >
| >>| > I use Convertxtodvd which asks whether I want
| >>auto/pal/ntsc before
| >>| > converting. However it does not indicate whether it will
| >>convert a
| >>| > 29fpsavi
| >>| > to 25fps in the same process.
| >>| >
| >>| > It was after considering the above I realised that I am
| >>ignorant about
| >>the
| >>| > relationship between DIVX compression and the DVD file
| >>format. In
| >>other
| >>| > words once a DVD is made does DIVX have no relevance?
| >>| >
| >>| > Beemer
| >>| >
| >>|
| >>| I can't help with "Convert to DVD" programs.
| >>|
| >>| Basics:
| >>|
| >>| AVI is a container definition, avi files could mean
| >>anything,
| >>| "how many will fit" depends on their compression and what
| >>| they actually are.
| >>|
| >>| A normal video DVD is made of MPEG-2 video.
| >>|
| >>| MPEG-4 video, including DivX, can compress video at a
| >>| set quality to a smaller file size than can MPEG-2.
| >>|
| >>| Video that is compressed for download over the Internet
| >>| and then transcoded to a less compressed format will suffer
| >>| some quality impact. It will also become a much larger file
| >>| in the less compressed format.
| >>|
| >>| DVD compatible MPEG is less compressed than DivX
| >>| or XviD downloads.
| >>|
| >>| The best conversion of highly compressed video into DVD
| >>| compatible video, that retains as much quality as possible,
| >>| will result in a much larger MPEG-2 file/VOB.
| >>|
| >>| Transcoding the DivX to MPEG-2, at the same
| >>| compression ratio, (and therefor same file size) is
| >>possible -
| >>| but the video will be practically unviewable.
| >>|
| >>| Any program that "Converts", "Burns", or makes a DVD
| >>| from "AVIs" is transcoding the video.
| >>|
| >>| The traditional, and most controllable, way to transcode is
| >>| with an Encoder. For DVD that would be a MPEG Encoder.
| >>|
| >>| Transcoding takes time, to squeak out the best possible
| >>| quality can take a whole lot of time.
| >>|
| >>| The traditional, and most controllable, way to create a
| >>DVD,
| >>| from the DVD compatible MPEG-2, is to use a DVD
| >>| Authoring program.
| >>|
| >>| There are programs that "Convert to DVD", if you can't be
| >>| bothered to learn the process and how to manipulate it, then
| >>| use one of those.
| >>|
| >>| --------------------------
| >>|
| >>| Now transcoding your 350Mb DivX files into 700-730Mb
| >>| DVD compliant MPEG-2 files, will let you fit six of them on
| >>a
| >>| "4.7Gb" DVD.
| >>|
| >>| You can also author DivX Ultra, check out this:
| >>| http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html
| >>|
| >>| www.videohelp.com www.afterdawn.com www.doom9.org
| >>|
| >>| are good sources for the process and tools involved.
| >>|
| >>| Luck;
| >>| Ken
| >>|
| >>|
| >>Ken,
| >>
| >>Thanks I have a lot of reading to do!
| >>
| >>Beemer
| >>
| >
| >
| > Beemer.....let me jump in here with
| > a couple quick comments.
| >
| > First....Ken knows what he's talking about. He's never
| > steered me.
| >
| > Second....ConvertXtoDVD is a wonderful program for folks
| > who don't want to bother with the nitty-gritty of DVD design.
| > It will
| > take ANY format file you hand it and burn a Pal OR NTSC
| > compatible
| > DVD.
| >
| > Thngs to be aware of...
| > It doesn't matter what format the INPUT is in, the
| > OUTPUT will be as you specify....
| >
| > Multiple formats (MPG, AVI, etc) can be combined on
| > a single DVD...the program does all the conversion for
| > you
| >
| > It has a basic Menu system that works well...not
| > fancy, but it does the job.
| >
| > They have a new release coming out in the Fall which
| > will add lots of bells and whistles.
| >
| > I used to be a DVD Authoring person but I've found
| > the AVI format and I like it for its small size and,
| > in 90% of the cases, super quality. Finding
| > ConvertXtoDVD to burn the AVI's was a big
| > saving grace.
| >
| > In short...stick with ConvertXtoDVD....it's a great
| > program.
| >
| > ask
|
| I've converted many MPEG captures to xvid/mp3 or ac3, may I ask
| why you would ever then convert xvids to DVD? I'd suspect that
| converting the original MPEG2 capture to DVD would produce far
| better quality.
|
| Admittedly, I don't often produce DVDs from captures, so I'm
| truly interested in why you'd take what seems to me to be so
| circuitous and quality diminishing a route?
|
| Mind you, I'm a convertx user as well - when a neighbor wants to
| see a program I'd normally capture and they could not, for
| whatever reason. But I'd never use it for personal viewing of
| captures I can already play without the time required to
| convert.
|
| Beside which, I seem to recall that it's output reveals
| interlace artifacts on my digital displays - which is not a
| problem for my neighbors' CRTs.
|

I am downloading avi from the internet. My standalone Sony DVD player
cannot play avi files which have been dix or xvid encoded.

Beemer

"Beemer" <Beemer@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:hzkui.3041$cw7.590@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
>
<snip>
>
> I am downloading avi from the internet. My standalone Sony
> DVD player
> cannot play avi files which have been dix or xvid encoded.
>
>

Some alternative solutions which will spare you the conversion
time and associated quality loss:

a) most obvious, purchase a DVD player which does handle
divx/xvid encoded files. This can be no more expensive than
purchasing conversion software.

Be aware though that other encoding schemes are becoming popular
and may be essential in the near future of HD viewing, so
consider this low priced, least time required, and far better
alternative

b) connect a PC to your TV, preferably via DVI (the new HDMI
card/s is/are for missionaries). This may mean acquiring a new
dual-port graphics card, but this is also inexpensive - assuming
you'll not be gaming with it as well.

Neither of these suggestions will lead to producing a "play
anywhere" DVD, but neither rules it out.